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Cali Dheere and reer diini relations

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cali dheere is always close to ilmo diini. siba reer sheik samatar that raised ugaas diini and oo marexaan ka celiyay when they wanted to take away ugaasnimada from ugaas diini when his father ugaas farax died, ugaas diini was a young kid at the time of ugaas farax death.

ugaas diini was looked after by sheik samatar of cali dheere

Ugaas farax was jealous of his son ugaas diini, when a sixirolowe told him your son will be greater then you, ugaas farax got jealouse and asked the sixirloowe what to do, the whiich the sixirlow said, when your sons is born, put him a empty milk barrel

so when ugaas diini was born, ugaas farax took his son straight from his mother womb and but him straight in to milk barrel not knowing the night before the barrel was filled with milk and he dipped him unwillingly in a full milk barrel that was a sign to marexaan, that ugaas diini is blessed.and ugaas diini became greater then his father.

nobody remembers ugaas farax but somaliwayn knows ugaas diini infact every boqortoyo somaliyeed wanted to give a doughter to ugaas diini so if you look at ilmo diini all their mothers are from saldanado caan ah, xawdale abgaal and ogadeen..

cali dheer killed ugaaska makahiil who killed a cali dhere guy and the guys son killed the ugaas(makahil muuse qumadle) and ogadeen dhan ba ku so duulay celidheere in wardheere and cali dheere fled to xeero ilmo diini on their way to ilmo diini not knowing reer diini mobolised and met celi dheere half way and defeated ogadeen.
thats when laga gabayay ee ilmo diini dexeen, ugaas la dilay wa wa xun mag aan ogadeen siino, neef oo ari aan siino loool

until this day muuse qumadle hate marexaan like no other clan in somalia while ismaciil qumadle love marexan, the
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i bet you guhaad is muuse qumadle
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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:36 am Put down the bottle
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Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:36 am Put down the bottle
Lol, I don't know about the historicity of any of this but like everything else he writes, I found it fascinating. :up: :lol:
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Voltage wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:40 am
Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:36 am Put down the bottle
Lol, I don't know about the historicity of any of this but like everything else he writes, I found it fascinating. :up: :lol:
horta voltage laftee ba aheed lafta reer siyaad jinka uu qabilsaan
waxaan maqlay laftaas waxay dhalaan curyaan iyo kids with birth defects.

it was abe yoonis geri koombe oo marexaan ku daray yaxye iyo moorif and marexaan laf reer siyaad bu uu hiil saray.
laking marexaan broke the agreement between between abe yoonis and marexaan, there was a issue and dont know what happend but that started souring relations between geri and marexaan

Ugaas diini waxa dhalay abe yonis geri koombe


gabdhan reer kooshing ana masuul ka ah, Smile :rose: shuukanshiga tolnimada wax ka ficaan ma jire indr so gilgilo :D
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Typhoon,

My laf of reer Siyaad contains sanka ceel baxay iyo sagaalo irmaan, Ilaawe xilaqooq!

I am reer Abdille Mohamed Siyaad Diini Faarax Ugaas, the same family as Isaaq Biixi, Nuur Bidaar, Shareeco, etc.

The running joke in reer Siyaad is when Maxamed was born Siyaad said gaal hadaan dhalay Maxamed baan dhalay. The first reer Maxamed Siyaad to pray was in 1994 when Al Itihad came. One of my great-uncles was infamous in Mudug for saying, when he saw Marehan praying, "choy meeshaad futada u jeediseen sow ilaahay idin kama jiro" :lol:
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“Not knowing reer diini mobolised and met celi dheere half way and defeated ogadeen” kkkkkkk pretty sure that was during Cali Kaar’s era.

But you got the history wrong !
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Voltage wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:40 am
Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:36 am Put down the bottle
Lol, I don't know about the historicity of any of this but like everything else he writes, I found it fascinating. :up: :lol:
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A king trying to kill his own son to avert a prophecy. Sounds like Greek mythology. How come I have never heard of this before? :lol:
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Turbulence wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:08 am A king trying to kill his own son to avert a prophecy. Sounds like Greek mythology. How come I have never heard of this before? :lol:
he didnt want to kill him, he just didnt want him to upstage him or take away ugasnimada, the sixirolee ba ka waalay, the old man was highly superstitious.

in the old days saldanada wa lay isku dili jiray, wiil iyo abahiis iyo wiil iyo adeerkiss

reer diini wax ka saldanad jecel ma jiro, we are all scheming to sit on the throne, thats why the rest of ilmo diini look at bah xawadle as usurpers.

at the death of ugaas diini, ugaas sharmake was not even pressent, when ugaas diinis favouret son nuur, his favorite son due this his religious nature was about to be crowned because nuur was the guy that placed ugaas diini in the grave and ugaas diini named nuur as his successor, siyaad ran off and told sharmake to come bck and told him what was about to happen and so did sharmake become king with his younger brother siyaads help.
reer ugaas sharmake dont like that story but marexaan-wayne know that story hence why marexaan uu jecelyahin bah darandoole and are indifferent :D to bah xawadle
thats why reer siyaad is the most hated clan among the marexaan because they are bulwark against isbadal doonka haqka ku salaysan

if was not for siyaad through the ages the rest of ilmo diini way ka qaadan lahayn saldana sharmake (couple coupes actually hapend :D )

on the blessed sheik samatar (AUN)
sheik samatar of ali dheere raised ugaas diini because sheik samatar was the most respected man among the marexaan at that time.
sheik samatar loved ugaas diini.
one day ugaas diini was sleeping under a tree and sheik samatar came and placed his foot on the cheek of ugaas diini, to which ugaas diini said,"cagta qabooba, ma cagti sheik samatar ba," confirming what sheik samatar always believed that ugaas diini wa qof dulqaad badan hoogaanka marexaan uu qalma, so on that day ugaas diini was ready to be crowned and marexaan kama dhabo hadlin jirin sheik samatar.
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Turbulence wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:08 am A king trying to kill his own son to avert a prophecy. Sounds like Greek mythology. How come I have never heard of this before? :lol:
It's fake, but the Muuse Gumcadle (Makaahiil/Ogaadeen) thing may be true. My grandpa (dad's dad) told me they (as in Bah-Xawaadle of reer Diini in Qalqalooc and Ulasan) raided Muuse Gumcadle more than they did Hawiye to the east.

Hawiye (especially Cayr and Xawaadle) used to fear them because they were ruthless to them but nimankaan Ogaadeen Daarood ahaan baa looga xishoon jiray until things got out of hand). At least three times a week baa lagu duuli jiray to teach them a lesson and when my grandpa was born the Muuse Gumcadle chief was slain.

He literally verbatim told me, to this day (this was a decade ago before his death), no one hates us more than Muuse Gumcadle.

When the Muuse Gumcadle chief was slain, all of Makaahiil moved in a fortnight away from ceelasha Qalqalooc iyo Ulasan up further north to Wal Waal and bah-Gari moved in to neighbor bah-Xawaadle/reer Diini in Qalqalooc and Ulasan south of Shilaabo
which he said made them be very considerate to them because Sayidka was Bah Geri. Ilahaay amarkiis they did not disappoint as bah-Gari turned out to be their best friends and peace partners. My grandpa said bah-Xawaadle/reer Diini had more hostilities with bah-Ogaadeen/reer Diini than they did with bah-Geri/Ogaadeen. :lol:

My grandpa said bah Geri never for a day had hostilities with us, but they and Xawaadle hated each other because of bah-Geri's raids. Bah Geri is why Xawaadle hated Ogaadeen so much they committed those massacres against Ogaadeen refugees in Beled-Weyne in 1991.
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Typhoon wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:12 am the death of ugaas diini, ugaas sharmake was not even pressent, when ugaas diinis favouret son nuur, his favorite son due this his religious nature was about to be crowned because nuur was the guy that placed ugaas diini in the grave and ugaas diini named nuur as his successor, siyaad ran off and told sharmake to come bck and told him what was about to happen and so did sharmake become king with his younger brother siyaads help.
reer ugaas sharmake dont like that story but marexaan-wayne know that story hence why marexaan uu jecelyahin bah darandoole and are indifferent :D to bah xawadle
thats why reer siyaad is the most hated clan among the marexaan because they are bulwark against isbadal doonka haqka ku salaysan

if was not for siyaad through the ages the rest of ilmo diini way ka qaadan lahayn saldana sharmake (couple coupes actually hapend :D )
:lol:

You know it is weird, but it is true reer Siyaad IS the most resented clan in Marehan by other Marehans. :lol:

I remember I was 17 asking why this was so and my mom's sister was like because "waad xin badan tihiin" to which my dad who came in that night responded "Habar Ciise karin lay" (worthless Habar Ciise). Ironically my aunt owned/still owns the house two doors down across the street and her husband was also reer Siyaad (my cousins from her are reer Cabdille Siyaad and I am reer Maxamed Siyaad). He is very close to Murax because his mom is reer Ugaas and he flew to Virginia to be with his abti Ciise Ugaas Cabdulle when he was hospitalized there couple years ago before he died.

Reer Siyaad aad bay u xin badanyihiin apparently as my mom later confirmed but I am on one side a liberal American dude and on the other a Habar Ciise guy by emotional connection from my mom. My dad hates it but grudgingly admits the truth when I count how much guluf colaadeed reer Siyaad has brought within and outside of to Marehan. :mrgreen:
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Hasha ileen marehanka dhan baa reer siyaadka ka soo bodeen. My mom said they are xaasidiin and petty :ugeek:
Her favorite laf besides reer koshin is reer dalal. She said the reer dalals are hot tempered but they are “gacal”
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Typhoon wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 2:12 am
Turbulence wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:08 am A king trying to kill his own son to avert a prophecy. Sounds like Greek mythology. How come I have never heard of this before? :lol:
he didnt want to kill him, he just didnt want him to upstage him or take away ugasnimada, the sixirolee ba ka waalay, the old man was highly superstitious.

in the old days saldanada wa lay isku dili jiray, wiil iyo abahiis iyo wiil iyo adeerkiss

reer diini wax ka saldanad jecel ma jiro, we are all scheming to sit on the throne, thats why the rest of ilmo diini look at bah xawadle as usurpers.

at the death of ugaas diini, ugaas sharmake was not even pressent, when ugaas diinis favouret son nuur, his favorite son due this his religious nature was about to be crowned because nuur was the guy that placed ugaas diini in the grave and ugaas diini named nuur as his successor, siyaad ran off and told sharmake to come bck and told him what was about to happen and so did sharmake become king with his younger brother siyaads help.
reer ugaas sharmake dont like that story but marexaan-wayne know that story hence why marexaan uu jecelyahin bah darandoole and are indifferent :D to bah xawadle
thats why reer siyaad is the most hated clan among the marexaan because they are bulwark against isbadal doonka haqka ku salaysan

if was not for siyaad through the ages the rest of ilmo diini way ka qaadan lahayn saldana sharmake (couple coupes actually hapend :D )

on the blessed sheik samatar (AUN)
sheik samatar of ali dheere raised ugaas diini because sheik samatar was the most respected man among the marexaan at that time.
sheik samatar loved ugaas diini.
one day ugaas diini was sleeping under a tree and sheik samatar came and placed his foot on the cheek of ugaas diini, to which ugaas diini said,"cagta qabooba, ma cagti sheik samatar ba," confirming what sheik samatar always believed that ugaas diini wa qof dulqaad badan hoogaanka marexaan uu qalma, so on that day ugaas diini was ready to be crowned and marexaan kama dhabo hadlin jirin sheik samatar.
I didn't know you were reer diini. What are you after reer diini? I am guessing reer dalal? Anyway this Samatar individual. Is that the progenitor of the reer Samatar subclan of Reer Sheikh? Also wasn't there Khalaf who was the rightful heir to the ugaasnimo?
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