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That's the Aby ahmed new party to lead his nation. Also all the other parties of former eplf has been invited to join. Onlf kuma jirto. Interesting
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You don’t much about DDS, your post shows it.

The reason ONLF is not part of the Barwaqo party is because the other main Somali party, XDS, is part of it.

ONLF is in dangerous path of being isolated, you just watch. This is same group that supposedly joined forces with SRDA, predominantly Ciise party, to form SCP, yet they are intoxicated with tribal name. How disingenuous is that.
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Jabutiwi, I do follow Ethiopian politics as I'm interested in hawd and reserve area of DSsI. And as far as I can see somali state party with ahmed shide leading is in the new ruling coalition. I'm not for the onfl with their tribL name but I'm see their left out in the cold after 30 sano oo dagaal .
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cheifaqilbari wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:25 pm Jabutiwi, I do follow Ethiopian politics as I'm interested in hawd and reserve area of DSsI. And as far as I can see somali state party with ahmed shide leading is in the new ruling coalition. I'm not for the onfl with their tribL name but I'm see their left out in the cold after 30 sano oo dagaal .
Hawd is reserve area.Also That region is not predominatly Isaaq region so please dont make it look as if its an exclusive Isaq region.

Secondly the game of thrones in Ethiopia is not limited to ONLF.
Oromos are split into 3 factions as of today.

Abye the ex spy called for rebrand8ng of EPRDF to Prosperity party.Lemma Magarsa made a u turn and does not support themerger check my l8nk above.
We also have Jawar Mohamed who wants to conyend for the PM seat.So thr three main players have split.Lemma and Jawar are the King makers of Oromo abye was a TPLF spy an Old guard.


Also TPLF has refused to join Prosperity party as they will.be out numbered.


For somali region Cagjar is not that popular like ONLF.Even Shide was jumping the ship when elections happen.
The main Issa party is in alliance with ONLF as well as the Garreh people in the region.

Cagjar is very unpopular and ONLF will win the elections if there is no rigging.

As for Isaaq you folks are divided too I do believe it was wrong for Cagjar to give HA ministerial job as Garxajis outnumber them several times.
Cagjar gave positions to HA because of his wife.Seems like HA offer women to get influence.

So Ethiopia is on a cross road.
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This new party is set up made by Neftenya Amharas to bring back the centralist government.
ONLF (somali), OLF ( oromo), TPLF (tigre) and others are not included.
On one hand this party is destined to minimise the Tigre power (i agree on this), on the other hand, it is bringing back the "centralist" government dreamed by Amharas.

Jawar Mohamed, and Lemma Megersa (defence minister) both Oromo, are sceptical about it.
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It's seems abi ahmed like countless other educated oromos is ithiopian first and Amharas mentally. Abiyot ahmed just like meles zenawi played the game very well and alot of the onlf supporters and ormos naively were fooled by his smart words. The more Ethiopia changed the more it stays the same. Abi ahmed is like antifederalsm.
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cheifaqilbari wrote: Sun Dec 01, 2019 7:47 am It's seems abi ahmed like countless other educated oromos is ithiopian first and Amharas mentally. Abiyot ahmed just like meles zenawi played the game very well and alot of the onlf supporters and ormos naively were fooled by his smart words. The more Ethiopia changed the more it stays the same. Abi ahmed is like antifederalsm.

Lema Magarsa has been minister of finance for a while and that he has created enough network within the mimitary,If he joins with Jawar Abye is finished.
Ethiopia politics is complicated.
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Django wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:49 pm
cheifaqilbari wrote: Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:25 pm Jabutiwi, I do follow Ethiopian politics as I'm interested in hawd and reserve area of DSsI. And as far as I can see somali state party with ahmed shide leading is in the new ruling coalition. I'm not for the onfl with their tribL name but I'm see their left out in the cold after 30 sano oo dagaal .
Hawd is reserve area.Also That region is not predominatly Isaaq region so please dont make it look as if its an exclusive Isaq region.

Secondly the game of thrones in Ethiopia is not limited to ONLF.
Oromos are split into 3 factions as of today.

Abye the ex spy called for rebrand8ng of EPRDF to Prosperity party.Lemma Magarsa made a u turn and does not support themerger check my l8nk above.
We also have Jawar Mohamed who wants to conyend for the PM seat.So thr three main players have split.Lemma and Jawar are the King makers of Oromo abye was a TPLF spy an Old guard.


Also TPLF has refused to join Prosperity party as they will.be out numbered.


For somali region Cagjar is not that popular like ONLF.Even Shide was jumping the ship when elections happen.
The main Issa party is in alliance with ONLF as well as the Garreh people in the region.

Cagjar is very unpopular and ONLF will win the elections if there is no rigging.

As for Isaaq you folks are divided too I do believe it was wrong for Cagjar to give HA ministerial job as Garxajis outnumber them several times.
Cagjar gave positions to HA because of his wife.Seems like HA offer women to get influence.

So Ethiopia is on a cross road.
Hawd and reserve area is totally isaaq. Don’t come with your munafiq xaar HA have wajaale harta sheekh and xarshin. We are the largest clan in faafan and control the economy of jigjiga wax baryo maha. We have always had these positions and and even ddsi President. We created the damn xisbi that rules you. Weliba gudiga fulintaan ku jirna. Intaad garxajis waxay ku lahayeen gobolka jarar oo ay 60 % ka yaheen aad ka so dacdeen markas baad is leedahay isaaq isku dir. nacas sida kalil oo kale baa ka rumaysan oo aflogaado iyo dhabodilifnimo la iman. Berigi uu cagjar uu badeedey ahmed shide oo an ka dicinay Oo Ogaden oo dan barooranayasay so kuwi garxajis laha ma ku jirno shirka direed oo shirka somaliyeed ee goday baan tagayna. Oo somay farah macalim iyo Ogaden Ila Kenya ka yimid tog wajaale oo dhulkaaga ah kugu so dowaayn sidaad tahay ajanabi. Xagay ku dambaysay? Waxay ku dambaysay in cagjar jilibka uu laabo ahmed shide garxajis na waxba kamay fa’idin.

Ninka kale oo ka calaacalayay waa ninkaan djibouti lagu gumeysto. Waxay na ku so gebo gebowday inu ONLF ka calaacalo. Shirka direed part 2 ba la bilabaya. Oo xisbi baa lagu dawaqaya. Everyone who knows about dds politics knows it’s the xisbi that will win.

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Look at the poor Somalis fighting for already done deal. The EPP's creation was to destroy federalism. This is the first phase, all mercenaries joined the EPP. The other parties have slim chance of winning the election. The question is how would the "oromo nationalist" react when the real agenda of this party come to surface?
Somalis have already annexed by this party. They joined it but they don't have much representations. The old Ethiopia is coming back.
It won't matter where your clan resides, it will be "shiritaam shiritaamnow" meaning sarong-wearers are the same, ama macawisle waa macawisle uun.
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Hawd is not predominantly Isaaq go take your lies somewhere else.

Habar awal are not significant in the region But Garjaxis are.
HA are mostly traders in the region Harta sheikh was a refugee camp during the 80s and when it was closed down in the mid 9os when the refugee camps were dismantled.

You arent any majority Jidqwaaq,Gadabursi,Jarso and Geri are more than you folks.

The thing is you folks like rigging elections you will recruit oromos to vote for you in Harta sheikh the same as you folks do in Somaliland.
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A lot of us Oromo nationalists are suspicious about the true intentions of this party; but 2 positive things so far are 1) it's inclusive of traditionally marginalized groups i.e. somalis, afars, hararis and those from gambella.
2) it eradicates tplfs presence and isolates and weakens then even more.

Like it or not... If you want to win elections fair anf square you need to have a national appeal not just an appeal to your ethnicity... This is what PM Abiy sees as his key to winning. I see him ruling for at least another decade, for better or worse. But I also forsee the OLF led by Dawud winning a lot of seats. We shall see. The alternatives are worse, civil unrest, oromo revolution 2.0 and etc.
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Waachis wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:02 pm A lot of us Oromo nationalists are suspicious about the true intentions of this party; but 2 positive things so far are 1) it's inclusive of traditionally marginalized groups i.e. somalis, afars, hararis and those from gambella.
2) it eradicates tplfs presence and isolates and weakens then even more.

Like it or not... If you want to win elections fair anf square you need to have a national appeal not just an appeal to your ethnicity... This is what PM Abiy sees as his key to winning. I see him ruling for at least another decade, for better or worse. But I also forsee the OLF led by Dawud winning a lot of seats. We shall see. The alternatives are worse, civil unrest, oromo revolution 2.0 and etc.
Your boy abiye is finished. He will have to get his hands dirty like mengistu or he will be killed himself. You cannot hold ethiopia together democratically. We are going to flood the border will guns and ammo.
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AwBarkhadle wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:15 pm
Waachis wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:02 pm A lot of us Oromo nationalists are suspicious about the true intentions of this party; but 2 positive things so far are 1) it's inclusive of traditionally marginalized groups i.e. somalis, afars, hararis and those from gambella.
2) it eradicates tplfs presence and isolates and weakens then even more.

Like it or not... If you want to win elections fair anf square you need to have a national appeal not just an appeal to your ethnicity... This is what PM Abiy sees as his key to winning. I see him ruling for at least another decade, for better or worse. But I also forsee the OLF led by Dawud winning a lot of seats. We shall see. The alternatives are worse, civil unrest, oromo revolution 2.0 and etc.
Your boy abiye is finished. He will have to get his hands dirty like mengistu or he will be killed himself. You cannot hold ethiopia together democratically. We are going to flood the border will guns and ammo.
We shall see. Don't forget.. If abiy doesn't get on the bad side of oromos he can rule for the next century. If not; oromos will be his downfall, not Somalis or anyone else.
As far as guns and ammo go, whom do you plan to arm? Somalis? Then what, pit them against one of Africa's strongest armies? If so, will you be there to help them fight or will you enjoy comfort somewhere in America, Europe, etc...?
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Abye is oromo on the outside and Amhara on the inside.

Oromos have 4 factions.
1.OLF
2.Abye
3.Lemma.Magarsa
4.Jawar Mohamed

Abye is Amhara.

Waachis you guys have your own problems.
You think you hit the jackpot bit it seems 1991 came back again.
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