How long you think Farmaajo and Kheyre will stick together?

[sahal80]

as the presidential elections draw closer and both of them are candidates it's impossible to stick together till Farmaajo term ends so how long you think? one of my HIIGSI&HORUMAR Sources told me that Kheyre will officially separate himself from Farmaajo in april next year when he will declare his candidacy

but for me that is too long i think alot of events are going to separate them from each other before they reach that stage

one of these events are the position from JL. Kheyre wants to use the gaaljecel and sheekhals "as his Hawiye
constituency" and we may see mp jeesow going with him to Kismaayo in this way he wants to get pro kheyre mps even if jeesow is from hiiraan his clan live in JL too like doqon diid and ahmed adan. former gaaljecel minister was doqondiid
https://goobjoog.com/wasiirka-petroolka ... yay-musuq/

this is why jeesow is now pro kheyre and became against Farmaajo like khadiijo diiriye. today jeesow has released a new video against madoobe return to Kismaayo all this is gorgorton.

also one very anti-Farmaajo gaaljecel guy has now became pro kheyre!!

Either Kheyre or Farmaajo will be saacid or hassan sheekh yet in another agreement with the same man!

2-second khilaaf will be about the finance minister/ the bank, the ports (who manages the resources) the one who controls them will be able to buy the loyalties within the govt and the parliament

[Mk777]

Personally I prefer farmaajo as a Somali and also from my beeshas interests. Farmajo is pro gaaljecel I’m not sure about kheyre.

The reason I support farmajo Is I believe the JL initiative is broken from top to bottom. We can see madoobe is losing his grip on gedo and with non Kenyan backing he can expand into the jubas. The Khilaaf is an opportunity to rearrange the power structure were MX andOG have 50+ mp. We need minimum of 10 mps coming from JL as to the 3 we currently have.


There is also assassination campaign against anyone who speaks against madoobe. He is using divide and rule tactics, using fools to assassinate their kin for some lacag

[grandpakhalif]

Personally I prefer farmaajo as a Somali and also from my beeshas interests. Farmajo is pro gaaljecel I’m not sure about kheyre.

The reason I support farmajo Is I believe the JL initiative is broken from top to bottom. We can see madoobe is losing his grip on gedo and with non Kenyan backing he can expand into the jubas. The Khilaaf is an opportunity to rearrange the power structure were MX andOG have 50+ mp. We need minimum of 10 mps coming from JL as to the 3 we currently have.


There is also assassination campaign against anyone who speaks against madoobe. He is using divide and rule tactics, using fools to assassinate their kin for some lacag

Yup Beesha Gaaljecel fully support Farmaajo, MK can you tell us about General Cagey? The recent killing of him by HG mooryaan is deeply disturbing.

[Somaliweeyn007]

Kheyre seems to loyal, people have been saying he will leave since day 1.

[sahal80]

Personally I prefer farmaajo as a Somali and also from my beeshas interests. Farmajo is pro gaaljecel I’m not sure about kheyre.

The reason I support farmajo Is I believe the JL initiative is broken from top to bottom. We can see madoobe is losing his grip on gedo and with non Kenyan backing he can expand into the jubas. The Khilaaf is an opportunity to rearrange the power structure were MX andOG have 50+ mp. We need minimum of 10 mps coming from JL as to the 3 we currently have.


There is also assassination campaign against anyone who speaks against madoobe. He is using divide and rule tactics, using fools to assassinate their kin for some lacag

Kheyre is very smart guy who makes you to like him involuntary right now there is rapprochement and on going communications between him and Madasha mucaaradka against Farmaajo positions and the other hand he tries to secure his HAG position incase Farmaajo tries to reach out to them once he starts to deal with JL. last time when kheyre gone to Kismaayo jeesow became against him but now im hearing that he told him that they r in his agenda.

[Sagaashan]

I don't think any one is disputing they will finish their terms together, after all they have a lot in the pipeline that can be claimed by both if they go their separate ways: debt relief, the maritime case, newly built and renovation projects, etc. And I don't think it will be a messy divorce as you predict. The lines and teams will be clearer but no infighting or motions. A lot of this will hinge on the election law and how it is framed. Some opposition members proposed that the law include party and merged parties as ones that can run together meaning that even if they form two parties they can still have mutual interests and cooperation.

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

So the guy on Facebook didn’t share with you some fresh xan today

Stay pressed hater

[sahal80]

I don't think any one is disputing they will finish their terms together, after all they have a lot in the pipeline that can be claimed by both if they go their separate ways: debt relief, the maritime case, newly built and renovation projects, etc. And I don't think it will be a messy divorce as you predict. The lines and teams will be clearer but no infighting or motions. A lot of this will hinge on the election law and how it is framed. Some opposition members proposed that the law include party and merged parties as ones that can run together meaning that even if they form two parties they can still have mutual interests and cooperation.

Good points. firstly i doubt the IC will accept this bc there is no time for a new govt you know it will take 3 months until the president picks a new pm and cabinet gets approved. president has two months and pm one month specially if this divorce happens it will happen by the next spring 10 months before the election time. what i mean is getting separated but not divorced like each one having his own allies. Kheyre will come out of his shell and gonna have a field day as he is no more under the motion threat. his wife is isaaq so he recruited his current pm deputy . Farmaajo is recruiting ex pro HAG fozio haji who was married to a HG general you know what happens in their region reflects on Xamar.

Kheyre has recruited most officials specially non hiraab hawiyes, eelaays, minorities.

As PL and JL going to cime back to the political scene waare has gone to baidoa for consultation with lafta gareen. waare wants to escape from N&N and act independently so he needs coalition but they r also saying Kheyre is behind this we will see soon im following this news.

[Sagaashan]

Sahal you are a veteran of Somali politics, this will ultimately come down to qabiil and money. And con artist Kheyre doesn't have either of those. The problem here its Khadija "Visa" Diiriye that is misleading the young man. Her strategy is already clear. While you associate Farmaajo with IDPs, marginalized communities, its is Khadija "Visa" Diiriye who openly boosts about minorities being the majority members of parliament. In this she includes all the .5 members as well as other .5 members within major sub-clans (Awrtable, gaaljecel, etc). She sees these as constituents that can help elect Kheyre into office. He seems to have fallen for this trick not knowing that these members can make promises but will ultimately fall prey to the shark with the most money, which is currently Farmaajo. So con artist needs to find a financier for his campaign, it has to be Arab countries bc Europeans don't hand out cash in diplomatic bags.

As far as JL is concerned, there is no way Kheyre can get anything out of that. and its never too late to reach a deal that favors Farmaajo. That is one of his last cards. So far Madoobe is desperate after being rejected by IC, Ethiopia, and Kenya. Any deal to keep him in office, he will take in a second. If it means he secures certain amount of votes for Farmaajo's reelection he will take it in a heartbeat. So farmaajo will have JL, SW state, and half of GM (being generous to con artist), 50% of PL, 50% of Hirshabelle, and small % of SL.

And never underestimate the Burji of Farmaajo that got him 184 mps after HSM paid each mp $50k the night before. It takes a lot of wheeling and dealing to get through and come on top. So Sahal i don't understand why you keep underestimating this guy, he is no fool. I am sure he has proven you wrong many times and will shock you once more.

[sahal80]

Sahal you are a veteran of Somali politics, this will ultimately come down to qabiil and money. And con artist Kheyre doesn't have either of those. The problem here its Khadija "Visa" Diiriye that is misleading the young man. Her strategy is already clear. While you associate Farmaajo with IDPs, marginalized communities, its is Khadija "Visa" Diiriye who openly boosts about minorities being the majority members of parliament. In this she includes all the .5 members as well as other .5 members within major sub-clans (Awrtable, gaaljecel, etc). She sees these as constituents that can help elect Kheyre into office. He seems to have fallen for this trick not knowing that these members can make promises but will ultimately fall prey to the shark with the most money, which is currently Farmaajo. So con artist needs to find a financier for his campaign, it has to be Arab countries bc Europeans don't hand out cash in diplomatic bags.

As far as JL is concerned, there is no way Kheyre can get anything out of that. and its never too late to reach a deal that favors Farmaajo. That is one of his last cards. So far Madoobe is desperate after being rejected by IC, Ethiopia, and Kenya. Any deal to keep him in office, he will take in a second. If it means he secures certain amount of votes for Farmaajo's reelection he will take it in a heartbeat. So farmaajo will have JL, SW state, and half of GM (being generous to con artist), 50% of PL, 50% of Hirshabelle, and small % of SL.

And never underestimate the Burji of Farmaajo that got him 184 mps after HSM paid each mp $50k the night before. It takes a lot of wheeling and dealing to get through and come on top. So Sahal i don't understand why you keep underestimating this guy, he is no fool. I am sure he has proven you wrong many times and will shock you once more.

Kheyre has more money then Farmaajo bc he installed murursade in the ports, used to goe there ecery two weeks once even the donors were against appointing his in-law and friend for the bank. once Farmaajo steals money its done by his wife who mainly controls khaznada banaadir. she builds houses in dubai and nairobi and uses cover organuzations. kheyre now owns dozens of millions some say around $40m. one he got appointed he had over $2 million
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.caas ... dhexe/amp/


Farmaajo HAG ala sheekh base in 2016 has splitted into two; a group who backs kheyre now mainly led by murursade and a group who is party of madasha/UDP

kheyre is more in coalition with the opposition like HG islamists taking over Galmudug, being anti one man one vote and patliament electing the president. in this way it will be between kheyre and the HAG opposition. i doubt Farmaajo will get more than 50 votes in the first round. in the ladt election he had 30 without ala sheekh rest were mx and pro Fahad yasin and ictisam darods.

i predict farmaajo position in the next eoection to be the third like sharif position in the last election. some thing between 45-50 votes.

[Sagaashan]

sxb you are obviously obsessed with Kheyre, just like you were with HSM back in the day. I think your mind is made up and you believe this guy is a political wizard that can't be stopped or toppled. Its my conclusion that you will not stop this level of affection until he is removed or loses the election.

[sahal80]

sxb you are obviously obsessed with Kheyre, just like you were with HSM back in the day. I think your mind is made up and you believe this guy is a political wizard that can't be stopped or toppled. Its my conclusion that you will not stop this level of affection until he is removed or loses the election.

im not pro kheyre, neither i believe he and Farmaajo can win im just stating their obvious "raasumaal"
this group and gacal who is murursade dam jadeed for speaker will make deal with kheyre this is what i mean by rasumal(political capital) 2-he has hirshabelle. he told waare "you not going anywhere you dont need to be reelected there is no time for hirshabelle(supposed to take place in oct 2020) as a result of this, hirshabelle speaker announced changing the dastuur to make the term 5 years like PL. mucaaradka told this to the UN envoy and then waare has retreated officially from this position now duqa orod uu ku jiraa will he still stick with kheyre or act indepent we will see soon. but please tell me what rasumaal farmaajo has? i have been realistic by saying he only has gedo now and maybe lafta gareen. dont ever say hirshabelle or galmudug minus caabudwaq are pro farmaajo. kheyre has hiraab damjadeed saction and ala sheekh has some control on hirshabelle has the cabinet ministers who r all mps(around 70) controls the security in banaadir this is not dheeldheel but i dont think he can win. im not murursade but your probably a mx and that beclouds your judgement.

[Sagaashan]

Sahal, I am not MX, i am just for the truth. Its just dumb to have two people in the same administration with the same record running against each other. It would just be waste of time and ugly. and probably cause both to lose badly. We will have to discuss this in more detail when Kheyre makes that announcement and if that happens it will be the most exciting campaign we ever witness. For instance will Kheyre say "Farmaajo baa Qalbi Dhagax dhiibay" kkkkkkkkkk

[Nomand]

April is in 1 month, lets see if Kheyre announces his own party.

[Murax]

Kheyre seems to loyal, people have been saying he will leave since day 1.

Ahh u mean Sahal. The man that’s been making this prediction, and others since the beginning of time? When he first joined I thought he had info because he said he had ‘sources’. When I Got fed up and clicked on the source I’d see its a Guy on facebook named ‘Abdi Faarax’ with 6 followers, and a suit jacket 6 sizes too big