political mapping of FMS

[sahal80]

baised Mods please dont put it in the clan section this is an informative topic and i want all people to see it.


JL is an OG kingdom. OG affinity to JL resembles the Abgaal affinity to Hirshabelle. While Hawadle is the biggest clan in Hirshabelle followed by Abgaal and then Gaaljecel, The Abgaals populate the adjacent neighbouring Banaadir and Galgaduud regions and they have a stake in Galmudug and own Banaadir. similarly OG live in both middle and lower jubba extending south to NFD or Kenya's north eastern province and Jubaland is perceived as Kenya's buffer zone and that is why its OG Kingdom. when it comes to middle shabelle alot of you r clueless really bc they think its only abgaal land. Abgaals live in the east of the river while hawadle and gaaljecel live in the west of the river up to 30km from balcad at qalimow(see the small isolated red hawadle map south of jowhar) we live in the hinterland west if the river in dhurwayle very close to jowhar more than mahadaay and in buurane on the highway between jowhar and mahaday. the other fact is that jowhar and mahadaay has more jareer population than Abgaal.
Hirshabelle by land hawadle is the biggest followed by abgaal and then gaaljecel this makes Hirshabelle Hawadle kingdom. when it comes to the foreign influence Hawadle borders Ethiopia and we know the role IGAD played in tge formation of this State.



Kismaayo demoghraphics has changed in the last 10 years but i will not say

[Sagax]

In the new Somalia the definition of langaab has changed meaning, as langaabs today mean Qabiils who are Stateless, so if certain clan aint leading a state then they are langaabs looma oyaans who are governed by better clans.

[sahal80]

In the new Somalia the definition of langaab has changed meaning, as langaabs today mean Qabiils who are Stateless, so if certain clan aint leading a state then they are langaabs looma oyaans who are governed by better clans.

i agree with you generally speaking but when you have the capital like the abgaals in Johar it's abit different and they r connected to Banaadir and the federal govt and get projects in their name but the state is hawadle like the cabinet, advisors, gudiyada dawlada. we appoint dozens of deputy ministers who deal with hiiraan directly. if you dont lead and dont have the capital you are truely marginilazed in this state. Galmudug HG got both the president and capital with pm. im hearing now qoorqoor wants to make shaakir some kind of ayatullah.

[dalalos101]

you welcome Mr Caucasian

[Sagax]

In the new Somalia the definition of langaab has changed meaning, as langaabs today mean Qabiils who are Stateless, so if certain clan aint leading a state then they are langaabs looma oyaans who are governed by better clans.

im hearing now qoorqoor wants to make shaakir some kind of ayatullah.

Basically an Mufti of Galmudug.

But isnt Ayatollah an Shia thing?

An ayatollah or ayatullah is a high-ranking Usuli Twelver Shī‘ah cleric. Those who carry the title are experts in Islamic studies such as jurisprudence, Quran reading, and philosophy and usually teach in Islamic seminaries.




Non the less it will be 100% HG State Galmudug, with the President, PM, capital, and now Mufti

GM=HG

[GuleedWarsame]

If you dont lead and dont have the capital you are truely marginilazed in this state. Galmudug HG got both the president and capital with pm. im hearing now qoorqoor wants to make shaakir some kind of ayatullah.

Sahal

If you truly believes this then you must believe MX is marginalized in Jubbaland despite being majority population wise. MX have neither presidency or capital. Only 19 mps was giving to whole of Sade. With that said its not hard to understand why MX are not happy with current set up of Jubbaland

[barbarossa]

In a perfect world, national policy would have been devised and implemented to ensure a robust mechanism is put into place for strengthening and maintaining our age old marginalization of laangaab qabiils. For instance, legislations could be passed that prohibits the looma ooyaans ever owning properties or holding positions in important government offices; or better yet, any Faarax/Xaliimo of looma ooyaan denomination, suspected of aspiring to obtain employment in any field other than, perhaps, isbasiini, should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and treated like a common criminal.

[Ardentte]

This is compleate and utter bullshit. Hirshabelle is formed by two states, Sh/dhexe and Hiiraan. These states have equal share, power and influence. Abgaal is the absolute majority in Middle Shabelle thus they got the capital, VP and the most MPs in that state. Xawaadle are biting more than they can chew you are not even 50% of Hiiraan let alone majority. You are the biggest clan in Hiiraan thats for sure, but not much bigger than Gaaljecel there. Hirshabelle presidency will become rotational thats for sure. You will make gentleman agreement with Gaaljecel or you will be forced to do so like what happened to Sacad in GM. And this is what is best for the future of Hirshabelle.


The difference between Abgaal and Xawaadle is that Abgaal have their state on lock down and are absolute majority there. While you dont even make 50% of yours. If Hirshabelle is a kingdom then Abgaals will be the king makers and shakers of the realm. While the kingship you seek will be a mere figuere head that you will soon have to compeate with Gaaljecel. Middle Shabelle got the capital and VP and Hiiraan got the President and speaker. Nowhere does it say Xawaadle should be the president


Sahal we've been ignoring your xaar but now you have crossed the line, making maps where Xawaadle has stretches of land in Middle Shabelle and quoting some random womans tweet, to prove a non existant point. Kulahaa we dont live on the other side of the river. This isnt early, 1900s anymore abow we live these days all the way to Qoryooley. Warsangeli and Daud have crossed the river all you marked as red at east bank of the river is theirs these days and more.

[Mk777]

Completely fake map
These are more accurate



The villages closest to jowhar that are not inhabited by Jareer are shared by moobleen & Barsane

[XHKS]

baised Mods please dont put it in the clan section this is an informative topic and i want all people to see it.


JL is an OG kingdom. OG affinity to JL resembles the Abgaal affinity to Hirshabelle. While Hawadle is the biggest clan in Hirshabelle followed by Abgaal and then Gaaljecel, The Abgaals populate the adjacent neighbouring Banaadir and Galgaduud regions and they have a stake in Galmudug and own Banaadir. similarly OG live in both middle and lower jubba extending south to NFD or Kenya's north eastern province and Jubaland is perceived as Kenya's buffer zone and that is why its OG Kingdom. when it comes to middle shabelle alot of you r clueless really bc they think its only abgaal land. Abgaals live in the east of the river while hawadle and gaaljecel live in the west of the river up to 30km from balcad at qalimow(see the small isolated red hawadle map south of jowhar) we live in the hinterland west if the river in dhurwayle very close to jowhar more than mahadaay and in buurane on the highway between jowhar and mahaday. the other fact is that jowhar and mahadaay has more jareer population than Abgaal.
Hirshabelle by land hawadle is the biggest followed by abgaal and then gaaljecel this makes Hirshabelle Hawadle kingdom. when it comes to the foreign influence Hawadle borders Ethiopia and we know the role IGAD played in tge formation of this State.



Kismaayo demoghraphics has changed in the last 10 years but i will not say

you read my thread advising mk777 now you brought fake xawadle map
sahal times up, the days of ignoring gaaljecel is over, its between abgaal and gaaljecel now, gaaljecel is very important clan

who do you think used to fund dir against and habar aji ..iidoor gaaljecel, xawadle, jareerwayne and abgaal unity is a must lakin ya lay is xaqarin.

hiraan lost their greatest son cabdulqadir haji masale, xawadle wa lo yaba , only ugaasyada marexaan might save you but saddam is going to punish you

[XHKS]

If you dont lead and dont have the capital you are truely marginilazed in this state. Galmudug HG got both the president and capital with pm. im hearing now qoorqoor wants to make shaakir some kind of ayatullah.

Sahal

If you truly believes this then you must believe MX is marginalized in Jubbaland despite being majority population wise. MX have neither presidency or capital. Only 19 mps was giving to whole of Sade. With that said its not hard to understand why MX are not happy with current set up of Jubbaland

lets see weather OG are majority without col cabaas, fartaag, wasiir janan and maxamuud sayed aden its only barre missing from the marexaan warlord dream team

[Voltage]

No wonder they said Laangaab waa ehlu baar, ilaahay ishaada hanaga duwo

Wallahi that was a joke, but Sahal why is it everytime I read anything you write now it seems like miskiin Voltage bay ishaadu u fuurantahay?

Ever since I opened that topic that showed how you delegitimized yourself over the years (YOU, not I---I simply organized your posts), you literally don't talk about any objective rational political observations.

Literally 99% of your posts are "naa naa boo boo, Marehan you don't have Kismaayo" sometimes even using Kenya's aggression at SOMALIA against us might I add. Subxaanalah that's just focking sad wallahi. War ninyaho isku xishood waxaan waa gunnimo caadi ah.

P.S. As someone who absolutely dejects caste system and is an enemy of it, "gunnimo" in this manner I mean as a personal description of disgraceful personal traits lke cuqdad.

[Voltage]

Completely fake map
These are more accurate



The villages closest to jowhar that are not inhabited by Jareer are shared by moobleen & Barsane

Moobleen is Mudulood right.

Wallahi you are close to the guy who might end up the next president of HIRSHABELLE STATE being backed by the Fed Government.

He is Mudulood but not Abgaal. Just like Cayr Ahlu Sunnah couldn't replace Sacad because of they would see it as immediate provocation, an Abgaal cannot be used to reectify the wrong trajectory Hirshabelle went through due to what Hassan Sheikh thought was "xaal marin."

What people can think is xaal one moment can be seen as leading to a negative path if it is not corrected...namely Xawaadle doesn't have dhaxal, CAN'T even have dhaxal even if they wanted for Hirshabelle presidency.

The next President is MUDULOOD, BUT NOT ABGAAL. A MUDULOOD COMPLETELY PART OF THE HIRSHABELLE CONSTITUENCY. WE ALL KNOW HIM VERY WELL TOO.

[Voltage]

Completely fake map
These are more accurate



The villages closest to jowhar that are not inhabited by Jareer are shared by moobleen & Barsane

Moobleen is Mudulood right.

Wallahi you are close to the guy who might end up the next president of HIRSHABELLE STATE being backed by the Fed Government.

He is Mudulood but not Abgaal. Just like Cayr Ahlu Sunnah couldn't replace Sacad because of they would see it as immediate provocation, an Abgaal cannot be used to reectify the wrong trajectory Hirshabelle went through due to what Hassan Sheikh thought was "xaal marin."

What people can think is xaal one moment can be seen as leading to a negative path if it is not corrected...namely Xawaadle doesn't have dhaxal, CAN'T even have dhaxal even if they wanted for Hirshabelle presidency.

The next President is MUDULOOD, BUT NOT ABGAAL. A MUDULOOD COMPLETELY PART OF THE HIRSHABELLE CONSTITUENCY. WE ALL KNOW HIM VERY WELL TOO.

[XHKS]

Completely fake map
These are more accurate



The villages closest to jowhar that are not inhabited by Jareer are shared by moobleen & Barsane

Moobleen is Mudulood right.

Wallahi you are close to the guy who might end up the next president of HIRSHABELLE STATE being backed by the Fed Government.

He is Mudulood but not Abgaal. Just like Cayr Ahlu Sunnah couldn't replace Sacad because of they would see it as immediate provocation, an Abgaal cannot be used to reectify the wrong trajectory Hirshabelle went through due to what Hassan Sheikh thought was "xaal marin."

What people can think is xaal one moment can be seen as leading to a negative path if it is not corrected...namely Xawaadle doesn't have dhaxal, CAN'T even have dhaxal even if they wanted for Hirshabelle presidency.

The next President is MUDULOOD, BUT NOT ABGAAL. A MUDULOOD COMPLETELY PART OF THE HIRSHABELLE CONSTITUENCY. WE ALL KNOW HIM VERY WELL TOO.

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