im gonna follow OD soon

[sahal80]

this site used to be more neutral now is becoming pro mx and i heard some r using their cousin Suldan Order account to ban their opponents. smile is likely the one who deleyes the posts for grandpa and skywalker or moves mine to the clan section. HAG mods are not active. i have wife and children i have no time for clan driven place like this.



Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:24 pm
From: original dervish
Recipient: sahal80

Salaam sxb

Please excuse me for entering your pms but have a short message for you.

I have exiled myself from snet commenting because of the biased actions of a mod and his friends/ relatives. They have moved, deleted and even banned me for rejecting their political agendas and opinions.

I still silently visit the snet forums and enjoy reading your analyses, even though I may not not always agree.

Its important to share views and ideas in order to mature as a people and nation.
Keep on posting.....there are many silent visitors whom respect your work.

Regards

O.D

Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:39 pm
by sahal80

wow im glad to hear from you i know mx folks have been banning guys but they contsct with the isaaq folks to unban them like la justicier. we need you wallah and miss you.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

this site used to be more neutral now is becoming pro mx and i heard some r using their cousin Suldan Order account to ban their opponents. smile is likely the one who deleyes the posts for grandpa and skywalker or moves mine to the clan section. HAG mods are not active. i have wife and children i have no time for clan driven place like this.



Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:24 pm
From: original dervish
Recipient: sahal80

Salaam sxb

Please excuse me for entering your pms but have a short message for you.

I have exiled myself from snet commenting because of the biased actions of a mod and his friends/ relatives. They have moved, deleted and even banned me for rejecting their political agendas and opinions.

I still silently visit the snet forums and enjoy reading your analyses, even though I may not not always agree.

Its important to share views and ideas in order to mature as a people and nation.
Keep on posting.....there are many silent visitors whom respect your work.

Regards

O.D

Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:39 pm
by sahal80

wow im glad to hear from you i know mx folks have been banning guys but they contsct with the isaaq folks to unban them like la justicier. we need you wallah and miss you.

Bro you attack MX 24/7. We do dulqaad for you. You brazenly and cowardly do isku dir against us towards other clans. Now your own is correcting you about your own degaan, Hirshabelle. That's between you and your HAG cousins bro. After you annoyed Beesha Barakaysan for years and months. We corrected you and told you the blunt truth, that your a cat compared to the elephant that is Abgaal. They confirmed. Handle your beef sxb. Don't do habarwac because you got embarrassed.

And secondly, we don't hate anybody. We allow everyone to post. But we don't allow anti Sade hatred and the blunt Sadephobia that you. You're smart bro. Don't make it obvious. Be more subtle and witty. That's free game I'm giving you.

As you would feel about anti HAG agendas that's how we feel about our affairs, people hate us because we are the ruling class. Internal HAG affairs are not our concern. We leave that to you and your cousins. Just don't hide you own internal problems in Hirshabelle under the mask of Sadephobia. You're not sophisticated enough eebow. That's HG skillset.

[sahal80]

this site used to be more neutral now is becoming pro mx and i heard some r using their cousin Suldan Order account to ban their opponents. smile is likely the one who deleyes the posts for grandpa and skywalker or moves mine to the clan section. HAG mods are not active. i have wife and children i have no time for clan driven place like this.



Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:24 pm
From: original dervish
Recipient: sahal80

Salaam sxb

Please excuse me for entering your pms but have a short message for you.

I have exiled myself from snet commenting because of the biased actions of a mod and his friends/ relatives. They have moved, deleted and even banned me for rejecting their political agendas and opinions.

I still silently visit the snet forums and enjoy reading your analyses, even though I may not not always agree.

Its important to share views and ideas in order to mature as a people and nation.
Keep on posting.....there are many silent visitors whom respect your work.

Regards

O.D

Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:39 pm
by sahal80

wow im glad to hear from you i know mx folks have been banning guys but they contsct with the isaaq folks to unban them like la justicier. we need you wallah and miss you.

Bro you attack MX 24/7. We do dulqaad for you. You brazenly and cowardly do isku dir against us towards other clans. Now your own is correcting you about your own degaan, Hirshabelle. That's between you and your HAG cousins bro. After you annoyed Beesha Barakaysan for years and months. We corrected you and told you the blunt truth, that your a cat compared to the elephant that is Abgaal. They confirmed. Handle your beef sxb. Don't do habarwac because you got embarrassed.

And secondly, we don't hate anybody. We allow everyone to post. But we don't allow anti Sade hatred and the blunt Sadephobia that you. You're smart bro. Don't make it obvious. Be more subtle and witty. That's free game I'm giving you.

As you would feel about anti HAG agendas that's how we feel about our affairs, people hate us because we are the ruling class. Internal HAG affairs are not our concern. We leave that to you and your cousins. Just don't hide you own internal problems in Hirshabelle under the mask of Sadephobia. You're not sophisticated enough eebow. That's HG skillset.

listen i dont care about clans im pro some politics and against some politics i dont insult clans or do clan bashing i release some inside info, i talk about the somali politics objectively. as for hirshabelle yes hawadle are its kings this may piss off some friends who should look at the bigger picture. if i was them i wouldnt bother about a region rather about Xamar and villa Somalia. hirshabelle waa naag hawadle saan rabnaan ka samaynaa. i was offered big job from waare but im here bc of my wife. my daughter will go to the school next september when she learns english will will move to shariqa and i will be hirshabelle simsaar in there. they wonna me dubai but i like sharija bc it has sharia law. i know you r chearleading him cause you wanna divede us that why i warned him many times to close the adan yabaal topic. at the end i posted a video and posts claiming being armed us by Farmaajo wtf how msny goodah they have? isloow, filish, hirshabelle vice president. my point was on how jowhar is our border and i proved it with sources and video of hawadle nomads dpeaking their strong accent in that area.

back to the topic what give you more authirity than the other mods? i know the owner is warya is mx and he is very reer magaal guy and he left it as i believe. there r mids from all clans why only the mx ones active? this is why im going to somalispot they message me all the time to join them also somaliwave. gonna karbash you in somalispot

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

this site used to be more neutral now is becoming pro mx and i heard some r using their cousin Suldan Order account to ban their opponents. smile is likely the one who deleyes the posts for grandpa and skywalker or moves mine to the clan section. HAG mods are not active. i have wife and children i have no time for clan driven place like this.



Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:24 pm
From: original dervish
Recipient: sahal80

Salaam sxb

Please excuse me for entering your pms but have a short message for you.

I have exiled myself from snet commenting because of the biased actions of a mod and his friends/ relatives. They have moved, deleted and even banned me for rejecting their political agendas and opinions.

I still silently visit the snet forums and enjoy reading your analyses, even though I may not not always agree.

Its important to share views and ideas in order to mature as a people and nation.
Keep on posting.....there are many silent visitors whom respect your work.

Regards

O.D

Sent: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:39 pm
by sahal80

wow im glad to hear from you i know mx folks have been banning guys but they contsct with the isaaq folks to unban them like la justicier. we need you wallah and miss you.

Bro you attack MX 24/7. We do dulqaad for you. You brazenly and cowardly do isku dir against us towards other clans. Now your own is correcting you about your own degaan, Hirshabelle. That's between you and your HAG cousins bro. After you annoyed Beesha Barakaysan for years and months. We corrected you and told you the blunt truth, that your a cat compared to the elephant that is Abgaal. They confirmed. Handle your beef sxb. Don't do habarwac because you got embarrassed.

And secondly, we don't hate anybody. We allow everyone to post. But we don't allow anti Sade hatred and the blunt Sadephobia that you. You're smart bro. Don't make it obvious. Be more subtle and witty. That's free game I'm giving you.

As you would feel about anti HAG agendas that's how we feel about our affairs, people hate us because we are the ruling class. Internal HAG affairs are not our concern. We leave that to you and your cousins. Just don't hide you own internal problems in Hirshabelle under the mask of Sadephobia. You're not sophisticated enough eebow. That's HG skillset.

listen i dont care about clans im pro some politics and against some politics i dont insult clans or do clan bashing i release some inside info, i talk about the somali politics objectively. as for hirshabelle yes hawadle are its kings this may piss off some friends who should look at the bigger picture. if i was them i wouldnt bother about a region rather about Xamar and villa Somalia. hirshabelle waa naag hawadle saan rabnaan ka samaynaa. i was offered big job from waare but im here bc of my wife. my daughter will go to the school next september when she learns english will will move to shariqa and i will be hirshabelle simsaar in there. they wonna me dubai but i like sharija bc it has sharia law. i know you r chearleading him cause you wanna divede us that why i warned him many times to close the adan yabaal topic. at the end i posted a video and posts claiming being armed us by Farmaajo wtf how msny goodah they have? isloow, filish, hirshabelle vice president. my point was on how jowhar is our border and i proved it with sources and video of hawadle nomads dpeaking their strong accent in that area.

back to the topic what give you more authirity than the other mods? i know the owner is warya is mx and he is very reer magaal guy and he left it as i believe. there r mids from all clans why only the mx ones active? this is why im going to somalispot they message me all the time to join them also somaliwave. gonna karbash you in somalispot

Do you brother. Your free. I'm not a mod. They move my shit all the time. I hold no cuqdad. Laakin don't cry and run away when it gets tough. That's women behavior. Karbaash me?

okay good luck

[Voltage]

Sahal,

Here we go again.

Sahal, and I say this without meaning to insult you sxb, truly; but you have a really infantile dabeecad. As in childish dabeecad or perhaps just not emotionally developed one.

I say that because a child will take his spoon and throw his food all over the place---on the wall, the carpet, the windows, even on other people---yet the minute you grab the spoon from the child and take his bowl of food, the child will pout and twist their mouth down, and bunch their face beginning to cry. The child at this point is playing a very manipulative game as a result of human nature, because biologically the child is designed with the human instinct to cry in order to get sympathy. The child will probably only stop crying after he is picked and his head rubbed by the adult who took the food away.

Similarly Sahal, literally NO MAREHAN HERE ever start a topic attacking your people or region. Not a single one.

I, as Voltage, have never started a SINGLE TOPIC designed to either troll or provoke you using your clan (Xawaadle) or lands (Hiiraan or Hirshabelle). Not a SINGLE TOPIC have I ever started. The reason being that I and almost all Marehan view Xawaadle or Hiiraan like we do almost all other Somalis with whom we do not have conflicting or intsersecting hostilities with.

Yet, it has come to the point where 99% of your topics and entire contribution are not even any more about your attacks on Farmaajo (whom you ACKNOWLEDGED are attacking because of his clan background), but rather completely about Marehan as a clan or their regions/lands----again which your clan or background do not have any conflicting or intersecting hostilities with in the first person or tangibly (i.e. not neighbors and not part of each other's local political calculus).

You literally spend 99% of your time now provoking Marehan---like the kid who spends his food throwing it everywhere.

Yet when understandably the Marehan members naturally fight back---- like the child who cries when the food is taken away, you expect to be infantilized by acting victimized.

You ARE NOT the victim sxb. You are the damn aggressor.

Finally, I have seen you insinuate this thing about me using mod accounts or having to do with bans , but as is my habit, I generally ignored you the first time because I thought you were being a copycat.

I say insinuate about me because you explicitly referenced Perfect Order and relation to him---which would be me.

I am only going to say this once so listen up and listen well.

1. I have not used a single mod account to log in to.
2. I have not asked a single mod to ban anyone or move any topics on my behalf.
3. The SAME PEOPLE who originally pioneered this charge were IRONICALLY the ones who were banned, with acknowledgement and blessing from Fah and forum admin, for---GET THIS---using a defunct Somaliland mod account to harass and erase my posts in General Politics section.

That's my last address to you.

If you are leaving, good bye.

If you decide to say, I look forward to your future contributions.

[sahal80]

Bro you attack MX 24/7. We do dulqaad for you. You brazenly and cowardly do isku dir against us towards other clans. Now your own is correcting you about your own degaan, Hirshabelle. That's between you and your HAG cousins bro. After you annoyed Beesha Barakaysan for years and months. We corrected you and told you the blunt truth, that your a cat compared to the elephant that is Abgaal. They confirmed. Handle your beef sxb. Don't do habarwac because you got embarrassed.

And secondly, we don't hate anybody. We allow everyone to post. But we don't allow anti Sade hatred and the blunt Sadephobia that you. You're smart bro. Don't make it obvious. Be more subtle and witty. That's free game I'm giving you.

As you would feel about anti HAG agendas that's how we feel about our affairs, people hate us because we are the ruling class. Internal HAG affairs are not our concern. We leave that to you and your cousins. Just don't hide you own internal problems in Hirshabelle under the mask of Sadephobia. You're not sophisticated enough eebow. That's HG skillset.

listen i dont care about clans im pro some politics and against some politics i dont insult clans or do clan bashing i release some inside info, i talk about the somali politics objectively. as for hirshabelle yes hawadle are its kings this may piss off some friends who should look at the bigger picture. if i was them i wouldnt bother about a region rather about Xamar and villa Somalia. hirshabelle waa naag hawadle saan rabnaan ka samaynaa. i was offered big job from waare but im here bc of my wife. my daughter will go to the school next september when she learns english will will move to shariqa and i will be hirshabelle simsaar in there. they wonna me dubai but i like sharija bc it has sharia law. i know you r chearleading him cause you wanna divede us that why i warned him many times to close the adan yabaal topic. at the end i posted a video and posts claiming being armed us by Farmaajo wtf how msny goodah they have? isloow, filish, hirshabelle vice president. my point was on how jowhar is our border and i proved it with sources and video of hawadle nomads dpeaking their strong accent in that area.

back to the topic what give you more authirity than the other mods? i know the owner is warya is mx and he is very reer magaal guy and he left it as i believe. there r mids from all clans why only the mx ones active? this is why im going to somalispot they message me all the time to join them also somaliwave. gonna karbash you in somalispot

Do you brother. Your free. I'm not a mod. They move my shit all the time. I hold no cuqdad. Laakin don't cry and run away when it gets tough. That's women behavior. Karbaash me?

okay good luck

its some mx who uses his cousins account also smile. im pissed of by moving my topic on clan section after taking too long wity my bad english that why i started wrinting Somali. its very biased site. this is abuse of power. anyways thank you.

[sahal80]

Sahal,

Here we go again.

Sahal, and I say this without meaning to insult you sxb, truly; but you have a really infantile dabeecad. As in childish dabeecad or perhaps just not emotionally developed one.

I say that because a child will take his spoon and throw his food all over the place---on the wall, the carpet, the windows, even on other people---yet the minute you grab the spoon from the child and take his bowl of food, the child will pout and twist their mouth down, and bunch their face beginning to cry. The child at this point is playing a very manipulative game as a result of human nature, because biologically the child is designed with the human instinct to cry in order to get sympathy. The child will probably only stop crying after he is picked and his head rubbed by the adult who took the food away.

Similarly Sahal, literally NO MAREHAN HERE ever start a topic attacking your people or region. Not a single one.

I, as Voltage, have never started a SINGLE TOPIC designed to either troll or provoke you using your clan (Xawaadle) or lands (Hiiraan or Hirshabelle). Not a SINGLE TOPIC have I ever started. The reason being that I and almost all Marehan view Xawaadle or Hiiraan like we do almost all other Somalis with whom we do not have conflicting or intsersecting hostilities with.

Yet, it has come to the point where 99% of your topics and entire contribution are not even any more about your attacks on Farmaajo (whom you ACKNOWLEDGED are attacking because of his clan background), but rather completely about Marehan as a clan or their regions/lands----again which your clan or background do not have any conflicting or intersecting hostilities with in the first person or tangibly (i.e. not neighbors and not part of each other's local political calculus).

You literally spend 99% of your time now provoking Marehan---like the kid who spends his food throwing it everywhere.

Yet when understandably the Marehan members naturally fight back---- like the child who cries when the food is taken away, you expect to be infantilized by acting victimized.

You ARE NOT the victim sxb. You are the damn aggressor.

Finally, I have seen you insinuate this thing about me using mod accounts or having to do with bans , but as is my habit, I generally ignored you the first time because I thought you were being a copycat.

I say insinuate about me because you explicitly referenced Perfect Order and relation to him---which would be me.

I am only going to say this once so listen up and listen well.

1. I have not used a single mod account to log in to.
2. I have not asked a single mod to ban anyone or move any topics on my behalf.
3. The SAME PEOPLE who originally pioneered this charge were IRONICALLY the ones who were banned, with acknowledgement and blessing from Fah and forum admin, for---GET THIS---using a defunct Somaliland mod account to harass and erase my posts in General Politics section.

That's my last address to you.

If you are leaving, good bye.

If you decide to say, I look forward to your future contributions.

kkkk im not ciyaal i was motivated by ODs post i know who he meant by his post im like wtf im doing in this place having seein my post getting moved to the clan section to mute me. well someone said to me your using POs account if not then raali ahow.

[SultanOrder]

No one uses my account, I barely use my account, and I don't even have the power to ban anyone.

Niyow, take a break and enjoy your family, insha'allah I wish you khayre for you and your family.

[Voltage]

kkkk im not ciyaal i was motivated by ODs post i know who he meant by his post im like wtf im doing in this place having seein my post getting moved to the clan section to mute me. well someone said to me your using POs account if not then raali ahow.

I know they did, that's why I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

Do you even know AFTER they were banned for exactly what they accused me of (using mod account to harass or erase), they then came and used the same mod account to---GET THIS---go to Gedo section and erase topic after topic and post after post I had written.

Only then was the forum admin able to get involved and;

1. Completely remove Seemeyer's defunct Somaliland Mod Account
2. Bring back all the stuff they erased from me IN GEDO SECTION ka waran---nevermind all our problems started because they were erasing my posts in GENERAL POLITICS section

Yet these people continue to act victimized when I have never either banned or harassed them or did any moderating using ANY account nor asked any mod to do any moderating on my behalf.

I have generally moved on and didn't look back a second which is why I ignored you the first time, because like I said, I thought you were being a copycat.

On a personal note, I am on record for saying I have actually valued your contribution. Even when I vehemently disagreed, I try to engage in a spirited debate from a place of goodwill.

It has been my wish before and my wish going forward that there not be any bad blood. I respect you as a person and I have absolutely nothing but profound deference and goodwill towards your community and your region.

I think it is important for you to also acknowledge how you contributed to the mean spirit or bad blood you perhaps feel has set in the discussions here. Not even for our consumption but for your own to perhaps try to stay in objective politics, even vehemently in disagreement with us, rather than continue to provoke and antagonize Marehan members.

[Voltage]

..

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

Wtf when have I moved your threads? Dude everybody and their momma knows that you attack marehans 24/7..yet I don’t censor your shit. You have been here for years and have never been banned once. kaadi badane waa lo gogol badiya..cuqdadaada iyo daan daansigaaga waan u dulqaadana. You need to chill with your cuqdad. You are pissed because Abkowdhiblaawe put in your place for claiming his lands. Talk about misplaced anger.

Ps : The troll OD is not banned

[sahal80]

Wtf when have I moved your threads? Dude everybody and their momma knows that you attack marehans 24/7..yet I don’t censor your shit. You have been here for years and have never been banned once. kaadi badane waa lo gogol badiya..cuqdadaada iyo daan daansigaaga waan u dulqaadana. You need to chill with your cuqdad. You are pissed because Abkowdhiblaawe put in your place for claiming his lands. Talk about misplaced anger.

Ps : The troll OD is not banned

alright caraweelo
i will lighten up my "daandaansi"

kkkk im not ciyaal i was motivated by ODs post i know who he meant by his post im like wtf im doing in this place having seein my post getting moved to the clan section to mute me. well someone said to me your using POs account if not then raali ahow.

I know they did, that's why I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

Do you even know AFTER they were banned for exactly what they accused me of (using mod account to harass or erase), they then came and used the same mod account to---GET THIS---go to Gedo section and erase topic after topic and post after post I had written.

Only then was the forum admin able to get involved and;

1. Completely remove Seemeyer's defunct Somaliland Mod Account
2. Bring back all the stuff they erased from me IN GEDO SECTION ka waran---nevermind all our problems started because they were erasing my posts in GENERAL POLITICS section

Yet these people continue to act victimized when I have never either banned or harassed them or did any moderating using ANY account nor asked any mod to do any moderating on my behalf.

I have generally moved on and didn't look back a second which is why I ignored you the first time, because like I said, I thought you were being a copycat.

On a personal note, I am on record for saying I have actually valued your contribution. Even when I vehemently disagreed, I try to engage in a spirited debate from a place of goodwill.

It has been my wish before and my wish going forward that there not be any bad blood. I respect you as a person and I have absolutely nothing but profound deference and goodwill towards your community and your region.

I think it is important for you to also acknowledge how you contributed to the mean spirit or bad blood you perhaps feel has set in the discussions here. Not even for our consumption but for your own to perhaps try to stay in objective politics, even vehemently in disagreement with us, rather than continue to provoke and antagonize Marehan members.

we have some unconsciously rapprochement there like i support qoorqoor cause im tired of HG musalsal i suppot him in bringing beesha together, i changed my mind about Kheyre a while ago and im committed to my ceasefire with him, i still support Madoobe and im anti-Farmaajo, pro-Turkey, anti-UAE, BUT i dont go to your Gedo section and troll in there so i hope to tolerate each other on our political differences

im not against Farmaajo for his qabiil background just the whole xoogaga stuff and ignoring the power sharing with the hiraab clans wich i believe they r tge key to stability anyways its his last year and the history will judge him let us just wait to see who was right all the way.

No one uses my account, I barely use my account, and I don't even have the power to ban anyone.

Niyow, take a break and enjoy your family, insha'allah I wish you khayre for you and your family.

wtf ok thank you bro for wishing me kheyre you too.

[Turbulence]

Sahal, What is your twitter handle?

[sahal80]

Sahal, What is your twitter handle?

i dont have active twitter account just registered to check out what is going every 3 days. i saw alot of guys using my info there when was talking about what i said about calanleey of kismaayo so while reading for them with smile i came across the clan mapping twitter. i just read for harun macruf this guy is new to america and his english is great. he used to be radio mogadishu wariye he is murursade back in the 80s. he arrived america by mid 2000s the other guy is adenabdulle aka twistic logic.

these guys r funny they must be snetters arwaaq sounds mkkk

when reer hamar claiming hawadle and mx with the name nationalist

[XHKS]

sahal dont be like ciyaalka majerteen iyo iidoor

sahal nabadoon reer koonfuured ba tahay, midnamada walalaaha koonfureed wad nabadoon