Date should be set for Jubaland reconciliation conference

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Date should be set for Jubaland reconciliation conference

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United states should pay all the cost for such a endeavour and give development incentive to jubaland major clans, mainly the Marehan and Ogadeen and EU and U.S should build and fund jubaland development corporation separate from Somalia donor AID.

Madoobe election should be recognized, given he agrees to bottom up reconciliation headed by Federal government special envoy with participation of Kenya, Ethiopia and IGAD, overseen by U.S embassy and UN special envoy.

Spoilers and Somali politicians and non native clans and their representatives should be blocked.

The reconciliation conference should start in doolow Gedo and be finalised in kismaayo.
full agreement should be signed that Guarantees jubaland territorial integrity and its autonomy with autonomous national guard force that has guaranteed funding mechanism and and capacity building, in-return federal government institutions should freely operate in jubaland.

Jubaland should then be given full autonomy given it cooperates with federal government and provides border security to Ethiopia and kenya.
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Re: Date should be set for Jubaland reconciliation conference

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XHKS wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:38 pm
Madoobe election should be recognized, given he agrees
When are you ever going to be ready to explain why you have the EFFECT of seemingly being invested in the person of that corrupt, johnny come late two bit warlord who had his start as a terrorist armed combatant.

He was fighting the recognized Somali government then and he is still fighting the Somali government now.

In fact, how can one provide development incentive to the same man who sat in Kismayo since 2012 and has literally nothing to show for the development incentive already provided to him in Jubbaland's name?

If he was held accountable just for that, he would be jailed already.

But that's not all;

He SHAMELESSLY made a complete mockery of good governence with the "election" you want recognized.

Somalia is in a fragile state like a toddler learning to walk.

Sacrificing key state objectives like good governance for Political EXPEDIENCY sets a PRECEDENT that will end up becoming an existential treat.

And there is plenty more that precludes his very right to EVEN PARTICIPATE in future Jubbaland elections pet alone have his shameful conduct legitimized.

Finally, there are moments where most of what you write resembles "white noise" and lodged in there somewhere is the shock objective that always has the outcome of legitimizing Madoobe.

No Sir, We don't want thin.
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Re: Date should be set for Jubaland reconciliation conference

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As bad as Madoobe might be......his J/Land administration is like a Scandinavian province compared to the moryaan bastards that preceded him.
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Re: Date should be set for Jubaland reconciliation conference

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Voltage wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:52 am
XHKS wrote: Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:38 pm
Madoobe election should be recognized, given he agrees
When are you ever going to be ready to explain why you have the EFFECT of seemingly being invested in the person of that corrupt, johnny come late two bit warlord who had his start as a terrorist armed combatant.

He was fighting the recognized Somali government then and he is still fighting the Somali government now.

In fact, how can one provide development incentive to the same man who sat in Kismayo since 2012 and has literally nothing to show for the development incentive already provided to him in Jubbaland's name?

If he was held accountable just for that, he would be jailed already.

But that's not all;

He SHAMELESSLY made a complete mockery of good governence with the "election" you want recognized.

Somalia is in a fragile state like a toddler learning to walk.

Sacrificing key state objectives like good governance for Political EXPEDIENCY sets a PRECEDENT that will end up becoming an existential treat.

And there is plenty more that precludes his very right to EVEN PARTICIPATE in future Jubbaland elections pet alone have his shameful conduct legitimized.

Finally, there are moments where most of what you write resembles "white noise" and lodged in there somewhere is the shock objective that always has the outcome of legitimizing Madoobe.

No Sir, We don't want thin.
All am saying is Jubaland needs reconciliation and fair and transparent election.
in-turn jubaland should receive same status as Somaliland and puntland, full autonomy.

Madoobe will go but the underlining problem remains of Transnational ogadeni politics that is destabilising Jubaland and toxyfing somali body-politics.

Madoobe disarmament must be part of the reconciliation and the large weapons importation must be accounted for.
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Re: Date should be set for Jubaland reconciliation conference

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Madoobe's recognition has already been confirmed by the UN when they urged xabashi prostitute farmaajo to work with all FMS presidents.

I've been bone for few weeks, and I came back to boon ilkoyar tears, as usual. :lol:

loving it

sii baroorta, hada xataa HG tii dhulkii GG idinka maydhsatay baad gedo keenteen. I cant wait for this to backfire, and hawiye start to claim parts of Gedo. :lol:
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Re: Date should be set for Jubaland reconciliation conference

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i predict beesha caalamka to call for ceasefire in JL they r heading To kismayo to meet Ahmed Madobe cause AMISOM is split on two the warring groups. IF Madobe is recognized Farmaajo efforts in Gedo and potentially buaale will not come to fruition as madobe is the one who appoints the local governors and district commissioners. Kenyan backed pro Madobe army is heading to Gedo from dhoobley. judging by his last year
the only card remained for Farmaajo is to gorgorton on his gains in gedo in any heshiis with Madoobe.
https://www.garoweonline.com/en/news/so ... in-somalia
this statement implicitly recognizes Madobe and calls for talks

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Magaalada raaxada

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