Ramifications of JL and PL victory on central states(End of N&N)

[sahal80]

The END OF NABAR IYO NAXDIN no more they can use the SNA for JL and PLs Nothern Mudug!!

After the victory of Dblock States, HAGite States will change their tune and show their disobedience too "waayo looma dhama"

this comes at a time great wadatashi iyo aayo katalin shirar for regional stakeholders are taking place now. i heard president waare is gonna make a bold move in shirka baladwayne declaring that only golaha deegaanka can appoint the mayors from now on to get the beesha backing in his presidential continuity till oct 2020

beesha mudulood shir had shown that their periorities are Villa Somalia and Banaadir State

reconciliation agendas Among Beesha HG.

all these shirar show that the mighty HAG will rise from the ashes once again.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

You don't understand diplomatic language nor have you read diplomatic cables, am I right? It shows. There have numerous times where IC and specifically the US criticized SFG. Another example is the UK and EU members. But things still played out organically and most of the time in favor of N&N. Another delusional statement is you implying Waare has any awood or power to stop N&N when they are his lifeline! He's tied to Xamar and that's obviously the base of N&N. Thus he can't offer any aid to his alleged "allies". Secondly, who knows if he will come back to Hirshabelle as president?

He has more of a tough shot to come back than Farmaajo does. Thirdly, he's lack of independence is the reason why he left madasha mamul goboleeds in the first place! Because he surrounded by Dowlada Federaalka in his periphery and AS on his rear. He's no threat. Galmudug is done deal. Qoor Qoor is head and Xaaf tanaasul will be announced soon enough. ASWJ w/o Ethiopian arms and support is nothing. As demonstrated by Pres. Qoor Qoor recently by taking over ASWJ revenue check points in Guricel & Dhusamareeb They (HG) want their Hobyo port. Business is business, that comes before your old school HAGism. You relay on rumors and emotional matter to form your analysis. Which hasn't bear any fruits that are empirical and tangible in the last 3yrs. You've been out of your depth for a while and I sometimes wonder why nobody has told you openly. Voltage might humor you and pity you out of abtinimo. I don't bear those same illusions.

[sahal80]

i do'nt think you understand my point it's about Hirshabelle dastuur and beelaha hirshabelle. since my beesha is pushing for the "Hirshabelle cusub" Agenda, N&N is taking advantage of this to add waare to the qashin and back people like Goodah and mp nuur bayle who is likely to replace him as wasiirka waxbarashada. these two have reached a deal with Kheyre to oust waare first before the reshuffle. waare made deal with his abgaal vice president and gaaljecel speaker to stick together till oct 2020. abgaal vice president is Abdulqadir Osobles right hand man hassan sh appointed for his recommandation as middle shabelle governor and then vice president of Hirshabelle. abgaal r politacally many groups; Damjadeed and muuse suudi wacbuudhan abgaal, islamist harti abgaal and traditional anti-hiraab harti abgaal now jowhar is under the Salafi harti abgaal like osoble and respects sh sharif no more geedi ane salaad jeele. N&N want to bring back salaad gabayre group to jowhar. salaad and geedi are warsangali abgaal who hate HG for this reason the vice presidents and abgaal islamists r sticks with Waare against the Goodax-salaad jeele option.

waare uses the doplomats to make sure his term ends in oct 2020. what im talking about us rooting for his support among beesha and if N&N shows more hostility join JL and PL in shirka madasha that will take place in xalane with the presence of Ahmed Madobe.








sticking together till their term ends on oct 2020

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Sahal,

Listen to me carefully and listen well. This isn't the transitional era where IC meddle in our affairs due to our lack of cohesion and the lack of state institutions to defend vital national interests. Somalia isn't a Madi anymore. We have strong friends and allies. Pres. Farmaajo doesn't have a US passport and isn't beholden to them on every decision. The US has to placate Somalia's wishes or lose its influence to other global powers (China & Russia). It's that simple. Securing national sovereignity isn't up to the US. It shared it's opinion as it is interested in the security of the Horn and weakening of Al Shabaab to further it's own ambitions which is oil & gas interests in the Horn. It is forced to work with the SFG on this sensitive matter as it aroused and brought back dormant Somali nationalism. Ahmed Madobe's position is untenable either way. Whether he goes or not isn't the question. The question is when? This will be a very interesting summer I must say. I don't care for HAG's opinion on Jubbaland. Protecting the southern border against Kenya and it's ambitions of seizing our carbon resources in the maritime dispute is my job. It's in my blood line to protect the borders of Somalia against other nations. I have 600 years of history to back up that statement. If gumaysi over your land and God given inheirtance is good politics to you. To my generation it isnt. That's where you and me differ HEAVILY. You don't see the changing of the guards and the new epoch we are in. That speaks to the lack of dexterious thinking you have

[Samatalis249]

Sahal,

Listen to me carefully and listen well. This isn't the transitional era where IC meddle in our affairs due to our lack of cohesion and the lack of state institutions to defend vital national interests. Somalia isn't a Madi anymore. We have strong friends and allies. Pres. Farmaajo doesn't have a US passport and isn't beholden to them on every decision. The US has to placate Somalia's wishes or lose its influence to other global powers (China & Russia). It's that simple. Securing national sovereignity isn't up to the US. It shared it's opinion as it is interested in the security of the Horn and weakening of Al Shabaab to further it's own ambitions which is oil & gas interests in the Horn. It is forced to work with the SFG on this sensitive matter as it aroused and brought back dormant Somali nationalism. Ahmed Madobe's position is untenable either way. Whether he goes or not isn't the question. The question is when? This will be a very interesting summer I must say. I don't care for HAG's opinion on Jubbaland. Protecting the southern border against Kenya and it's ambitions of seizing our carbon resources in the maritime dispute is my job. It's in my blood line to protect the borders of Somalia against other nations. I have 600 years of history to back up that statement. If gumaysi over your land and God given inheirtance is good politics to you. To my generation it isnt. That's where you and me differ HEAVILY. You don't see the changing of the guards and the new epoch we are in. That speaks to the lack of dexterious thinking you have

When you slaughter an animal and the life is going out of them they have an adrenaline rush and start kicking and tensing.

For the next 50 years atleast your clan will be gone from federal and state level politics. Dadka na wey ku naceen

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Sahal,

Listen to me carefully and listen well. This isn't the transitional era where IC meddle in our affairs due to our lack of cohesion and the lack of state institutions to defend vital national interests. Somalia isn't a Madi anymore. We have strong friends and allies. Pres. Farmaajo doesn't have a US passport and isn't beholden to them on every decision. The US has to placate Somalia's wishes or lose its influence to other global powers (China & Russia). It's that simple. Securing national sovereignity isn't up to the US. It shared it's opinion as it is interested in the security of the Horn and weakening of Al Shabaab to further it's own ambitions which is oil & gas interests in the Horn. It is forced to work with the SFG on this sensitive matter as it aroused and brought back dormant Somali nationalism. Ahmed Madobe's position is untenable either way. Whether he goes or not isn't the question. The question is when? This will be a very interesting summer I must say. I don't care for HAG's opinion on Jubbaland. Protecting the southern border against Kenya and it's ambitions of seizing our carbon resources in the maritime dispute is my job. It's in my blood line to protect the borders of Somalia against other nations. I have 600 years of history to back up that statement. If gumaysi over your land and God given inheirtance is good politics to you. To my generation it isnt. That's where you and me differ HEAVILY. You don't see the changing of the guards and the new epoch we are in. That speaks to the lack of dexterious thinking you have

When you slaughter an animal and the life is going out of them they have an adrenaline rush and start kicking and tensing.

For the next 50 years atleast your clan will be gone from federal and state level politics. Dadka na wey ku naceen

I have the masses. The majority is me. 70% of the youth back N&N. It is the opposite for the mucarad. Farmaajo brought back dormant ethno-nationalism. This generation who are the post 91 babies lead. The old farts who represent '91 thinking are ones who are despised.

I gave them Nur again. As I am their Emir

[sahal80]

saddam pls dont comment on this samatalis troll in my threads he is here for shaqolaan. every time i try to check who commented its him inall my threads wtf

waxaan cayayaanka yaa naga qabsada is he Sahal to reply that post im not gonna comment cause of him

[Caytame]

It is over for Abiye's son.

All his little plots have backfired on him, and having antagonized most stakeholders in the country, he is done for, and has sealed his clans fate in the process.

Good riddance!

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

It is over for Abiye's son.

All his little plots have backfired on him, and having antagonized most stakeholders in the country, he is done for, and has sealed his clans fate in the process.

Good riddance!

Uhuru's bastard is done for. You'll see in the next few months. I'll up this just for you. I love humiliating your kind. I would worry about shoring up Afmadow and Dhobley. Gedo will be on the offensive

[Caytame]

It is over for Abiye's son.

All his little plots have backfired on him, and having antagonized most stakeholders in the country, he is done for, and has sealed his clans fate in the process.

Good riddance!

Uhuru's bastard is done for. You'll see in the next few months. I'll up this just for you. I love humiliating your kind. I would worry about shoring up Afmadow and Dhobley. Gedo will be on the offensive

should I dig your older threats? It is been years now and you're still making empty threats.

Madoobe karbaashed hiiraale 3 times, and now farmaajo, and he will make you go back to your obscure origins.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

It is over for Abiye's son.

All his little plots have backfired on him, and having antagonized most stakeholders in the country, he is done for, and has sealed his clans fate in the process.

Good riddance!

Uhuru's bastard is done for. You'll see in the next few months. I'll up this just for you. I love humiliating your kind. I would worry about shoring up Afmadow and Dhobley. Gedo will be on the offensive

should I dig your older threats? It is been years now and you're still making empty threats.

Madoobe karbaashed hiiraale 3 times, and now farmaajo, and he will make you go back to your obscure origins.

You pissed off Reer Guuri. You know how we get down Cagdheer. I kill niggas for fun. Reer Diini doesn't have to do anything anymore. You know the muscle behind Marehan. The Jeegaan tactic of paying us off to not karbaash you is OVER. Farmaajo has called in the banners. Aarsade is on the move.

[Caytame]

Uhuru's bastard is done for. You'll see in the next few months. I'll up this just for you. I love humiliating your kind. I would worry about shoring up Afmadow and Dhobley. Gedo will be on the offensive

should I dig your older threats? It is been years now and you're still making empty threats.

Madoobe karbaashed hiiraale 3 times, and now farmaajo, and he will make you go back to your obscure origins.

You pissed off Reer Guuri. You know how we get down Cagdheer. I kill niggas for fun. Reer Diini doesn't have to do anything anymore. You know the muscle behind Marehan. The Jeegaan tactic of paying us off to not karbaash you is OVER. Farmaajo has called in the banners. Aarsade is on the move.

Alright man, I look forward to a similar threat next month

[Samatalis249]

should I dig your older threats? It is been years now and you're still making empty threats.

Madoobe karbaashed hiiraale 3 times, and now farmaajo, and he will make you go back to your obscure origins.

You pissed off Reer Guuri. You know how we get down Cagdheer. I kill niggas for fun. Reer Diini doesn't have to do anything anymore. You know the muscle behind Marehan. The Jeegaan tactic of paying us off to not karbaash you is OVER. Farmaajo has called in the banners. Aarsade is on the move.

Alright man, I look forward to a similar threat next month

[original dervish]

Farmaajo in typical Somali fashion has overplayed his hand and lost.

Madoobe has prooved himself to be the teflon don.
J/L can now look forward to peace and prosperity inshallah.

[AbdiWahab252]

Darood are dowladiid