Worst British war crimes against Koonfur

[sahal80]

these modafuckers dismantled this railway and took it with them to East Africa. in other words stole it. the second phase was planned to go through hiiraan(Jalalaqsi, Buuloburde, baydhabo, Mustaxil/Baladweyne and then Ethiopia. after that they had a plan to connect with Eritrea.
Hirshabelle would have enjoyed today big infrastructure.

Italians in Jowhar were ok bc they were paying people and the prince had unofficial Somali wife wasnt local though. i have seen long time ago a pic of their son who is now old man he looks fully white.








"The line was later dismantled by British troops during World War II."

[barbarossa]

So much like today, Puntland Xaliimos were being screwed by cadaans well over a century ago? Thanks for the important history lesson, ustaad Sahal.

[Mk777]

The Italians do not owe us anything they were Xaasid fascists who used chemical weapons against the xabashi. The Somalis are 4th world people I don’t think a simple railway would change their situation. A sunni version of iran would work well in this country.

[sahal80]

So much like today, Puntland Xaliimos were being screwed by cadaans well over a century ago? Thanks for the important history lesson, ustaad Sahal.

ustur yaa sheikh dont be the first to change it into clan bashing though for its a maryoolay bashing.

im mad at these f-king british destroyong our infrastructure i have listened before to local historians stating this and read as well some links saying they export it to east africa. im gonna post them.

[Samatalis249]

Nin raga uun baa daqikara gabad majeerteen. They will not tolerate you if you’re below there level kkkkk

[sahal80]

The Italians do not owe us anything they were Xaasid fascists who used chemical weapons against the xabashi. The Somalis are 4th world people I don’t think a simple railway would change their situation. A sunni version of iran would work well in this country.

sxb isticmaar is isticmaar my nabadion sandhool guure spent 7 years in eritrean prison for refusing to treat his people shit but what im talking about is the infrustructure side. as your Nomads only Hawadle and Abgaal benefited from it. this is when hawadle moved to qoraxsin in 1930s in buuloburde and buundowayn due to these bridges. Abgaals moved to Jowhar for shaqo when it was closer to Gaaljecel who lived in the western bank wich is now shared by hawadle. eastern bank used to be jareer.

they built buundoweyn bridge in 1930




buundowayn 1930 facilitated hawadle moving to qoraxsin.


Arab historians once said the French were looking a land that why they claimed algeria and killed millions of them. the british were looking for soldiers and workers for their east India company that why you get asians in every where they go. british were calling SL Aden's butcher's shop they were there to get meat for their soldiers in cadan and oman never had real interests in it as a land. the italians were looking for farms that why you had factories and railways and bridges and canal waterways.

[Mk777]

The Italians do not owe us anything they were Xaasid fascists who used chemical weapons against the xabashi. The Somalis are 4th world people I don’t think a simple railway would change their situation. A sunni version of iran would work well in this country.

sxb isticmaar is isticmaar my nabadion sandhool guure spent 7 years in eritrean prison for refusing to treat his people shit but what im talking about is the infrustructure side. as your Nomads only Hawadle and Abgaal benefited from it. this is when hawadle moved to qoraxsin in 1930s in buuloburde and buundowayn due to these bridges. Abgaals moved to Jowhar for shaqo when it was closer to Gaaljecel who lived in the western bank wich is now shared by hawadle. eastern bank used to be jareer.

they built buundoweyn bridge in 1930




buundowayn 1930 facilitated hawadle moving to qoraxsin.


Arab historians once said the French were looking a land that why they claimed algeria and killed millions of them. the british were looking for soldiers and workers for their east India company that why you get asians in every where they go. british were calling SL Aden's butcher's shop they were there to get meat for their soldiers in cadan and oman never had real interests in it as a land. the italians were looking for farms that why you had factories and railways and bridges and canal waterways.

Sxb freedom is priceless. All colonisers were qashin but the worse colonisers of course were the french and the best generally see as the British. Yes, they benefited us with some project in janaale and jowhar. Tell me what use is it for people who treat those who are their creators, investors (tuumaal etc) like shit.

Secondly, gaaljecel did benefit From jowhar. When it comes to numbers although jowhar is diverse their is more gaaljecel than abgaal in the city,ask anyone who has been their. They were overpowered by the maxamed dheere militia after a few days fighting early in the civil war.

[sahal80]

The Italians do not owe us anything they were Xaasid fascists who used chemical weapons against the xabashi. The Somalis are 4th world people I don’t think a simple railway would change their situation. A sunni version of iran would work well in this country.

sxb isticmaar is isticmaar my nabadion sandhool guure spent 7 years in eritrean prison for refusing to treat his people shit but what im talking about is the infrustructure side. as your Nomads only Hawadle and Abgaal benefited from it. this is when hawadle moved to qoraxsin in 1930s in buuloburde and buundowayn due to these bridges. Abgaals moved to Jowhar for shaqo when it was closer to Gaaljecel who lived in the western bank wich is now shared by hawadle. eastern bank used to be jareer.

they built buundoweyn bridge in 1930




buundowayn 1930 facilitated hawadle moving to qoraxsin.


Arab historians once said the French were looking a land that why they claimed algeria and killed millions of them. the british were looking for soldiers and workers for their east India company that why you get asians in every where they go. british were calling SL Aden's butcher's shop they were there to get meat for their soldiers in cadan and oman never had real interests in it as a land. the italians were looking for farms that why you had factories and railways and bridges and canal waterways.

Sxb freedom is priceless. All colonisers were qashin but the worse colonisers of course were the french and the best generally see as the British. Yes, they benefited us with some project in janaale and jowhar. Tell me what use is it for people who treat those who are their creators, investors (tuumaal etc) like shit.

Secondly, gaaljecel did benefit From jowhar. When it comes to numbers although jowhar is diverse their is more gaaljecel than abgaal in the city,ask anyone who has been their. They were overpowered by the maxamed dheere militia after a few days fighting early in the civil war.

Jowhar is diverse town i will say jareer r number one but politically speaking its abgaal town and Gaaljecel can't mess with them bc its connected to Xamar and the abgaal govt. gaaljecel dont make buuq in jowhar like they do in hiiraan and these gaaljecel are caloofi and barsane they r against the hiiraan gaaljecel speaker, his jijeele and udeejeen deputies and moving the parliament to Baladweyne. let us stop here this topic is not about Gaaljecel im just stating that abgaals moved from places like biyocade to Jowhar for shaqo in 1930s. mohamed dheere took over it politically.. hawadle and abgaal splitting Hirshabelle between them gaaljecel of Jowhar and jareer are backing Abgaal! you see gaaljecel has no one clan agenda and lower shabelle you have odiadde who r closer to garre and JL doqondiid. this is the reason why gaaljecel have no power. why maqaneey is against hiiraan and supporting jowhar?

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Fuck the British in general, I despise them:

[theyuusuf143]

What is wrong with these majeerten women. 92% of Somali bitches comes from them. And Even the remaining 2% is daaarod.

[sahal80]

Fuck the British in general, I despise them:

i learned from carabta how to differentiate between the colonizers for example their historical Ethiopia is Iran(not Israel) who had relations with the shah of iran. like the cadaan gumaysi spared Ethiopia from colonialism they did the same thing with Iran that why iran occupies alot of arab lands lake arabstan, river shatt al arab and two UAE islands. iran oil 100% comes from arabistan this is the only oil rich iranian province. they r shiica but very arab nationalists. it used to be sheikhdom like qatar and bahrain when the british arrived. the british modafuckers even ceded hawd to ethiopia in 1950s after koonfur voted for the return of italy in the trusteeship.




this is very important. italian claims were based on tribes they annexed bajuuni islands because they speak sawahili barawani not kikuya sawahili they said they r part of the banaadiri stock. why dolow is in the border? based on clans the somali side used to be part of gedo clans like rahanwayn and southren mxs who were claimed by italy same as banaadirs. lower jubba were part of british "Jubbaland" wich includes the NFD and without italy Kismayo woud have been part of NFD today. baladweyne was going to fall to ethiopia. Ethiopians reached Mustahil after they captured Olol diinles father who was leading the battle against them. the son contacted with italy and get weapons from them and then joined the italian invasion of Ethiopia. Fuck british empire!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oltre_Giuba

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=aOZ ... il&f=false

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Fuck the British in general, I despise them:

i learned from carabta how to differentiate between the colonizers for example their historical Ethiopia is Iran(not Israel) who had relations with the shah of iran. like the cadaan gumaysi spared Ethiopia from colonialism they did the same thing with Iran that why iran occupies alot of arab lands lake arabstan, river shatt al arab and two UAE islands. iran oil 100% comes from arabistan this is the only oil rich iranian province. they r shiica but very arab nationalists. it used to be sheikhdom like qatar and bahrain when the british arrived. the british modafuckers even ceded hawd to ethiopia in 1950s after koonfur voted for the return of italy in the trusteeship.




this is very important. italian claims were based on tribes they annexed bajuuni islands because they speak sawahili barawani not kikuya sawahili they said they r part of the banaadiri stock. why dolow is in the border? based on clans the somali side used to be part of gedo clans like rahanwayn and southren mxs who were claimed by italy same as banaadirs. lower jubba were part of british "Jubbaland" wich includes the NFD and without italy Kismayo woud have been part of NFD today. baladweyne was going to fall to ethiopia. Ethiopians reached Mustahil after they captured Olol diinles father who was leading the battle against them. the son contacted with italy and get weapons from them and then joined the italian invasion of Ethiopia. Fuck british empire!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oltre_Giuba

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=aOZ ... il&f=false

Sahal ingiris waa nijaas oo dhul booba

[Voltage]

It's a question about sustainability.

I have always found the transportation history of Somalia very disappointing but if you contextualize the infrastructure from a profit motive it makes sense.

For example, why didn't the colonists build better transportation for the Somali colonies in general?

It's not just the Italians, how come the British didn't in Somaliland? How come even in NFD where Kenya was a huge investment recipient the Somali region was neglected?

I am not even talking about trains, I am talking basic road connections. Why not even just along the two major river systems of Jubba and Shabelle which could have had possible impact on industry around the rivers?

I realized three things about Somalia and Somalis that made such investments unpromising then;

1. The nomadic/pastoralists culture (investment in the land requires people who actually stayed put and justified the the relevance of the project). If you build a train or truck stop, what's the point of that stop if the Somali group has moved 30 miles to another well?

2. The geography; Somalis were divided up badly in that they became long stretches of land without much width. Somaliland, Somalia, and NFD are basically ALL one or another form of rectangles...not square or circle...that means there is LESS area between two points but longer perimeter. Basically the train costs MORE to build (distance) with LESS potential profit (the tracks would serve less area) in a rectangular shaped land compared to a circle shaped land.

3. Finally VERY, VERY LOW POPULATION DENSITY. If this was the opposite, perhaps some daring entity would try but the reality is Somalis are a LAANGAAB people. Wallahi we are one of the most disproportionate People to Land groups in the world. Uganda has 3X the population of Somalia but it's basically about the size of Gedo region. LESS PEOPLE = LESS POTENTIAL CLIENTS = LESS CAPITAL = LESS POTENTIAL PROFIT.

Those 3 things make it extremely UNSUSTAINABLE, even today, to introduce trains to Somalia.

It would either go completely bankrupt as a huge loss or it would have to be heavily subsidized by the government...which again, is extremely unsustainable and and ineffective.

It is the same reason why trains are HUGELY PROFITABLE and in demand in Japan or Europe (say Netherland) because of compact smaller geography with high density (people x sq mile)...

...while trains are NOT VERY PROFITABLE and barely are relevant in the US and Canada because of long, stretched geography with very low density.

This is why the Villabruzi railroadnwas originally built by the Italian government only up to Afgooye (which today is basically part of Mogadishu). They just wanted to bring their profitable banana business in Afgooye quickly to Mog Port. The Duke personally paid to push the train a little more to Jowhar as vanity project (his village was the typical colonialist era unsustainable vanity project that failed all over the continent.

The Italians only even considered expanding it because of WAR and the need to link the two centers of their hegemony in East Africa (Mogadishu and Addis Ababa). It failed because they lost the war. Without the war, there was really no relevance to its existence so the British took it as war booty.

Honestly Somalia needs ROADS.

Many, many,many, MANY roads. Much more than it has now. Those roads need to be PAVED.

The geography and density is ideal for a highway system like the AUTOBAHN in Germany.

Also, Somalis have naturally and organically started to became more settled and integrated. Plus we have a huge diaspora.

Along with roads, SMALL AIRPORTS SHOULD BE DOTTED EVERYWHERE with huge number of SMALL, LOW FLYING REGIONAL AIRCRAFT.

Leave the international routes alone for now. Stop trying to compete with things like Turkish and Qatar and Ethiopia.

Big international carriers in the US like Alaska Airlines have regional subsidiaries like Horizon Air which focus on travel between the Pacific Northwest (Say from Washington State to Montana).

Somalis need these;



2 of these flying a day are more profitable than 1 weeks worth of those big bulky planes flying every 2-3 days.

One of those goes from southern tip of Somalia to Hargeisa or Djibouti making up to 10 stops a day on short haul travel

Picks up from Kismaayo
Stop in Baardhere where some get off and some get on
Stop in Baido where the same
Stop in Beledweyne where the same
Stop in Mog where the same
Stop in Abudwaq where the same
Then Galkacyo
Bosaso
Burco
Hargeisa

MEAnwhile the other one is starting from the north that day with main hubs not covered earlier

Picks up from Boorama
Goes to berbera
Then Las Anod
Then Garowe
Then Adado/Dhusamareb
Then Bulo Burte
Then Mog then
Barawe
Then Huddur
Finally in Beled-Hawa/Mandera

Those two lines cost less gas, provide more options and flexibility, and are agile.

That's the near future of sustainable Somali travel

More roads plus strategic air travel. Who knows Somalis may become so good st that they become Africa's domestic air travel kings

[Mustafee101]

What is wrong with these majeerten women. 92% of Somali bitches comes from them. And Even the remaining 2% is daaarod.

Clans that work for the European imperialists have the most love. iidoors work with the British while Hawiye and Majerteen work with the Italians and were sending their kids to catholic schools

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

What is wrong with these majeerten women. 92% of Somali bitches comes from them. And Even the remaining 2% is daaarod.

Clans that work for the European imperialists have the most love. iidoors work with the British while Hawiye and Majerteen work with the Italians and were sending their kids to catholic schools