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Ahmed madobe is recognized by beesha caalamka as the leader of JL but they support talks with his opposition aka isbadaldoon and the federal govt.

hadii qoorqoor Xaaf iyo mucaaradkii HG u tanaasuleen muxuu madoobe oga duwanyahay hadii Isbadal doonkii u tanaasulaan? it will make him the only president in the eyes of beesha caalamka!

N&N split has accelerated the surrender of JL for change after Kheyre office cut off their expenses. clearly he is in cahoots with Madoobe!

finally they were told by Farmaajo that there wont be JL elections bc any extension it will apply to JL.. so those who support extension donr know what is waiting for them!

it was seen Faemaajo happily walking with the two speakers like any extension is up to them! there will be a middleground solution like only the parliament getting extended and any lockdown could be up to 6 months wich is the remaining time before the parliamentary elections took place.

kheyre also talked about tax exemption for ganacsatada and asking for donor money during this period of time.





magalaada Naiorbi ee dalka Kenya kulan u dhaxeeyay madaxdii Jubbaland ee uu khilaafku ka dhaxeeyay. Kulankaas oo ay soo qaban qaabisay dowlada Kenya ayaa waxa ku kulmay Madaxweynaha Dowlad Goboleedka Jubbaland Axmad Madoode, Cabdinasir Seeraar iyo Cabdirashiid Xidig oo uu wehliyo gudoomiyahiisa Baarlamaanka Shiikh Dahir.

Kulanka oo wajigiisii horay socday mudo saacado ah ayaa waxa la isla gartay in la soo afjaro gabi ahaanba qilaafkii u dhaxeeyay madaxda, qilaafkaas oo ka dhashay doorashadii sanadkii hore ka dhacday Jubbaland. Dhanka kale heshiiskaan ayaa waxa soo dadajiyay Dowlada Fedaraalka oo ku balan furtay kooxda isbadal doonka iyaga oo ka waayay taageero dhaqaale iyo mid siyaasadeed si ay u sii wadaan dagaalka ka dhanka ah Axmad Madoobe.

Heshiiska la filayo in dhowrka cesho ee soo socda in lagu kala saxiixdo magalaada Nairobi ayaa waxa uu soo afjarayaa khilaafkii daba dheeraaday ee u dhaxeeyay madaxda Dowlad Goboleedka Jubblanad. Dhanka kale waxaa markii ugu horeeysay Jubbaland ka soo wajahayo Farmaajo iyo kooxaha uu ku shaqeeysto mucaarad xoogan oo hal aragti ka qaba Dowlada Fedaraalka, kaas oo ah in si buuxda loola dagaalo hogaanka Maxamed Cabdullahi Farmaajo.



Maalmaha soo socda ayaa la filayaa in heshiis buuxa ay labada dhinac wada qaataan iyada oo saxiixa heshiiskaas ay goobjoog ka ahaan doonaan qaar kamida wadamada taageera dowlada Fedaraalka. Saxiixa Heshiiskaan ka dib, Jubbaland waxa u bilaaban doonta waji cusub oo sahlaya in dadka deegaankaas ay helaan hogaan midaysan oo ka shaqaynaya danaha Jubbaland.

he was recognized long ago. This meeting is more about how to mount a collective effort by ogaden to capture bu'aale, after having diffused things in beledxaawo.

seeraar and xidig will be see the light, and concede to madoobe in the next 48 hours, then hopefully, project bu'aale shall commence immediately after that.

Caytame wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:13 pm he was recognized long ago. This meeting is more about how to mount a collective effort by ogaden to capture bu'aale, after having diffused things in beledxaawo.

seeraar and xidig will be see the light, and concede to madoobe in the next 48 hours, then hopefully, project bu'aale shall commence immediately after that.

yes i agree with you he was recognized long ago but even qoorqoor was told to reach out to his opponents before they can partake in his inauguration. in JL you had two other gacan kurimis presidents like Galmudug so their abdication ends power struggle and is big step forward for reconciliation. congrats!

sahal80 wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:52 pm

Caytame wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:13 pm he was recognized long ago. This meeting is more about how to mount a collective effort by ogaden to capture bu'aale, after having diffused things in beledxaawo.

seeraar and xidig will be see the light, and concede to madoobe in the next 48 hours, then hopefully, project bu'aale shall commence immediately after that.

yes i agree with you he was recognized long ago but even qoorqoor was told to reach out to his opponents before they can partake in his inauguration. in JL you had two other gacan kurimis presidents like Galmudug so their abdication ends power struggle and is big step forward for reconciliation. congrats!

So I see you edited. I read it earlier, but didn't really feel inspired to comment.

It is remarkable how indisposed I have become to anything you have to write---when I once held you in such esteem and found your contributions profoundly relevant and thought provoking.

Ironically, the more strongly I disagreed with you, the more I felt inclined to defend your right to free expression from those on my side of the fence who wanted to pick you apart.

Dude, you were actually honorable. You didn't engage in hate, display prejudice; you didn't engage in tribe warfare, you didn't insult people and throw personal invectives, and you always brought rational and even thought-provoking commentary----a fact made more remarkable by the state of your English then. Let's just say you have improved a lot.

Unfortunately today, there is no value or relevance beyond the expression of enmity and personal vindictiveness, which as sad as that is would be less cumbersome if you still had any spark for originality or creativity. That's the thing about negativity brought by bitterness; it consumes your spark until darkness descends and you radiate...nothing. You literally repeat the same two storylines----day in and day out, with no new information.

1. Kheyre is going to run and destroy Farmaajo's reelection.
2. Madoobe will win out and Jubbaland is the end of Marehan.

Forget that you literally talk about nothing else, not even about issues where you actually have direct equities.

Forget all that. Ok so on these two points, regardless of the petty and vindictive reason you obsess over it, what have you brought today that is new; what have you brought yesterday that is different from days ago?

Nothing.

I looked at your multiple topics about those two points today----and they were the same as the multiple topics on the same two points from yesterday---which was the same as the multiple topics on the same two points from the beginning of the week, etc etc etc.

For example, a topic on scenarios today----but there was absolutely no "scenerios" presented. I sort of scratched my head and read again. No scenarios presented. There was only an extreme, impractical, almost fantasy-like wish (not even a hope, but a wish) for a----tribal coronation?

I mean in a country which just got the endorsement for Debt Relief, signaling more than anything else accountability and the rule of law, you LITERALLY expressed the wishful fantasy that the opposition should "boycott" the election and that some mythical foreign hand summoned by your genie will "declare" a leader outside of a democratic election and that "CORONATION" will only be grounded in your tribal equity.

An IMPOSED figurehead without so much as even a cursory, albeit superficial, attempt at free Somali political expression?

Forget even the transition when Mahiga was King of Somalia; this wasn't even practical when we were an ACTUAL UN TRUSTEESHIP--- Somalis still had complete freedom to pick their Consiglio Territoriale.

I mean really dude? That's a scenario to you?

If that disturbed fantasy isn't of your making and someone actually convinced you that it is even remotely suggestible to us----then you need to tell them to stop smoking crack.

Period.

Mind you I am not even going to bother with the fact the only thing presented by that fantasy--- is the complete lack of confidence it suggests about their chances in the election.

When I said I became "indisposed" to your writing, you should understand that to be---

I look at your writings like the way an adult looks at a babies' "googoo gaagaah."

"Ohhh what's that there??? Silly you! Gujiguji gujiiiii"

It is unfortunate.

And that's before I even get to the shamelessness of using children less than 5 years old as cannon fodder for silly internet political grudges.

Alxamdulilah I have never had the character breakdown to ever resort to such a thing and never will.

the only line i adited was this "if you fix the leadership(OG reconciliation) the rest will follow suit. what has this got to do with him this topic is president xidig and president seeraar. in case he thinks the rest is about his clan i meant the rest of the problems can be solved.


what has this got to do with him this topic is president xidig and president seeraar ceding power to president Madobe.


if some is talking about Abgaal in hirshabelle is not my business i can only post my comment


i said i will talk about JL to divert attention away from my Farmaajo and Kheyre topics and here we go kkkkkk
i need to broaden my threads!

get me out of here before they gang up on me!

mission accomplished!

sahal80 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:26 am the only line i adited was this "if you fix the leadership(OG reconciliation) the rest will follow suit. what has this got to do with him this topic is president xidig and president seeraar

For a guy who shows an extraordinary propensity for indignation if I so much as respond, as a member of the forum, to your general political topics, even in a neutral capacity, ---and labels my response as "indirect" targeting of you----

----you show a similar level of extraordinary propensity to act surprised when your actual "indirect" provocations are noted.

sahal80 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:26 am

what has this got to do with him this topic is president xidig and president seeraar ceding power to president Madobe.


if some is talking about Abgaal in hirshabelle is not my business i can only post my comment


i said i will talk about JL to divert attention away from Farmaajo and Kheyre topics and here we go kkkkkk
i need to broaden my threads!

To be honest, whatever you want to do is your business man.

I do hope we get to see the old Sahal again sometime in the future though.

The old sahal that doesn't oppose MX politics ?

Voltage ninyaho adaaba ka daran. The sole purpose of the thread was to drag you in nothing else and you took the bait and noticed

Hence when he says mission accomplished. I saw the thread awhile ago and just laughed because I know this kind of became a personal FKD thing back and forth not analysis. If you left it alone it would have ended with the 1 reply from whoever got the niyad dis and it would have ended. Now you gave it credibility

STARKAST wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:06 am The old sahal that doesn't oppose MX politics ?

Murax wrote: Voltage ninyaho adaaba ka daran. The sole purpose of the thread was to drag you in nothing else and you took the bait and noticed

Hence when he says mission accomplished. I saw the thread awhile ago and just laughed because I know this kind of became a personal FKD thing back and forth not analysis. If you left it alone it would have ended with the 1 reply from whoever got the niyad dis and it would have ended. Now you gave it credibility

sxb these r my talking points you guys talk about "lafta gareens" but r against any one talking about JL and farmaajo. this guy has emotional and unstable personality disorder im done with him cause i dont like muran joogta ah and being suppressed. im only against people trolling in my threads but im not against their opinions on the topic. like he defends the corruption in baraawe though i havent opened the thread made by him he defended some corruption in my Baladweyne Riverine Project. my Ugaas has recently met with the planning minister and he apologized for the negligence saying that they sent it after it was too late but now is under reconsidaration and he said we will not wait from italy we will start it soon.. i didnt said to him stop talking about hirshabelle instead i debated with him. he made a thread about waare when he was new as model for other FMS leaders i told him this guy is not pro govt and the proof is that he joined golaha iskaashiga dawlad goboleedyada. just this week he fired hiiraan governor for meeting with Kheyre and some federal officials. he posted in my hirshabelle state house comparing mx to Abgaal and OG to hawadle kkkk he doesnt know hawadle lives from feerfeer to jowhar all the way on the westren banks of shabelle. ama adkaysi hore la hoow ama afeef danbe lahow. dont support farmaajo i will stop bring against him. dont support destabilizing the fms i will stop talking about JL. this topic is about madoobe and his OG rivals like i posted about qoorqoor and his HG rivals. he supports qoorqoor and against madoobe i can support who i wanna and be against who i wanna.

jusy like he defends the corruption baraawe he blindly defended the govt over this negligence in my own hiiraan topic no one said to him stick to your JL region

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2019/Nov/ ... osals.aspx

sahal80 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:29 am

STARKAST wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:06 am The old sahal that doesn't oppose MX politics ?

Murax wrote: Voltage ninyaho adaaba ka daran. The sole purpose of the thread was to drag you in nothing else and you took the bait and noticed

Hence when he says mission accomplished. I saw the thread awhile ago and just laughed because I know this kind of became a personal FKD thing back and forth not analysis. If you left it alone it would have ended with the 1 reply from whoever got the niyad dis and it would have ended. Now you gave it credibility

sxb these r my talking points you guys talk about "lafta gareens" but r against any one talking about JL and farmaajo. this guy has emotional and unstable personality disorder im done with him cause i dont like muran joogta ah and being suppressed. im only against people trolling in my threads but im not against their opinions on the topic. like he defends the corruption in baraawe though i havent opened the thread made by him he defended some corruption in my Baladweyne Riverine Project. my Ugaas has recently met with the planning minister and he apologized for the negligence saying that they sent it after it was too late but now is under reconsidaration and he said we will not wait from italy we will start it soon.. i didnt said to him stop talking about hirshabelle instead i debated with him. he made a thread about waare when he was new as model for other FMS leaders i told him this guy is not pro govt and the proof is that he joined golaha iskaashiga dawlad goboleedyada. just this week he fired hiiraan governor for meeting with Kheyre and some federal officials. he posted in my hirshabelle state house comparing mx to Abgaal and OG to hawadle kkkk he doesnt know hawadle lives from feerfeer to jowhar all the way on the westren banks of shabelle. ama adkaysi hore la hoow ama afeef danbe lahow. dont support farmaajo i will stop bring against him. dont support destabilizing the fms i will stop talking about JL. this topic is about madoobe and his OG rivals like i posted about qoorqoor and his HG rivals. he supports qoorqoor and against madoobe i can support who i wanna and be against who i wanna.

jusy like he defends the corruption baraawe he blindly defended the govt over this negligence in my own hiiraan topic no one said to him stick to your JL region

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2019/Nov/ ... osals.aspx

ama afeef hore lahow ama adkaysi dambe lahow, maahmaah culus

I agree with Murax's initial reply, could not have said it better myself, horta Sahal Xawadle are potential allies of MX, it just so happens Murursade are a bigger and more influential than Xawadle. I would love to see a MX president with Xawadle PM, but it is very unlikely Xawadle ever gets PM post.

sahal80 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:29 am

STARKAST wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:06 am The old sahal that doesn't oppose MX politics ?

Murax wrote: Voltage ninyaho adaaba ka daran. The sole purpose of the thread was to drag you in nothing else and you took the bait and noticed

Hence when he says mission accomplished. I saw the thread awhile ago and just laughed because I know this kind of became a personal FKD thing back and forth not analysis. If you left it alone it would have ended with the 1 reply from whoever got the niyad dis and it would have ended. Now you gave it credibility

sxb these r my talking points you guys talk about "lafta gareens" but r against any one talking about JL and farmaajo. this guy has emotional and unstable personality disorder im done with him cause i dont like muran joogta ah and being suppressed. im only against people trolling in my threads but im not against their opinions on the topic. like he defends the corruption in baraawe though i havent opened the thread made by him he defended some corruption in my Baladweyne Riverine Project. my Ugaas has recently met with the planning minister and he apologized for the negligence saying that they sent it after it was too late but now is under reconsidaration and he said we will not wait from italy we will start it soon.. i didnt said to him stop talking about hirshabelle instead i debated with him. he made a thread about waare when he was new as model for other FMS leaders i told him this guy is not pro govt and the proof is that he joined golaha iskaashiga dawlad goboleedyada. just this week he fired hiiraan governor for meeting with Kheyre and some federal officials. he posted in my hirshabelle state house comparing mx to Abgaal and OG to hawadle kkkk he doesnt know hawadle lives from feerfeer to jowhar all the way on the westren banks of shabelle. ama adkaysi hore la hoow ama afeef danbe lahow. dont support farmaajo i will stop bring against him. dont support destabilizing the fms i will stop talking about JL. this topic is about madoobe and his OG rivals like i posted about qoorqoor and his HG rivals. he supports qoorqoor and against madoobe i can support who i wanna and be against who i wanna.

jusy like he defends the corruption baraawe he blindly defended the govt over this negligence in my own hiiraan topic no one said to him stick to your JL region

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2019/Nov/ ... osals.aspx

ama afeef hore lahow ama adkaysi dambe lahow, maahmaah culus

I agree with Murax's initial reply, could not have said it better myself, horta Sahal Xawadle are potential allies of MX, it just so happens Murursade are a bigger and more influential than Xawadle. I would love to see a MX president with Xawadle PM, but it is very unlikely Xawadle ever gets PM post.

dalalos101 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:26 am

sahal80 wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:29 am

STARKAST wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:06 am The old sahal that doesn't oppose MX politics ?

Murax wrote: Voltage ninyaho adaaba ka daran. The sole purpose of the thread was to drag you in nothing else and you took the bait and noticed

Hence when he says mission accomplished. I saw the thread awhile ago and just laughed because I know this kind of became a personal FKD thing back and forth not analysis. If you left it alone it would have ended with the 1 reply from whoever got the niyad dis and it would have ended. Now you gave it credibility

sxb these r my talking points you guys talk about "lafta gareens" but r against any one talking about JL and farmaajo. this guy has emotional and unstable personality disorder im done with him cause i dont like muran joogta ah and being suppressed. im only against people trolling in my threads but im not against their opinions on the topic. like he defends the corruption in baraawe though i havent opened the thread made by him he defended some corruption in my Baladweyne Riverine Project. my Ugaas has recently met with the planning minister and he apologized for the negligence saying that they sent it after it was too late but now is under reconsidaration and he said we will not wait from italy we will start it soon.. i didnt said to him stop talking about hirshabelle instead i debated with him. he made a thread about waare when he was new as model for other FMS leaders i told him this guy is not pro govt and the proof is that he joined golaha iskaashiga dawlad goboleedyada. just this week he fired hiiraan governor for meeting with Kheyre and some federal officials. he posted in my hirshabelle state house comparing mx to Abgaal and OG to hawadle kkkk he doesnt know hawadle lives from feerfeer to jowhar all the way on the westren banks of shabelle. ama adkaysi hore la hoow ama afeef danbe lahow. dont support farmaajo i will stop bring against him. dont support destabilizing the fms i will stop talking about JL. this topic is about madoobe and his OG rivals like i posted about qoorqoor and his HG rivals. he supports qoorqoor and against madoobe i can support who i wanna and be against who i wanna.

jusy like he defends the corruption baraawe he blindly defended the govt over this negligence in my own hiiraan topic no one said to him stick to your JL region

https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2019/Nov/ ... osals.aspx

ama afeef hore lahow ama adkaysi dambe lahow, maahmaah culus

I agree with Murax's initial reply, could not have said it better myself, horta Sahal Xawadle are potential allies of MX, it just so happens Murursade are a bigger and more influential than Xawadle. I would love to see a MX president with Xawadle PM, but it is very unlikely Xawadle ever gets PM post.

gets or not Xawaadle pm is too strong for mx i dont think they can handle it bc they r too HAGists and Irirists. murursade though they r proper hawiye they r in a see of bigger hawiye subclans both in Xamar and Galgaduud so they r more tolerable to mx(some galguduudnimo feeling in this HG dominated region) besides it was not up to you it has more to do with murursade who lobbied for him as a pm and his wife.

look this map. murursade surrounded by duduble, ceyr saruur and waceysle. hawadle for them are an outlet to a non hiraab community that why r peaceful at eachother.

Deyniile was part of hodan wich is mainly HG same as Hawlwadaag thiis called western xamar and the east is mainly Abgaal.


http://www.coastweek.com/3848-mapgalmadug.JPG

jeez these guys are emotional.

sahal makes one post, and they gather around like lost puppies.

the guy can post whatever he wants waryaada.

@sahal continue your work, it clearly angers so many people with cuqdad.

Caytame wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:09 am jeez these guys are emotional.

sahal makes one post, and they gather around like lost puppies.

the guy can post whatever he wants waryaada.

@sahal continue your work, it clearly angers so many people with cuqdad.

at like lost puppies.

thanks sxb.