What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
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What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
April 5, 2020
As Somalia prepares for the historic “one-person-one vote” elections in 2021, Puntland and Jubaland states still maintain frosty relationship with the Federal Government of Somalia disapproving the new electoral bill signed in to law in January 2020. Both regional states cited ambiguity in the electoral code, and said that it doesn’t address many outstanding issues that should have been addressed in consultation with the federals states before signing the bill in to law. Are both states considering the clan-based formula in favor of a one person, one vote system? No one knows. They accuse the FGS of breaching the national constitution without clearly mentioning the articles that have been violated. Puntland administration boycotted the Somalia Partnership Forum that was held in Mogadishu in October 2019 following the snub of the FGS to invite Madobe of Jubaland who is not recognized by the FGS. Some people believe the differences between the Puntland leader and the president of the FGS might have started when the two competed for the top seat during the elections back in 2017.
Puntland Support for Jubaland
Puntland State was the first regional state to congratulate Ahmed Madobe, after his re-election in the controversial elections on 22nd August 2019 before Kenya joining them in the flow of congratulations. According to the Federal Government, the elections were unlawful and didn’t comply with the electoral processes it has set prior to the elections. Puntland also endorsed the elections in May 2013 in which Madobe was elected as the President of Jubaland. In my opinion, there are two reasons for this unprecedented wave of support the current administration of Puntland is providing Jubaland with;
Harti and Absame clans are both inhabitants of Jubaland and had history of rift pushing aside each other in the nineties during the civil war, but now seem to be coming closer to each other, a move that should be appreciated as it will enhance the peaceful co-existence and cooperation between the two clans. Puntland president also stated the same in the reception of Madobe in Bossaso in January 2020, saying we are the same people. Many of Kismayo inhabitants from Harti clan had moved to Puntland in the civil war era, but recently started to return back to Jubaland since it is drawing closer to stability. However, some consider this “tribalism” and coalition backed by foreign countries against other tribes which may spark clan clashes in the region.
Both states formed political alliance against the current FGS leaders in an effort to defeat them in the upcoming elections. The two leaders met in Nairobi in January 2020 along with other political veterans including Omar Abdirashid, the former Prime Minister of Somalia and Abdiweli Gas, the former president of Puntland and the general elections in Somalia dominated the agenda. The president of Puntland also advocated for Ahmed Madobe’s recognition and met with some ambassadors to Somalia, including the USA ambassador to Somalia, but to no avail. Puntland believes Madobe’s removal from power could weaken the alliance, hence the looming loss in the elections. As a follow up to the meeting in Nairobi, Madobe visited the city of Bossaso, Puntland and had talks with Puntland leader discussing issues of concern and agreeing to cooperate at the fronts of security and trade.
No plan B for Puntland
Puntland administration doesn’t have cooperation with the other three federal member states; Hirshabelle, South-West and Galmudug, all of which enjoy the support of the FGS. At the end of the Puntland’s consultative meeting in March 2020, controversial statements were made labeling these three states as FGS-dependent states. The consultative meeting itself was unproductive and the outcome was contentious as no common understanding was reached. Puntland elders having seen the uncertainty the region is creeping into, advised the president to visit Mogadishu and sort out the differences with the FGS leaders. Ironically, Puntland president has once again called for national consultative meeting countrywide, despite the failure of the previous national consultative meeting held in Garowe in May 2019. There is no guarantee the coalition of Puntland and Jubaland together with the opposition parties in Mogadishu would be able to defeat the ruling party. So, what is the plan B for Puntalnd?
Ahmed Madobe in Jubaland
Ahmed Madobe became the president of Jubaland eight (8) years ago with no experience in building government institutions as he was grateful to the support of Kenya and Ethiopia that installed him in Kismayo. During these eight years, his administration remained only in Kismayo and couldn’t secure the whole territories of Jubaland. Elite people were either arrested or killed including elders and clan clash incidents were on the increase. Madobe is grappling with an imbalanced and untrained army and is overly reliant on the funds received from foreign countries which are used for political expenses rather than paying the salaries of the army on a regular basis. His administration is so weak that it is even unable to intervene and stop the bloodshed among the warring clans in the outskirts of Kismayo. It is now clear for every person that Madobe is not fit for the job in Jubaland and his future is in the dark. It is also believed Madobe’s blind support to the government of Kenya could cost dear for Somalia in the maritime dispute. His dictatorship character and hindrance of the federal system throughout these years would be remembered for pushing him decisively towards the exit door.
The way forward
As Puntland’s continuous support of Jubaland may fuel more political unrests, the FGS is required to do much more in this regard. The FGS should remove Madobe from power in the near future before June 2020 when the ICJ is expected to reach a decision over the maritime dispute with Kenya. On the other hand, the FGS should work on enhancing the bilateral relationship with Puntland soonest, considering it the oldest regional state, and its cooperation is vital for the unity of Somalia. The FGS is also ought to sit with the opposition parties and engage talks with them to reach consensus for the smooth happening of the upcoming elections. Should Puntland and Jubaland prove to be difficult to deal with, areas outside both states should be designated for the voters of both regions to cast their votes in the upcoming elections.
By: Nasrudin Mohamed Ahmed
As Somalia prepares for the historic “one-person-one vote” elections in 2021, Puntland and Jubaland states still maintain frosty relationship with the Federal Government of Somalia disapproving the new electoral bill signed in to law in January 2020. Both regional states cited ambiguity in the electoral code, and said that it doesn’t address many outstanding issues that should have been addressed in consultation with the federals states before signing the bill in to law. Are both states considering the clan-based formula in favor of a one person, one vote system? No one knows. They accuse the FGS of breaching the national constitution without clearly mentioning the articles that have been violated. Puntland administration boycotted the Somalia Partnership Forum that was held in Mogadishu in October 2019 following the snub of the FGS to invite Madobe of Jubaland who is not recognized by the FGS. Some people believe the differences between the Puntland leader and the president of the FGS might have started when the two competed for the top seat during the elections back in 2017.
Puntland Support for Jubaland
Puntland State was the first regional state to congratulate Ahmed Madobe, after his re-election in the controversial elections on 22nd August 2019 before Kenya joining them in the flow of congratulations. According to the Federal Government, the elections were unlawful and didn’t comply with the electoral processes it has set prior to the elections. Puntland also endorsed the elections in May 2013 in which Madobe was elected as the President of Jubaland. In my opinion, there are two reasons for this unprecedented wave of support the current administration of Puntland is providing Jubaland with;
Harti and Absame clans are both inhabitants of Jubaland and had history of rift pushing aside each other in the nineties during the civil war, but now seem to be coming closer to each other, a move that should be appreciated as it will enhance the peaceful co-existence and cooperation between the two clans. Puntland president also stated the same in the reception of Madobe in Bossaso in January 2020, saying we are the same people. Many of Kismayo inhabitants from Harti clan had moved to Puntland in the civil war era, but recently started to return back to Jubaland since it is drawing closer to stability. However, some consider this “tribalism” and coalition backed by foreign countries against other tribes which may spark clan clashes in the region.
Both states formed political alliance against the current FGS leaders in an effort to defeat them in the upcoming elections. The two leaders met in Nairobi in January 2020 along with other political veterans including Omar Abdirashid, the former Prime Minister of Somalia and Abdiweli Gas, the former president of Puntland and the general elections in Somalia dominated the agenda. The president of Puntland also advocated for Ahmed Madobe’s recognition and met with some ambassadors to Somalia, including the USA ambassador to Somalia, but to no avail. Puntland believes Madobe’s removal from power could weaken the alliance, hence the looming loss in the elections. As a follow up to the meeting in Nairobi, Madobe visited the city of Bossaso, Puntland and had talks with Puntland leader discussing issues of concern and agreeing to cooperate at the fronts of security and trade.
No plan B for Puntland
Puntland administration doesn’t have cooperation with the other three federal member states; Hirshabelle, South-West and Galmudug, all of which enjoy the support of the FGS. At the end of the Puntland’s consultative meeting in March 2020, controversial statements were made labeling these three states as FGS-dependent states. The consultative meeting itself was unproductive and the outcome was contentious as no common understanding was reached. Puntland elders having seen the uncertainty the region is creeping into, advised the president to visit Mogadishu and sort out the differences with the FGS leaders. Ironically, Puntland president has once again called for national consultative meeting countrywide, despite the failure of the previous national consultative meeting held in Garowe in May 2019. There is no guarantee the coalition of Puntland and Jubaland together with the opposition parties in Mogadishu would be able to defeat the ruling party. So, what is the plan B for Puntalnd?
Ahmed Madobe in Jubaland
Ahmed Madobe became the president of Jubaland eight (8) years ago with no experience in building government institutions as he was grateful to the support of Kenya and Ethiopia that installed him in Kismayo. During these eight years, his administration remained only in Kismayo and couldn’t secure the whole territories of Jubaland. Elite people were either arrested or killed including elders and clan clash incidents were on the increase. Madobe is grappling with an imbalanced and untrained army and is overly reliant on the funds received from foreign countries which are used for political expenses rather than paying the salaries of the army on a regular basis. His administration is so weak that it is even unable to intervene and stop the bloodshed among the warring clans in the outskirts of Kismayo. It is now clear for every person that Madobe is not fit for the job in Jubaland and his future is in the dark. It is also believed Madobe’s blind support to the government of Kenya could cost dear for Somalia in the maritime dispute. His dictatorship character and hindrance of the federal system throughout these years would be remembered for pushing him decisively towards the exit door.
The way forward
As Puntland’s continuous support of Jubaland may fuel more political unrests, the FGS is required to do much more in this regard. The FGS should remove Madobe from power in the near future before June 2020 when the ICJ is expected to reach a decision over the maritime dispute with Kenya. On the other hand, the FGS should work on enhancing the bilateral relationship with Puntland soonest, considering it the oldest regional state, and its cooperation is vital for the unity of Somalia. The FGS is also ought to sit with the opposition parties and engage talks with them to reach consensus for the smooth happening of the upcoming elections. Should Puntland and Jubaland prove to be difficult to deal with, areas outside both states should be designated for the voters of both regions to cast their votes in the upcoming elections.
By: Nasrudin Mohamed Ahmed
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
Puntland is a functioning state.
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
Puntland is a functioning state.
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
On point sxb.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:43 am Puntland is a functioning state.
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
Only spoilers of peace would find it troubling to see two federal states cooperate.
The same spoilers who cannot even control a neighborhood in Mogadishu.
The Kismaayo obsession = Mareexaan xaaraan dhul-balaarsi agenda.
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
Nobody is against states cooperating but only the kind of cooperation that Puntland wants. It wans to use Jubbaland as partner in crime against the central gov but the problem is nobody signed up to be puntland shield other than Madoobe.
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
if puntland was a functioning state the somaliland flag would not be lying over laascaanod and SNM militia would not be 30 km outside of garowe. the fact that puntland is weak and not functioning is why you are defending them.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:43 am Puntland is a functioning state.
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
the somalidiid in you is scared of the strongest central government in the past 30 years and the changes happening in jubbaland is keeping you up at night.
you might fool some, but i know you are scared of a strong darod state in jubbaland and a strong darod state in puntland.
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
^ I don't fault you for questioning the qaladaan's motives booty clapping for Puntland, but truth to be told, Puntland despite its flaws, is the closest thing Skinnies in the Peninsula have to a functioning state.
Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
isn't it obvious?
If Jland falls, who do you think is next?
pland needs jubaland to win this war, for its survival.
If Jland falls, who do you think is next?
pland needs jubaland to win this war, for its survival.
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
Caytame wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:11 pm isn't it obvious?
If Jland falls, who do you think is next?
pland needs jubaland to win this war, for its survival.
I'm happy you know it's a war of survival. That's a big boy admission.

Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
dummy, i was referring to pland.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:12 pmCaytame wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:11 pm isn't it obvious?
If Jland falls, who do you think is next?
pland needs jubaland to win this war, for its survival.
I'm happy you know it's a war of survival. That's a big boy admission.
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you should go to school with your jaahil cuzzo bashe.
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
Caytame wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:14 pmdummy, i was referring to pland.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:12 pmCaytame wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:11 pm isn't it obvious?
If Jland falls, who do you think is next?
pland needs jubaland to win this war, for its survival.
I'm happy you know it's a war of survival. That's a big boy admission.
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you should go to school with your jaahil cuzzo bashe.![]()
I'm a more dangerous foe than my Siju cousin. I understand the game. Good luck to u sir.

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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
I don't mind strong daaarod State of jubaland under the long feet of ogaadeen. Unlike you They don't jump up and down for the downfall of other states. They put their house in order , and take neutral position when it comes to external issues. Mareexan are cancer to the Somali society , you are threat to everyone including your self. Ghetto is crying for development , instead of investing your land you are busy with trying to undermine All Somali Major clans.Nomand wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:35 amif puntland was a functioning state the somaliland flag would not be lying over laascaanod and SNM militia would not be 30 km outside of garowe. the fact that puntland is weak and not functioning is why you are defending them.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:43 am Puntland is a functioning state.
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
the somalidiid in you is scared of the strongest central government in the past 30 years and the changes happening in jubbaland is keeping you up at night.
you might fool some, but i know you are scared of a strong darod state in jubbaland and a strong darod state in puntland.
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
theyuusuf143 wrote: Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:02 amI don't mind strong daaarod State of jubaland under the long feet of ogaadeen. Unlike you They don't jump up and down for the downfall of other states. They put their house in order , and take neutral position when it comes to external issues. Mareexan are cancer to the Somali society , you are threat to everyone including your self. Ghetto is crying for development , instead of investing your land you are busy with trying to undermine All Somali Major clans.Nomand wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 9:35 amif puntland was a functioning state the somaliland flag would not be lying over laascaanod and SNM militia would not be 30 km outside of garowe. the fact that puntland is weak and not functioning is why you are defending them.theyuusuf143 wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:43 am Puntland is a functioning state.
TFG is not. The later should do it's homework first before messing up with puntland and it's jubaland colony. Why would puntland take orders from I guy who can't reach afgoye. Use common sense. An other hypocrisy is both farmaajo and madoobe are protected by foreign troops. What makes farmaajo dabadhilifnimo Halaal over the cagdheer mullah. I mean we can say they are both daarood traitors. But I don't understand why the mareexan traitor is acting clean, he is not .
the somalidiid in you is scared of the strongest central government in the past 30 years and the changes happening in jubbaland is keeping you up at night.
you might fool some, but i know you are scared of a strong darod state in jubbaland and a strong darod state in puntland.

i say NO to your ictraaf
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
You have no say . What so ever.
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Re: What is behind Puntland State’s continuous support for Jubbaland
kkkk
says the clown who just wrote this
"Unlike you They don't jump up and down for the downfall of other states."
if i have no say then why are you so triggered ?, you have chip on your shoulder about MX. MX is your boogyman and with a MX led Jubbaland your little triangle will be no more. as we will make sure no SNM flag flies anywhere near laascaanond.
you caring about who rules jubbaland really says it all. while no marehan gives a rats ass about which habar sits on villa hargeysa. think about that for a minute.
I SAY NO TO YOUR ICTRAAF
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