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UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:09 am qorqor niman ba meesha keenay oo dan gaar ah kuwato. He will be more loyal than waare jiis aka lugtagareen kkkk

Turbulence wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:01 am Who selects the ministers in a Maamul Goboleed in Somalia's strange version of federalism since there is no prime minister? The president I would assume? And do vice presidents have any power at all or are they ceremonial?

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:09 am qorqor niman ba meesha keenay oo dan gaar ah kuwato. He will be more loyal than waare jiis aka lugtagareen kkkk

What clan is Waare?

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:15 am

Turbulence wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:01 am Who selects the ministers in a Maamul Goboleed in Somalia's strange version of federalism since there is no prime minister? The president I would assume? And do vice presidents have any power at all or are they ceremonial?

UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:09 am qorqor niman ba meesha keenay oo dan gaar ah kuwato. He will be more loyal than waare jiis aka lugtagareen kkkk

What clan is Waare?

xawadle, even though he is a jiis when he's told to jump he says how high

sahal80 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:52 am markaad aragtid qof cadawgaada ahaa oo wadci tacbaan ah ku jiro waxaa la dhahaa اللهم لا شماتة ilaahow ma caynayno macnaha qofka kariim ka ah waa musaamix. aniga horta cadawgayga meeshaas ma joogaan im not one the side of saleebaan against wagardhac laakin marabo inaan ku shaactiraysto dadka wali "qoortagareen ku faanayo" ayagoo dadkoodii calanka itoobiya hoos galeen inaan la xisaabtamo. just waa cibro. shaanti aadan laheen dhaxan kaama celiyo. qoorqoor wuxuu Kheyre iyo mooge ku dhahay dadkaan waa PL proxy militias. waxaa ku tusinee inay Galaadi ku biireen haba degaan laakin waa deegaan mjka ethiopia oo PL ka ag dhaw waayo pl faroole position is with qoorqoor. aniga dagaal beeleed kuma faano this is just in relation with your "qoortagareen"

اللهم لا شماتة

هذه الجملة تشتهر على ألسنة الناس يقصدون بها عدم الفرح بالبلاء الذى نزل ببعضهم وأنا أعرفها بلفظ " اللهم لا شماته " .
وقد ورد عن النبى صلى الله عليه وسلم حديث ُُ ُ صحيح يأمرنا بالتعوذ من شماتة الأعداء .
ففى الصحيحين من حديث أبى هريرة رضي الله عنه عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال : { تعوذوا بالله من جهد البلاء , ودرك الشقاء , وسوء القضاء وشماتة الأعداء }.

ومنه قول بعض الشعراء :

إذا ما الدهر جر على أناس حوادثــــه أنـــــاخ بآخــــرينا
فقل للشامتين بنا أفيـــقوا سيلقى الشامتون كما لقينا

والواجب على الإنسان أن يتنزه عن الشماتة ببلاء إخوانه وليعلم أنها سنة كونية فمن شمت بأخيه نال نفس الجزاء ويشتهر عند بعض الخطباء قولهم كما تدين تدان .
والشماتة فيها من معنى الذل مايصعب على الإنسان أن يتحمله قال بعض


Qoorqoor iyo xaaf iskuma dhawa. xaaf waa nin hooyadiis leelkase daarood tahay qoorqoorna waa nin qabiil USC mentality ah leh waxaa keensadey murursade oo xaaskiisa tahay hadana eaaba yaaban yihiin waxa meesha ka socda cause speakerkii waaba qarsoomay HG lee meesha ka muuqata kkk

just wait until he forms his cabinet guutaale iyo dr culusow iyo abkeey mucaarad . empowering saleebaan at the expense of ceyr will centralize HG power.

Righteous wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:56 am Sahal

So QoorQoor is claiming Wagerdhac are Puntland proxy militias? Does he want to use this as an excuse to attack Puntland? Since this is a USC goal (taking all of Mudug)
Wagerdhac in Galgaduud have nothing to do with PL, They only have one village/hamlet called Saaxo in the outskirts of Galdogob district.


Or is QoorQoor allied with all the opposition groups from Qoslaaye/Shariif/CCS/Gaas etc?

sahal80 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:19 am
sxb i dont wanna go deep down in this issue cause it will make me side with one group but qoorqoor sold to N&N the idea that this war is a proxy war between Galmudug and PL and r the new ahlussuna but its not public cause PL is ok with him so. this is what pro N&N sources r saying that "in PL inay dagaalka qabiilaynaso in anticipation of N&N using qoorqoor so the war could spread to up to sool and sanaag via dolo and wardheer"

HG now and Saleebaan specially are armed to the teeth with hub culus oo nomadska heesan "to fight al shabaab in camaara"

Righteous wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:22 am

sahal80 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:19 am
sxb i dont wanna go deep down in this issue cause it will make me side with one group but qoorqoor sold to N&N the idea that this war is a proxy war between Galmudug and PL and r the new ahlussuna but its not public cause PL is ok with him so. this is what pro N&N sources r saying that "in PL inay dagaalka qabiilaynaso in anticipation of N&N using qoorqoor so the war could spread to up to sool and sanaag via dolo and wardheer"

HG now and Saleebaan specially are armed to the teeth with hub culus oo nomadska heesan "to fight al shabaab in camaara"

Sahal
I see sxb so QoorQoor is playing both sides, N&N so he can get military backing against PL and he is also working the opposition.
I think he is waiting to see who wins the next election so that he can fully join one side.

sahal80 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:30 am
exactly that is his game but im sure he wont start with PL. i dont think he is after military backing against PL bc the latter is playing role in Galmudug reconciliation they have friends like xaaf ccshakur oo lacagta ccc u soo marto. saleebaan r feeling dawlanimo and being impowered and using this for deegaameysi by arming their nomads


there is mudaharaad against qoorqoor in caabudwaaq. carabta waxay dhahaan السحر انقلب على الساحر. when magic goes wrong. literally marka sixirka ku gadoomo saaxirka!

Righteous wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:32 am

sahal80 wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:30 am
exactly that is his game but im sure he wont start with PL. i dont think he is after military backing against PL bc the latter is playing role in Galmudug reconciliation they have friends like xaaf ccshakur oo lacagta ccc u soo marto. saleebaan r feeling dawlanimo and being impowered and using this for deegaameysi by arming their nomads


there is mudaharaad against qoorqoor in caabudwaaq. carabta waxay dhahaan السحر انقلب على الساحر. when magic goes wrong. literally marka sixirka ku gadoomo saaxirka!

Spot on sxb
Marehan really messed up with Farmaajo, they tried to abuse his power to place themselves in certain position and in doing so no other clan trusts them. Now they are stuck in Galmudug with hostile HG and distrusted in Jubbaland. Had they sat back and just focused on development projects they would have allies instead of enemies.
They even gained a seat with LaftaGareen in South West over native Harti tribes. It's like they are hell bent on creating enemies everywhere