Kheyre has the chance of becoming an interim president

[sahal80]

he pushes for extending only corrunt mps to an interim president. judging by his coming party that will include all the HAG mps and ministers and 5.4. he already had 70 mps in his cabinet i predict that he will lead the first round if the current parliament votes and has a chance to defeat his competent unless he is very popular new face. most of opposition support this option besides the FMs. there is more a secret option sponsored by AU(Ethiopia) and Turkey to make a deal between the UPD party and Farmaajo where the former gets the pm. however Farmaajo fears of them as they have a plan to take over the govt and form a pro Hassan Sh parliament so he can return to power after two years. Ccsh and sharif are against this strongly. im not saying hassan sh has accepted it but members of his party like fiqi and odowaa and mahad salaad who r after wasiir jego r enthusiastic about this idea. this is called "an extension with conditions" and is an AU initiative and the agreement to be signed in Turkey. in this way both Ethiopia and Turkey will secure their interests in Mogadishu.


1st Option- a two year interim government

1. The term of both legislative houses shall be extended for a period of no more than two years.

2. The lower and upper house shall elect new interim leadership by Nov. 2020. Incumbent parliamentary leadership will not participate the leadership competition.

3. Both Houses shall elect a two-year term President by January 2021 with agreed terms of mandates in reference to the provisional constitution.

4. The elected interim President after thorough consultations with opposition forces shall appoint a new interim two year term Prime Minister who will have the mandate of appointing experienced technocrat Council of Ministers. The features and special tasks of new Council of Ministers will include among other things:

a) No member of the federal parliament will be member of the two year term interim cabinet. And no member of the two year interim cabinet will participate the 2022/2023 election and first two years of the elected government.

b) Implementation of Genuine National Reconciliation process in the context of the Completion of Provisional Constitution.

c) Efficiently carrying out the regular Government businesses, including effective cooperation between federal government and federal member states, implementation of the Heavily Indebted Debt Poor Countries Agreement concluded with the International national institutions (IFI), and National Security Architecture Reform.

d) Transparent, shared, complete preparation of free and fair elections 2022/2023 before the end of 2021 through the cooperation of all political Somali and International stakeholders.

e) No major foreign and domestic policy decisions that will complicate, distract, and disrupt the priorities of the interim federal government will be taken within the 2 year term.

f) All Security forces outside the provisional Constitution will be integrated into the federal and State Security forces.

g) All Commanders of the Federal Security Institutions –Police, National Intelligence Service (NISA), and Somali National Army will be removed from office as part of the approval of the option.

h) The Prime Minister will ensure the discipline and performance of the council of ministers in accordance with the rule of law and good governance practices.

2nd Option- President remains in office for 6 months extension

1. The term of both the houses of the federal parliament with their leadership and the President will be extended for a period no more than 6 months on the following conditions:

I. The Prime Minister and cabinet through a consultation process among all stakeholders – the federal President, Presidents of the federal member states, and leadership of the two chambers of the federal parliament, the opposition parties, the civil society, and international partners. The Prime Minister will have the mandate to prepare the general election.

II. The federal president, the leaders of the federal parliament, and presidents of the federal member states will commit to support the government to fulfill their special responsibilities agreed for that 6 months extension .

Under this 6 month extension the government will have following features and priorities among other things:

a) Prepare implementable election procedures and process in the context of the Provisional Constitution.

b) Efficiently carrying out the regular Government businesses, including effective cooperation between federal government and federal member states, implementation of the Heavily Indebted Debt Poor Countries Agreement concluded with the International national institutions (IFI), National Security Architecture Reform.

c) Transparent, shared, complete preparation of free and fair elections through the cooperation of all political Somali and International stakeholders.

d) No major foreign and domestic policy decisions that will complicate, distract, and disrupt the priorities of the interim federal government will be taken within the 6 month term process

e) All Security forces outside the provisional Constitution will be integrated in the Federal and State Security forces.

f) All Commanders of the Federal Security Institutions –Police, national intelligence service, and Somali national army will be removed from office as part of the approval of the Option.

g) The Prime Minister will ensure the discipline and performance of the council of ministers in accordance with the rule of law and good governance practices.

The Somali Atlantic Council proposes the above highlighted options to prevent guaranteed political violence by the end of the legitimacy of the federal government term in office without free and fair election and to preserve peace, unity and democracy in Somalia as an essential element for Somalia to be an honourable and respected member of the international community. The Members of the Council invite and encourage all Somali politicians, activists, and intellectuals as well as international partners to study the proposed options in their merits and demerits for the collective interest of the Somali people and international community.

Somali Atlantic Council
Abdiaziz Hassan Giyaajo Amalo
Ahmed Sabrie Siad
Ahmed Omar Gagaale
Yasmin Ahmed Sheikh
Said Jama
Abdiaziz Salah

[Murax]

Sahal,

I disagree with some of the particulars but just from a pure realism perspective I said before that there is simply no election by Feb 2021, period. But my thread was hijacked and it became a shyt show. Why? Because I’m Marexaan I guess, so me making a thread like that seems like I’m supporting Marexaan usurping power. Anyways kabood.


You have to go back to the very beginning Farmaajo waxaa lugu dhahay ninkaan ka har meel iska dhig etc. Farmaajo didn’t. To make things even more interesting is be started making power moves in Xamar and nationally. Very bold moves and he even wuxuu soo kaxeeystay some supporters from the bigger qabiilo.


Another difference is Farmaajo was extremely diplomatic, careful in Xamar affairs. Even Marexaan Xildhibaano under Xassan Sh, Shariif they were eating good, regular shaxaad, laaluush etc. under Farmaajo they got nothing and joke ‘Allahiyo Madaxweyne Marexaan ha noo keenin mar danbe’. But just like how Abgal out of xishood will still support Xassan Sh, Shariif, Marexaan mps will support Farmaajo too.


Lakin Kheyre asaga unlike Farmaajo who treads carefully in Xamar, he doesn’t tread carefully because he feels Xamar is HIS deegan too. Kheyre can afford inu soo dhaweeysto dadkiis, and not be so diplomatic like Farmaajo because Kheyre asaga Xamar marti ku maaha. Another thing that I learned about Murusade that I didn’t know before is they have a lot of $$$, businessmen etc so he has that going for him. They are part of ganacsatada Xamar as well.

Finally what I can tell you for sure is Kheyre does not trust the opposition at all. Why? Many of these people wanted him out, or not to be appointed to begin with, and he feels like he sees right through them. I‘m not saying its impossible he will not run and join the opposition but I doubt it. If wrong I promise I will acknowledge.

[sahal80]

ok waa inoo balan

Kheyre iyo Farmaajo waa ukala dhamaatey sources waxaan haysanaa caan ah oo xafiiska kheyre ka shaqeeya oo uuloleeynaya hada laakin meesheegaayo magiciise to protect my sources

[Voltage]

So we are just going to act like "Somali Atlantic Council" is a real thing now?

Cuz I googled that name and SomaliA Atlantic Council as well and I aint find a blip...

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

So we are just going to act like "Somali Atlantic Council" is a real thing now?

Cuz I googled that name and SomaliA Atlantic Council as well and I aint find a blip...

[sahal80]

this guy mistakes the US atlantic one for this Somali one. i used to read abukar arman articles in the american one they also write about the arabs.

aniga pointga lee ka hadlayaa not for what this group r saying. for example i posted the parliament option in this thread bring it on i also posted cccsh supporting this option and so the FMS do and sh sharif. i never ruled out term extension since this govt introduced sharciga doorashada there is an article that suggests for extension but i believe only it can happen in one way and that is if some powershsring agreement takes place between the opposition who matter in Xamar and Farmaajo. beesha caalamka doesnt give a fuck about any excuse the priority is giving to stability and smooth transition of power. so we have been hearing about HG pm for the transition there was talk about guuleed and this but i finally heard about the midget sacad Guy who is agaasimaha madaxtooyada. recently aman ewho is the head of the policy unit at AU(African union on behalf of ethiopia) has been campaigning in beesha caalamka for what he calls conditional extenstion wich is to give the pm to the mucaarad so Turkey (as part of beesha caalamka) suggests such agreement yo yake place in Turkey. Faemaajo has no kalsooni and fears from a mucaarad pm so he wants like some fake mucaarad or front organisation so abdi nuur sh some hawadle ex wasiir is being contacting big mucaarad guys suggesting some middleground personality and they said no. on the other side kheyre wing are pushing for the current parliament voting and that he will include the HG mucaarad into his cabinet if elected as interim president and pushes some HG siyaasiyiin into Galmudug.


these r my old threads on extension
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=399275

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=400001




ccsh supporting parliament option

[sahal80]

there is no smoke without fire. Khadije diiriye accuses another pm being behind this but it supports my theory on kheyre option. Mursal sounds like he wants gorgortan as he refuses parliament extension bc if that happens current parliament will elect interim speaker and interim president. Mursal refuses postponing the parliament session in may bc it will give excuses to those who want extension. al khulaasa meeshan sadex agendaa ka socda allow isku jabi dibiyaasha!

[sahal80]

im hearing khadiijo is behind the distributed leaflet "bc Farmaajo and Fahad wanna exclude her from the next parliament". she just blames another mp to divert attention away from herself.