I have decided to drop the 1956/SYL Ciise branch issue, but if our HW brothers are interested, privately I will share.

[Voltage]

The questions are real and the information supports this.

However, as I had told my fellow Gedo section kin before, I think things have changed with regards to how we use information;

Guys, this isn't the old days where our little remote message boards was invisible and insular.

I write a topic (RANDOMLY MIND YOU) about something that didn't take me more than a second without any serious thought to it---


---and literally the NEXT DAY Abdirahman Abdishakur is weaponizing it on Twitter to thousands of Somalis after a conduit for NEGATIVE INFORMATION WARFARE (Hi Mr. Roble from Wardheernews) "stole" it and completely hijacked it.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6&t=399263

Secondly, I have never shared this because the only reason to have done so would be "faan," but I will share it now for relevance.

I have come multiple instances where information that I have sourced was used to affect equity in Somalia.

I mean I am completely irrelevant to how the information was used, but....the information was SOURCED by me.

...

This is why I have said a lot of times recently that I will "post" something, but I continue to drag my feet.

That's because I have started to understand, ESPECIALLY NOW WITH EVEN YOUR SOMALI GRANDPA AND GRANDMA ON TWITTER ----that with great power, comes great responsibility.

...

We have to be careful about how we use information going forward.

I have decided it can't be the old reckless way of responding to invisible nobody in a remote forum.

...

So guys let's be more judicious about how to use information within the Somalia reconciliation context.

There is a guy on here who puts "Bon/Boon Marehan" into search engines and copies and pastes gazillion pointless hits from that.

That guy is harmless. It is literally PG next to my ability to intrinsically know how to weaponize information.

So as you can (or can't) understand, an ability to be aware of my ability to weaponize information probably means my self-awareness is developed enough to question the ETHICAL value of my contribution to information warfare, even sub-consciously (as I have taken to stopping myself from hitting "send" after every post and instead come back to it for a second look).

With regards to the SYL information or 1956 elections, it may OR MAY NOT be important, the purpose of my pointing it out was exactly that it was a PROBLEM THAT NEEDED ADDRESSING.

However, I have felt reluctant EVEN TO POST the problem because of the possibility that it would be immediately spread across the internet by way of twitter and it would result in nothing but contribution to division and discord.

I have also realized that no matter how much I may like to think we all are equal to our post-colonial heroes, that everyone's guy is more THEIR GUY if they are clansmen.

So even innocently pointing out something can be used to affect clan relations depending on the blood ties involved.

In any case, I have not been able to find an answer to my question.

This means the question is still deserving of an answer (and that answer could very well possibly be INNOCENT---the point is I need an answer myself).

If the HW brothers on this forum are able to agree on 1 person, I am willing to share that information in the hopes either they might be privy to an answer or are able to forward it to someone like Mohamed Haji Ingiriis provide an answer.

I would like to share it the most with Abdiwahab but Sahal seems to be more connected on the ground, but in any case it's up to you guys to agree and forward 1 person.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

What have I missed?

[Osob101]

What have I missed?

You didn’t miss anything of value, just the usual inferiority complex of our Italian Cheese brother aka Voltage who will write pages and pages of bla bla bla we are this and that. pop o

[Samatalis249]

In terms of these types of forums not being obscure anymore you’re absolutly correct and it’s all because of Farmajo. Since he got elected in 2017 he brought social media trolls and embedded them in young diaspora Somali twitter. Basically all young Somalis on twitter are well versed in qabil politics and are borderline facist tribalists. That’s how I ended up on forums like this.

The works of x.playa do the rounds on twitter on a dialy basis most youths believe darwish shit is all propaganda now on a cross qabil basis. Inshallah Mohamed xaji ingiriis will take the place of aw jamaac in the next phase of somalia. With the qalin things will be corrected.

By far darood are the most organised with their propaganda but the lag time is catching up now and yall are about to be karbashed.

[Voltage]

What have I missed?

Your friend Sahal posted some kindergarten level stuff about history using images I actually happened to introduce.

Specifically something about Sh Ali Jimcaale picked by Abdullahi Ciise for first Trusteeship governemnt minister in 1956.

Now the irony is Sahal, being very new to history as I have realized, wasn't even aware of using the elections in trusteeship government on a CLAN against Marehan was sort of ironic....considering 10+ clan parties even ran and ONLY Marehan won on a clan basis under their own name.

The Marehan of Lugh specifically ran under the Marehan Union Party after the SYL fielded a weak outside candidate against Hizbia Digil and Mirifle which Marehan considered a blatantly tribal party (this before later rehabilitation as a non-tribal party).

The Marehan Union candidate defeated both SYL and HDM in Lugh in the ONLY clan victory out of 10 clan parties.

So I wanted to get historical artifacts to laugh at him for the irony like this



But because I am so much more aware of context and have been surfing through a lot of the Italian side recently, my original understanding of the Somali and outside (English language) perspectives coalesced into noticing something I have never noticed before in the 1953-1958 period and in which NO ONE has ever addressed.

They all skip over it like matte of fact, but with the details it is like "ok, wait a minute here....."

[Voltage]

In terms of these types of forums not being obscure anymore you’re absolutly correct and it’s all because of Farmajo. Since he got elected in 2017 he brought social media trolls and embedded them in young diaspora Somali twitter. Basically all young Somalis on twitter are well versed in qabil politics and are borderline facist tribalists. That’s how I ended up on forums like this.

The works of x.playa do the rounds on twitter on a dialy basis most youths believe darwish shit is all propaganda now on a cross qabil basis. Inshallah Mohamed xaji ingiriis will take the place of aw jamaac in the next phase of somalia. With the qalin things will be corrected.

By far darood are the most organised with their propaganda but the lag time is catching up now and yall are about to be karbashed.

Please. Stop the cuqdad. Thank you.

Also, I am a Farmaajo supporter and a FAQASH to my lowest juffo as you understand it.

Yet still, the level of sensitivity and awareness I show this even being MINDFUL ABOUT POINTING OUT THE "QUESTION" is something you would never (at least I think) be able to show towards my clan.

Now I may be troll extraordinaire and have slung my fair share of online dirt, but at the same time I have learned to practice the level of humility required to give me the strength to overcome the weakness of my ego.

I hope you do too.

As for Mohamed Haji Ingiriis. He ruined the impact he COULD have had when he decided to be an activist as opposed to a historian.

Have you ever been to school dude?

The only difference between a HISTORIAN and a PROPAGANDIST is objectivity.

O-B-J-E-C-T-I-V-I-T-Y.

He can write a million books and you can go to a million of his lectures.

But I guarantee you EVEN IN A DEVELOPED SOMALIA WITH FREE AND OPEN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, I can't see that guy even giving a SINGLE LECTURE without a substantial or may be even a plurality or possibly even a majority of students boycotting and protesting.

Even if JUST the Darod students boycott, he has lost his mantle to teach.

That's what happens when Mohamed Haji Ingiriiis decided to wage partisan tribal tinted warfare IN THE SINGLE MOST FRACTURED SOCIETY ON EARTH...


...REQUIRING EXTRAORDINARY LEVEL OF DELICACY AND SENSITIVITY with regards to the academic extrapolation of political events.

More than anything and as a person who loves history as a hobby, I regrey what Mohamed Haji Ingiriis has done to himself and to the study of history in our culture where even INTELLECTUALISM has fallen victim to Somali clan warfare.

Waan ka xumahay wallahi.

[juelz]

What did the young pHD holder Mohamed ingriis do this time.

[Voltage]

What have I missed?

You didn’t miss anything of value, just the usual inferiority complex of our Italian Cheese brother aka Voltage who will write pages and pages of bla bla bla we are this and that. pop o

You know Osob, if I was Abgaal wallahi waxaad iga jeclaan lahayd majirto.


There is no inferiority complex sweetheart (lol, here comes the kab). Even pointing this out--- I realized after a second look---is a form of "faan" (for which I gain nothing tangible I told myself), but I intrinsically used to feel I was superior to other Somalis. I am not going to extrapolate or drag it on which is again a futher manifestation of that negativity---but even the way I engage people and even the sensitivity I show on this subject came from me having the luck to actively practice humility---which has taught me the meaning of equity.

I have on many occasions here remarked on the TUMAAL as the greatest example of the inequities in Somali culture. He is the single most skilled Somali in out natural element. He is the one that would be picked from among all of our ancestors if a another nation was getting picks----yet in the land of the illiterate nomadic Somalis, parasites of the camel for survival, the most skilled of us was made the most disenfranchised.

If I came from the highest form of misplaced superiority/hubris that even affected equities AMONG NOMADIC Somalis to this level of humility to condemn my own ancestors for the mistreatment wrought on the most disenfranchised whom I now identify as having been SUPERIOR in development and skill---what is but the meaning of superior or inferiority?

I assure you they are irrelevant where I stand. I have literally broken apart the entire boundaries limiting us as Somalis.

However, with regards to contesting and debating and exchanging ideas which is what I do when I see something I disagree with....I think you should learn to embrace openness and freedom of expression.

Just because I CONTEST something doesn't mean I am ATTACKING.

Societies are free because we can be free to disagree and say why.

I will never disagree without telling you WHY.

You should learn to not only expect it but even REQUIRE it.

[Samatalis249]

In terms of these types of forums not being obscure anymore you’re absolutly correct and it’s all because of Farmajo. Since he got elected in 2017 he brought social media trolls and embedded them in young diaspora Somali twitter. Basically all young Somalis on twitter are well versed in qabil politics and are borderline facist tribalists. That’s how I ended up on forums like this.

The works of x.playa do the rounds on twitter on a dialy basis most youths believe darwish shit is all propaganda now on a cross qabil basis. Inshallah Mohamed xaji ingiriis will take the place of aw jamaac in the next phase of somalia. With the qalin things will be corrected.

By far darood are the most organised with their propaganda but the lag time is catching up now and yall are about to be karbashed.

Please. Stop the cuqdad. Thank you.

Also, I am a Farmaajo supporter and a FAQASH to my lowest juffo as you understand it.

Yet still, the level of sensitivity and awareness I show this even being MINDFUL ABOUT POINTING OUT THE "QUESTION" is something you would never (at least I think) be able to show towards my clan.

Now I may be troll extraordinaire and have slung my fair share of online dirt, but at the same time I have learned to practice the level of humility required to give me the strength to overcome the weakness of my ego.

I hope you do too.

As for Mohamed Haji Ingiriis. He ruined the impact he COULD have had when he decided to be an activist as opposed to a historian.

Have you ever been to school dude?

The only difference between a HISTORIAN and a PROPAGANDIST is objectivity.

O-B-J-E-C-T-I-V-I-T-Y.

He can write a million books and you can go to a million of his lectures.

But I guarantee you EVEN IN A DEVELOPED SOMALIA WITH FREE AND OPEN EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM, I can't see that guy even giving a SINGLE LECTURE without a substantial or may be even a plurality or possibly even a majority of students boycotting and protesting.

Even if JUST the Darod students boycott, he has lost his mantle to teach.

That's what happens when Mohamed Haji Ingiriiis decided to wage partisan tribal tinted warfare IN THE SINGLE MOST FRACTURED SOCIETY ON EARTH...


...REQUIRING EXTRAORDINARY LEVEL OF DELICACY AND SENSITIVITY with regards to the academic extrapolation of political events.

More than anything and as a person who loves history as a hobby, I regrey what Mohamed Haji Ingiriis has done to himself and to the study of history in our culture where even INTELLECTUALISM has fallen victim to Somali clan warfare.

Waan ka xumahay wallahi.

Lmao so aw Jamaac is a objective historian and ingiriis is a tribal troll kkkkkkk. Darood make up to 20% of the Somali population he will do lectures in the big unis in hargeisa amood Mogadishu and he will be employed by the gov history department. His books all use sources.

The societal fracture already happened because of aw Jamaac and afweyne get with the programme. Books that will be debunking aw jamaac and revealing the real history will be all over libraries and museums.

All of this shit is caused by Daroods and when the kitchen gets hot you wanna talk like a peace maker. Even the picture of the naked habar awal women has been exposed all over twitter a a photo shop and the real source with the Ogaden women is doing the rounds.

There’s a girl on twitter that’s went to oxford that’s about to do a book on the lives of the dhulos that were in the circus in Europe. The history of sultan nuur is being written with sources.

I have graduated and I’m even thinking of joining the british military and being the next afweyne in the future.

[Voltage]

Please go somewhere else. Thank you.

[Samatalis249]

What did the young pHD holder Mohamed ingriis do this time.

Daroods don’t like anyone who goes anywhere near archived information. He’s had a bulls eye on his back since he made this tweet.

[Samatalis249]

Voltage might even be aw hirsi. When they get frustrated they used the same capitalised letter for emphasis. Their typing is near identical.

[Ben Dover]

The trauma compels this midgan to mention me in every post he make.

I think I am going amass quite a bit of danbi for what I have done to the emotional boon's mental wellbeing.

[Voltage]

this midgan

..

quite a bit of danbi

Why do you feel so strongly against me? Wallahi I never understood this.

Secondly, the irony of taking on religious disposition particularly where transgression is concerned and utilizing perhaps the most injurious social epithet in the Somali culture is beyond comprehensible.

Ninyaho Ramadaan Kareem.

[Voltage]

Voltage might even be aw hirsi. When they get frustrated they used the same capitalised letter for emphasis. Their typing is near identical.

For some reason, the Sayid issue has never interested me deeply to even care to be meandering with it.

I assure you I write better English than both Aw-Hirsi AND Mohamed Haji Engiriis.

J/k but yeah that is a no to Cirro.

Also,Ingiriiis is making my point. Is he on Somalinet? It is ridiculous the way he is misusing academics for online cyber tribal mudslinging?

Wallahi it's very regrettable.