Clearing the misconception of so called irirsm

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Clearing the misconception of so called irirsm

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Hello friends,

Hope all is well with everyone.

I just want to clarify one thing which very few of us idoors still harp on about which the notion of irirism. This notion was created in the late 80s to mid 90s by SNM to get non darod to rise up against siyaad by creating a short term alliance. That short term alliance ended when the said goals were achieved.


I was terribly saddened to see threads titled ‘congratulations to our irir brothers’, nothing more embarrassing and humiliating than isaaq man begging hawiye or any other clan. These few people don’t represent us.
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The ordinary Hawiye folk are cool but their elites particularly Abgaal still believe in the reunification delusion that will never materialise again

Hawiye benefit from an independent Somaliland since they are the majority in Somalia only, allowing them to focus on ruling from Ras Aseyr to Ras Kamboni
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Dadka koonfurta badanaaba waxay sheegtaan wax la dhoho Samaale figure oo hawiyaha ka balaaran. ka sokoow Samaale waxaa jira Irir Samaale oo dir iyo hawiye ah. Maadama Isaaqa qaarna dhahaan waa dir qaarna ka soo horjeedaan oo carab ku sheegaan ama taxaaluf la lahaan jireen sida gabyada dagaalka, Kadib qaladkii isaaqa sameeyeen oo ahaa ku biiridii ay koonfur ku biireen ayagoon qabyaalada koonfur looga dhaqmo ka war hayn, waxaa dhacdey in hartidii waqooyi majeerteen ku biireen saasna ku qabsadaan SYLs central committee soona sharaxdeen aadan cade si ay pmka u helaan. isaaqii oo yaaban gadaalna u noqon karin ayaa qaar kamida hawiye wuxuu la galay taxaaluf Irir Samaale iyo dirtii koonfureed oo uu hogaamin jiray xilibaan la dhoho abdulqaadir juuje

look this photo HG was the pm, Mudulood speaker abd hawadle wasiir under the italian governor. things changed after the unity in favour of Daarood. Irirsm doesnt work anymore today majority of dir are closer to Darood including samaroon these guys r pro nabar iyo Naxdin. i think isaaq should look only after their interests. the weak and isolated Farmaajo is much better for them than a mj partner hawiye president but a hawiye will not antagonize isaaq/SL

its very simple since you are not part of the FGS or even Somalia interms of federalism and political syatem the other leg the FGS stands on is mj /PL so doesnt work without PL.


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Irirism much older. At the turn of the century Ina Igaare the Issaq Chieftan helped the HG Sacad acquire weapons From Zanzibar to fight the MJ.

Irirism exists solely as a military alliance like NATO against militant Jebertism
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AbdiWahab252 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:36 pm Irirism much older. At the turn of the century Ina Igaare the Issaq Chieftan helped the HG Sacad acquire weapons From Zanzibar to fight the MJ.

Irirism exists solely as a military alliance like NATO against militant Jebertism
Its good you got cuqdad, iyo ciil as well from Sunday Kenadiid time, nin daad qaaday, laba qaawani isma qaado
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Hawiye will soon rule the Majertenia tribal enclave
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Re: Clearing the misconception of so called irirsm

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Irir samaale is not created by any one it's a major clan that exists , yes isaaqs are part of the irirsamaale umbrella . That doesn't mean we share polical views with its members. For example hawiye are the main clan of Somalia and isaaq is the majority clan in somaliland. Idiologiclly we subscribe to two different opposing camps. Outside politics we are in good terms with hawiye there is no clan based animosity between us.
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Irir samaale Waa qabiil lagu abtirsado.. Waa iibihii dhalay .Hawiye iyo walaalkiis Dir... Isaaqa Waa carab shaqo Kuma laha dir... Waa run 1990 markii Hawiye Usc riday Siad bare goverment oo aan qaxootigii SNm dhulkoodii KU soo celinaya in isaaqa KU soo biiray Dir. Laakiin xaqiiqdii isaaqa shaqo Kuma laha dir iyo irir samaale. Isaaqa Waa carab.
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DR-YALAXOOW wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:48 am Irir samaale Waa qabiil lagu abtirsado.. Waa iibihii dhalay .Hawiye iyo walaalkiis Dir... Isaaqa Waa carab shaqo Kuma laha dir... Waa run 1990 markii Hawiye Usc riday Siad bare goverment oo aan qaxootigii SNm dhulkoodii KU soo celinaya in isaaqa KU soo biiray Dir. Laakiin xaqiiqdii isaaqa shaqo Kuma laha dir iyo irir samaale. Isaaqa Waa carab.
Your mother would often visit an AMISOM base during the late night I hear?
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Re: Clearing the misconception of so called irirsm

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DR-YALAXOOW wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:48 am Irir samaale Waa qabiil lagu abtirsado.. Waa iibihii dhalay .Hawiye iyo walaalkiis Dir... Isaaqa Waa carab shaqo Kuma laha dir... Waa run 1990 markii Hawiye Usc riday Siad bare goverment oo aan qaxootigii SNm dhulkoodii KU soo celinaya in isaaqa KU soo biiray Dir. Laakiin xaqiiqdii isaaqa shaqo Kuma laha dir iyo irir samaale. Isaaqa Waa carab.
Hawiye joined the war when barre sent all his armed forces to the north, all USC fought was his 300 body guards or so and even then he still managed to ran away. That’s the reason hawiye took their anger out on the poor natives of Mogadishu.

As for dir being part of the phantom irir, that’s nonsense, hawiye is burning dir villages and grandmothers trying to take over their land...
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