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Its crazy how Somalia are treated like misbehaving preschoolers. Look at the US Statement ‘We will take action against the spoilers’ akin to a child being disciplined. I don’t know any other countries humiliated like this

Murax wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:01 am Its crazy how Somalia are treated like misbehaving preschoolers. Look at the US Statement ‘We will take action against the spoilers’ akin to a child being disciplined. I don’t know any other countries humiliated like this

The European Union statement is even worse. This is just a lip-service as these guys are fully aware of everything that is happening. In fact I would not be surprised if they are not behind the removal of the prime minister. These statements are still very much disrespectful though. Foreign aid dependency sucks.

They’re absolutely correct. When you can’t conduct yourself you’ll be treated like a child. Much more powerful countries don’t even attempt to do what somali politicians attempt to do.

Somalia disintegrated through a multilateral tribal civil war that split the country into 10 pieces of glass. The only reason there is a so called gov is because they brought an army to xamar they fund it and the gov and they give it international legitimacy even though it only controls xamar through there foreign army.

If diaspora politicians are acting like spoilers and taking the country into a civil war xaq bay uu leyaheen inay hadlan. If they say they don’t recognise the gov of Somalia and its a failed state again on what authority is Farmajo president.

This isn't the transitional period when the international partners had much more of an influential say so. Their little communiques will be taken into consideration, but the FGS will always have the final say so on the ground. This current admin is headed on the right track in the revival of Somalia.

They lost their main inside man. The tantrum is a proof of it

The international community shouldn’t be involved what Somali parliament voted, whether it’s illegal or legal is for Somali ppl and an investigation committee needs to be appointed to review whether the voting was legal and legitimate and if not the parliament sacked and new elections held.

We can all bury our heads in the sand and pretend Somalia is sovereign nation, but reality entails otherwise. Somalia, in its current form, is nothing more than a mashruuc, owned and operated by the so called International Community.

They must be spanked too. Because what these clowns are doing in the parliament/villa Somalia is outrageous.

I’m glad he’s gone . He comes from NGO background.

Guulwadoow intii la odhan lahaa, nina yuusan guulaysan


have you ever heard of that @murax?

barbarossa wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:36 pm We can all bury our heads in the sand and pretend Somalia is sovereign nation, but reality entails otherwise. Somalia, in its current form, is nothing more than a mashruuc, owned and operated by the so called International Community.

Yup. Did you see this?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/africa/z ... index.html

Caytame wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:58 pm Guulwadoow intii la odhan lahaa, nina yuusan guulaysan


have you ever heard of that @murax?

Zero sum game soo maaha. Inti Kheyre la ooran lahaa nina yuusin guleeysin? Hadaa sidaas ka wado Kheyre’s removal was straight BS nobody’s denying that. Debt relief, payment of salaries, etc he was the head of the Gov so he gets credit. As foolxumo as it was wixi dhaceen wey dhaceen. Sucuudiga strangled, butchered, disintegrated the body of a man at a consulate who was a critic. How does Somalia get a worse statement compared to a man in Kheyre who was voted out of the last 6 months, with probably millions of dollars in hush money to not work?!


Ironman, who I respect as Anti Farmaajo, still recognizes these Beesha 6aad guys are out of pocket. Like Turbulence, I also believe half of the stuff they ‘condemn’ they not only knew about it beforehand but maybe even helped facilitate it. Its gullible to think these are good ‘ol folks who want nothing else then to give millions for Somalia to thrive. Their ‘aid’ are investments in the form of future leverage to a resource rich country, while beating out Turkey, China, Russia etc

Murax

These artificial entities wouldn’t have existed without Beesha Calaamka. They can’t complain about the hand that feeds and protects them.


This is not Aweys ICU, Cabdiqassims TNG, or Caydiid’s Salbalar, or Ali Mahdis government. All of them existed based on their own muscle unlike Yusufs TFG, Sharifs TFG, HSMs FG.

A government that doesn't have:
Army to defend the whole country
Police able to protect the capital city
Police able to protect the only main road in the capital
Government officals that can't travel 50km outside the capital by car
Enough economy to facilitate its own governmental deeds

What kind of sovereignty are we talking about whilst we couldn't maintain the above mentioned issues?
You can't defeat al-Shabab with an empty ego. It needs decitation and loyalty..something that has been a miss for successive governments.
Imagine had it been used wisely the funds allocated for the government by donors, but it had been used for personal interests.

No one is happy paying a worker doing a botched job. Got it now.

zidane88 wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:11 am A government that doesn't have:
Army to defend the whole country
Police able to protect the capital city
Police able to protect the only main road in the capital
Government officals that can't travel 50km outside the capital by car
Enough economy to facilitate its own governmental deeds

What kind of sovereignty are we talking about whilst we couldn't maintain the above mentioned issues?
You can't defeat al-Shabab with an empty ego. It needs decitation and loyalty..something that has been a miss for successive governments.
Imagine had it been used wisely the funds allocated for the government by donors, but it had been used for personal interests.

No one is happy paying a worker doing a botched job. Got it now.

Well I can’t refute a word you said. I guess a worse indictment is how we never as a people felt insulted, degraded enough to say screw it lets all unite on a common purpose so this doesn’t continue.