i dont want swap hirshabelle for 6 months pm shit

[sahal80]

i have a vision inaan federalka ka joogno ilaa 2024 intay baladweyne ka dhismayso laakiin hadii Abgaal madax ka noqdaan Hirshabelle isagama shaqaysan karno hada free aan nahay aniga xataa UAE aan u socdaa oo alaabta meeshaas ka soo diri. hada 10 mashruuc aa baladweyne loo soo saxiixay sida biyo galinta magaalada, laami wayn oo waqooyoga magaalada laga dhiso sida kan marka hore laakiin laamigii horaa la cusboonaysiinooyaa laakin engineerka mashruuca laamiga cusub hayaan aqaan waa airportka ilaa wabiga kadibna meesha aargada uu ku leexanaa oo laamiga kale kaga dhici
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saacadii la soo dhaafay sadex hawadle ah baa liiska kula jiray HG, Abgaal oo taageeray hawadlihii si ay hirshabelle u qaataan maadama aysan pmka heleen oo HG loo wado. arintaan ay kala hadleen murashixiintaas oo kala ah abuukar baale oo abgaal dhaleen ahna the half brother of former deputy NISA ismael osman, Afyare elmi backed by Safiirka Qatar, Abdi Nur sheeikh ex education minister who claims he will be accepted by the opposition and he was campaigning for the conditional extension long months ago.

Reer Jowhar abukar baale wants to give hirshabelle his abtiyaal if he gets the pm post. guy who posted is half brother former NISA deputy director



i said

look these all hawadle guys using Hirshabelle name

[Murax]

Sahal,

I was wrong about Kheyre, but I am still digging in about no elections February, 2021 period. If wrong, I will acknowledge like last time.

[sahal80]

Sahal,

I was wrong about Kheyre, but I am still digging in about no elections February, 2021 period. If wrong, I will acknowledge like last time.

you need to say if all stakeholders agreed dont speak like farmaajo can force shit on his own. if he reaches a deal with the FMS and political parties that is another thing. yesterday he was told by Xalane "we will not accept any pm not accepted by the opposition and the FMS" so now his list of pm candidates have changed he looks for someone who is very influential among HG and Galmudug and Xamar yet not typical Madasha. ex Hawadle education minister Abdinur was added in this list as soft mucaarad . talks with Abdikarem guleed by fahad are going on. he is not part of madasha.

listen i dont give technical extension any meaning im saying till may nothing can happen without agreement with the opposition and FMS.


my next topic is about UNSC outruling term extension just waiting for xog to make sure. SC meeting may take place in thursday. they gonna talk about the somali situation and talk about list of spoilers.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Congrats Sahal kkk.

[sahal80]

Congrats Sahal kkk.

[Osob101]

Sahalow

Take the PM seat if it comes your way. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket eebow or you will come to regret it. Mudulood have one 100 rejected the PM post as a collective and agreed with HG for the same but politics is a very unpredictable game and we now know HG are the front runners this why Xasan Sheikh has our support to get someone from his party to the seat, if that will lead to destroying this government. Finally I have one question for you?

Why do you have to short yourself and instead go after the PM position and regional Presidency? I hope you realize once One Man One Vote comes into play, it will be almost impossible to win the regional Presidency LOL. My advice go after everything’s. We as Mudulood want all the seats even it means holding all the Federal positions such as President,PM and Speaker of the house all at once. It’s a eat or be eaten world.

[Somalization]

Xawaadle shouldn’t go for that heavily politicised seat. They are in good position with Hirshabelle and should get ready to transition Presidency with the next Xawaadle candidate. Xawaadle should never go near that seat be distant from this at all lengths.

Qoone and Godax and Abdi Farah Laqanyo are going for that Hirshabelle seat. My bet is on Laqanyo.

[Somalization]

Abukar Baale cannot get PM seat, he is UNGA Vice President.

PM is going to Abdikarim Guled.

[Somalization]

Sahalow

Take the PM seat if it comes your way. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket eebow or you will come to regret it. Mudulood have one 100 rejected the PM post as a collective and agreed with HG for the same but politics is a very unpredictable game and we now know HG are the front runners this why Xasan Sheikh has our support to get someone from his party to the seat, if that will lead to destroying this government. Finally I have one question for you?

Why do you have to short yourself and instead go after the PM position and regional Presidency? I hope you realize once One Man One Vote comes into play, it will be almost impossible to win the regional Presidency LOL. My advice go after everything’s. We as Mudulood want all the seats even it means holding all the Federal positions such as President,PM and Speaker of the house all at once. It’s a eat or be eaten world.

Hawadle will have an advantage when it comes to 1m1v they are scattered all over Middle Shabelle you’ll find them in super Abgaal areas like Adan Yabaal and even Balcad nowadays. Abgaal Iyo Xawaadle waa wiil Iyo Abtigiis Abgaal will focus on Banadir and won’t look twice at Hirshabelle. Hirshabelle is for Xawaadle and Abgaal’s source of secondary income (Warsheikh Airport + Cadale port etc Abgaals getaway) it’s only the Mudolood Yaryar who made a so-called langaab alliance not long ago who aren’t happy with their position in Hirshabelle, I don’t blame the Mudolood yar yar tbh in Konfuur Galbeed Wacdaan Cismaan and just one sub clan of Xawaadle the Cabdalle Samatalis are equal in representation even the Ogaden got more than Wacdan Cismaan wax kale iska dhaaf.

[sahal80]

Sahalow

Take the PM seat if it comes your way. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket eebow or you will come to regret it. Mudulood have one 100 rejected the PM post as a collective and agreed with HG for the same but politics is a very unpredictable game and we now know HG are the front runners this why Xasan Sheikh has our support to get someone from his party to the seat, if that will lead to destroying this government. Finally I have one question for you?

Why do you have to short yourself and instead go after the PM position and regional Presidency? I hope you realize once One Man One Vote comes into play, it will be almost impossible to win the regional Presidency LOL. My advice go after everything’s. We as Mudulood want all the seats even it means holding all the Federal positions such as President,PM and Speaker of the house all at once. It’s a eat or be eaten world.

Hirshabelle power sharing is based on gentleman's agreement just like the pm has to come from hawiye. this clan structure of Somalia will prevail for a long time even the 1p1v will be based on hybrid system for example Mudulood will have the seats in the parliament just Mudulood mps will be voted by the deegaan(constituencies) not by their clans jareer will vote them gaaljecel will vote them and every local clan. why Khadiijo diiriye switched to Farmaajo despite being against 1p 1v? they agreed with her only the 4 clans will be applied to this and beesha shanaad will still be voted by selected people.

reason i like my regional president is to get closer to the locals look how fiqi made difference since he joined Galmudug today dusamareeb has farms and parks so i wanna concentrate on the region in the next 4 years atleast instead of our diaspora flocking to Xamar we wanna have some thing like PL and SL


why not keep both federal and regional seats? one Hawadle asked me this quesion saying HG have Galmudug and wants the pm too mj have PL and want the pm too i said to him Galmudug is about HG and PL is about Mj but hirshabelle are shared by Abgaal and Hawadle imagin going to Xamar and taking a seat in a city they politically and militarly dominate and every thing depends on them? No problem between Hawadle and Abgaal but atleast they have to take the regional president you cant have both. im into power rotation between Abgaal and Hawadle in Hirshabelle and federal level but we need to close the developmental gap between Hirshabelle and Xamar first like the EU did when the eastern europians wanted to be member of it they asked them first to wait for 10 years of economic reformation.

[barbarossa]

Ustaad Sahal, Beesha should consider taking the pm position, if for no other reason, at least it will look good on its CV. After all, the likelihood of Beesha ever securing a full term premiership post, is quasi impossible, due mainly to the qabiil based 4.5 power-sharing system currently in effect in Skinnystan. The system, as it stands righ now, precludes minor clans of ever assuming the two highest office of presidency/premiership, as they chronically lack the political clout necessary to strive in the dog-eat-dog world of Somali power politics. The best qabiilada yar yar like the beesha can hope for is the nominal wasiirka waxbarashada ama wasiira dowlaha qorsheynta qaranka.

[BigBreak]

If an MJ can become Somalia's prime minister and leader of Puntland then why can't Hawadle be Somalia's prime minister and Hiirshabelle president at the same time?

Hawadle

[GeoSeven]

Hawadle isn't desperate for the OPM. We should concentrate on reforming and investing on our political base in Hiiraan/Hirshabeelle. I believe most share the same opinion. Lixdaas bilo dad kale ha qaataan, it has absolutely no appeal nor benefit. Even though the said candidates are being advised to ignore any proposals, the choice would ultimately lie with the nominated individual.

If an MJ can become Somalia's prime minister and leader of Puntland then why can't Hawadle be Somalia's prime minister and Hiirshabelle president at the same time?

Hawadle

Lots of reasons why they or anybody should not follow that formula. It erodes goodwill between community Perhaps there is no culture of political consideration or sharing anything with others in Puntland. Majeerteen takes all and everything, without regard for the 10 other clans living with them.

[BigBreak]

Great point Geo a different angle I hadn't thought of

[sahal80]

Hawadle isn't desperate for the OPM. We should concentrate on reforming and investing on our political base in Hiiraan/Hirshabeelle. I believe most share the same opinion. Lixdaas bilo dad kale ha qaataan, it has absolutely no appeal nor benefit. Even though the said candidates are being advised to ignore any proposals, the choice would ultimately lie with the nominated individual.

If an MJ can become Somalia's prime minister and leader of Puntland then why can't Hawadle be Somalia's prime minister and Hiirshabelle president at the same time?

Hawadle

Lots of reasons why they or anybody should not follow that formula. It erodes goodwill between community Perhaps there is no culture of political consideration or sharing anything with others in Puntland. Majeerteen takes all and everything, without regard for the 10 other clans living with them.