#NabadiyoNolol introducing first world politics to reer baadiyo geeljire like Sahal KKK

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

From UDP's own baby Odowa

[Voltage]

I said this to Sahal exactly a year ago.

Sahal

I am starting to understand the problem with you is not even about intending to act in bad faith or being intentionally misleading.

The ignorance you show is more fundamental.

I had assumed you were younger and more educated (i.e. "sophisticated"), but ever since you showed gross ignorance about the fundamentals of state formation in Somalia, I realized you were in over your head.

It's like talking to a typical jaahil Somali at a coffee shop fadhi ku dirir.

You understand local Somali issues like who is what tribe and which person paid what bribe money, but the basic underpinnings of state formation held in joint contract guaranteed by Somalia's partners is something whose technical details you are completely ignorant to.

This is why I am always surprised by the irrelevance of your responses on this subject. They always seem petty and small; I realize now that's only because they seem oblivious to the BIG PICTURE.

Because one doesn't see the big picture and because then they are not aware of the technical details that govern PROGRESS in Somali State formation, the explanation for issues like this is only in ways most Somalis understand mostly throughlocalized, petty disagreements (hebel talked who, hebel has something called xoogag wadaniyiin, hebel fulaan says this).

It's why you keep using buzzwords like "xogaga wadaniyiinta" and other misinformation campaign probably orchestrated inside Parliament for why they are trying to deviate from 1man/1vote. [My theory is the usual corrupt MPs are scared their reelection will become very competitive or uncertain ]

They are simply trying to confuse the political debate by mischaracterizing Farmaajo group's initial support for Proportional Representation WITHIN 1man/1vote as if that is the only way to implement it? Through that mischaracterization they want to provide justification for spoilingthe entire mandate as they have been hinting the new law is NOT 1man/vote.

ALL THAT IS IRRELEVANT.

But that's why that misinformation campaign had people like YOU against 1 man/1 vote as of just couple days ago;

this is what im talking about! i dont mind Farmaajo getting reelected if you uses the same old sysyem but i dont believe he has more chance than hassan sh.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 4#p4965240

It's also why the same ignorant people that sold you that simple, pretty, localized explanation due to their own ignorance about what is really at stake, convinced you Farmaajo could get rid of 4.5 if he wasn't stopped.

Remember my incredulous response when I realized how gullible you were to be made convinced by anyone such a fundamental underpinning of ongoing Somali state formation could be removed without 100% support from all principals (at the LEAST)?

I am not surprised though. It's not even about you personally; almost every Somali I see or come across seems to be completely out of his depth due to the technical intricacies and nuances surrounding election law in general and trying to configure Somalia's.

For example; you are under the impression that it is even relevant whether Kheyre the individual even as "PM" or Farmaajo the individual even as "President" can want or not want 4.5.

4.5 is the political "trust" that brought Somalis together in a national government.

The International Community is the guarantor of the terms of the "trust."

It is irrelevant whether individuals have any views on it because an individual has 0 power to affect change.

4.5 is what all Somalis said we accept to even come to the table to recognize a position of "President" to exist.

You break the terms of the trust by even thinking of removing 4.5 without 100% support from all stakehikders and abolish the recognition of your own seat.

My finall address to you;

1. This has nothing to do with Farmaajo. It could be Hassan Sheekh sitting there for all we like.

2. There is a framework here and a mandate that is bigger than individuals including President let alone an MP (4.5, federalism, working toward 1man/1vote).

3. There are a lot of different interests in Parliament (anti-4.5/pro-4.5, anti-federalism/pro-federalism,etc) and even misinformation could be coming from different sections of it as political warfare (xoogaga wadaniyinya blah blah blah)

4. MOST of the stakeholders have officially and publicly adhered to the original framework and mandate of transitioning to a system of 1man/1vote including the President leading the Executive branch, the independent commission led by Halima Yareey, and the Federal Member States.

5. The ONLY stakeholder that has signaled they will deviate is Parliament which has hinted in the election law that is still being worked on that it will propose a law contrary to 1 man/1vote

6. The UN/Donors as the GUARANTOR of the framework has stepped in to pressure Parliament (as the only deviated stakeholde) to change course as the mandate is binding, i.e. contract.

7. The IC statement is the beginning of a showdown between the "rebel" stakeholder (Parliament) and the GUARANTOR or "DAMAANAD-QAADE (UN/Donors).

8. In the end, there will be a compromise that provides "CONTINUITY" of progress in State Formation.

9. Mark my words; the compromise from UN/Donors will be they will accept universal 1man/vote cannot be done now in exchange for something that is more universal and competitive than 2016 elections.

10. I will WAGER an arm and a leg that what they have been demonizing as "Farmaajo's xogaga wadaniyiinta system" aka more universal participation will in the end be what most resembles the final election compromise.

[Nubis]