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Baakay got humiliated

Fake news, troops have succeeded in pushing back the rogue militia from Beledweyne airport. It seems like the operation is going smoothly.

https://www.mustaqbalradio.net/ciidamad ... -gen-xuud/

The era of tribal militias should end. Somalia cannot afford to be stuck in the 1990's.

there was no war at all no army confrontation at all not in the same place at all.

Xuud 4(airport) Davageed 3(janta kundisha he did not go 4 stright if he was after fight) people came out and closed the road to janta (1)



SNA rejected to fight against xuud for 3 days. abaanduulaha and Xuud are cousins and they r the biggest jufo in the army they dint fight against their kinsman. so only 4 tikniko belong to hirshabelle who appoints the police and local NISA moved to janta kundisho not the airport, Xuud militia retreated to Sabadcaano behind the airport to secure the supply route from Ceelgaal its base. you can see in this map. airport is half way between janta and sabadcaano. its like 2k away from the airport. baladweyne surrended by the mountains and they in the mountains north of the airport they can come back at any time what they did is called tactical withdrawal to protect the supply route bc the airport is not on the highway


we retreated to the mountains without war

Taking up arms to reverse political setbacks is not a good idea. It will leave the Hawadle politically isolated.

The Abgals have acted strategically by agreeing to the "Gentleman's Agreement.......it fooled the Hawadle into believing they would be permanent co rulers of HS.

They acted like typical Somalis and failed to negotiate or make any concessions to their neighbours.

Now the Abgals have made an alliance with the nemesis of Hawadle...the Galjecal, to cut the ground from under Hawadle.

By taking up arms the Hawadle have only proved their political defeat and failure.

original dervish wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:19 pm Taking up arms to reverse political setbacks is not a good idea. It will leave the Hawadle politically isolated.

The Abgals have acted strategically by agreeing to the "Gentleman's Agreement.......it fooled the Hawadle into believing they would be permanent co rulers of HS.

They acted like typical Somalis and failed to negotiate or make any concessions to their neighbours.

Now the Abgals have made an alliance with the nemesis of Hawadle...the Galjecal, to cut the ground from under Hawadle.

By taking up arms the Hawadle have only proved their political defeat and failure.

with many respect i dont think you know the local dynamics its like saying Mx are allaying themselvies with Mj against OG!

i dont think Abgaal have to do anything what is happening in Hirshabelle so what abgaal your talking about? if you mean by Guudlaawe listen Xuud saying "he told his own Abgaals aniga N&N aa i wadata "

Yes most clans hate hawadle and favour Abgaal like JL they hate OG and favour mx. the more influence you have the more your hated. Jowhar has 3 clans and hiiraan nearly 10 though, 12 mps and hiiraan 25 most are dulsaar and live in ethiopia but hiiraan is their gate to Somalia some of them mandheere are claiming baladweyne now

yes Abgaalka Xilga doorashada wey isticmaalaan qabiiladan hiiraan u badan but soon after they reconnect with Hawadle they dump them and deep down they know without Hawadle things will turn in favour of HG and most of these clans are under the HG hegemony. Hawadle as a third hawiye powerful clan can tip the balance in favor of HG or Abgaal.

so all these clans who hate Hawadle r now funded by Fahad yasin and they formed anti hawadle group they call Xaqsoor group. besides this reerow hassan policy, Mooge thinks that this will kill abgaal federal chances bc they cant lead two states and be president even wont get Hawadle votes.

as For xuud he forced Dabageed say i will resign if baladweyne does not become the capital and get all the abgaals used to have. he is our hero he says you can't treat hiiraan like that. respect my existence or expect resistance!

Clearly you have a greater knowledge where Hiraan is concerned.

I would say this though sxb......you missed a trick by not negotiating with these hated clans.

Even though you defeated them surely you must have realised they'd be back in some other shape and form.

The problem with Somalis is they believe in "all or nothing".
This mindset works when your looting your neighbours camels but is redundant in 21st century Somalia.

Inshallah these clans can build prosperous and peaceful future.

original dervish wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:38 am Clearly you have a greater knowledge where Hiraan is concerned.

I would say this though sxb......you missed a trick by not negotiating with these hated clans.

Even though you defeated them surely you must have realised they'd be back in some other shape and form.

The problem with Somalis is they believe in "all or nothing".
This mindset works when your looting your neighbours camels but is redundant in 21st century Somalia.

Inshallah these clans can build prosperous and peaceful future.

Agree with you on this. Waare had reconciliation policy within Hiiraan he wanted to replace the 4.5 with a more balanced parliament were Hawadle and Jareers get more mps so the pro hawadle and pro Abgaal clans can be 50/50 and Abgaal and Hawadle 50/50 then you dont need to say the president or the speaker has to come from this clan. i dont know if he was telling the Truth but he asked for to extend for him a year through he served three years and the constitutions says 4 years. they gave now this extra year to Guudlaawe to avoid state and federal elections conciding each other.

Hiiraan except Baladweyne, Buuloburde and Mustahil hawadle live in the east of the river and gugundhabe and jareer live in the west of the river. west is disputed by many clans like Gaaljecel and jijeele and Jareer. middle shabelle there is Abgaal vs shiidle jareer so Hawadle are allied with the Jareer, shiidle, arabs, jijeele, eyle all these in the west of the river. Hassan Sh admin sidelimed these clans in fouver of the pro Abgaal clans like Udeejeen, Ceyr HG, Gaaljecel, Baadicade, reerow hassan so we want to fix this in the future once the parliament is moved to Baladweyne.

These Al shabaab are Gaaljecel targeting Jijeele. that is why they r not danger on Hawadle at all if they can let them welcome Guudlaawe in their al shabaab infested side. Jijeele side is abit safe. hada dhismaha laamiga ay dhanka gaaljecel ka socda jijeele side ayaan kan hawadle ku xigey for its not bad security xoogaanaa waa loo eexdaa.


Jowhar hawadle and Shiidle allied against Abgaal and Gaaljecel. all villages north of jowhar along the highway belong to us. if you enter joehar from waqooyi is Hawadle
https://reliefweb.int/report/somalia/le ... n-fighting




waa dagaal qabiil oo shaatiga shabaab wata

In 2020 you have a Black/Indian female as a vice president in one the of the most successful and strongest countries in the world. Whereas in 2020 we also have a idiot like Sahal who can't accept to acknowledge that Hiirshabele does not belong to Xawaadle only but belongs to all Hiirshabelian. Its so cringing that they also whining about where the capital city should be.

I really hope Somalis like sahal are a minority, because I would definitely would never hire them for any shit.