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Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 9:49 am
by UgaaskaBarakaysan
There was a closed door meeting yesterday that occurred in Caabudwaaq between Ugaaska Beesha Sade and the highest levels of the Galmudug Government officials which included VP Cali Ciid (Celi/Marehan) and the Galmudug Minister of Interior Cabdi Maxamed (Rer Diini/Marehan) this occurred after the commencement of ongoing mashruucs and the beginning phase of new projects put into place. The leaders also discussed new security measures put into place within the district.

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A few days beforehand there was a conference held in Degmada Galaadi in Gobolka Doolow in which DDS President Cagjar met with the Ugaas and other sections of the local populace and announced he would be naming new districts within Gobolka Doloow such as in Yamaruugley and Dhuuban and bringing in mashruucs for the region as well.

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This meeting was preceded by one that occurred in Jigjiga recently in which these significant agreements were agreed upon.

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Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:39 pm
by Sbashi
Mashallah. These degmos are long overdue. But they are a good start we need a zone next

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 pm
by UgaaskaBarakaysan
Making a new zone is in the works since beesha have substantial lands in the regions of both Doolow and Qoraxeey, not to mention Libaan zone as well which is under different parameters as you might be aware.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:07 pm
by Sbashi
UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 pm Making a new zone is in the works since beesha have substantial lands in the regions of both Doolow and Qoraxeey, not to mention Libaan zone as well which is under different parameters as you might be aware.
We will go get more degmos in liban zone. Leave that to reer xassan. For qoraxeey and doolow we need a zone joining the lands we own in these both zones. the cagdher are thirsty for the land as well as few MJ who use the cagdheer.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:11 pm
by UgaaskaBarakaysan
Sbashi wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:07 pm
UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 pm Making a new zone is in the works since beesha have substantial lands in the regions of both Doolow and Qoraxeey, not to mention Libaan zone as well which is under different parameters as you might be aware.
We will go get more degmos in liban zone. Leave that to reer xassan. For qoraxeey and doolow we need a zone joining the lands we own in these both zones. the cagdher are thirsty for the land as well as few MJ who use the cagdheer.
They've been taught a real lesson during the last skirmishes and it was posted on here.

However in the last few months there have been many shirs between the isims of the Makahil, Rer Bicidyaha, and our Ugaas Mohamed in which many of those issues were settled through xeer dhaqan.

There has been no issues ever since then.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:24 pm
by Sbashi
UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:11 pm
Sbashi wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:07 pm
UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:48 pm Making a new zone is in the works since beesha have substantial lands in the regions of both Doolow and Qoraxeey, not to mention Libaan zone as well which is under different parameters as you might be aware.
We will go get more degmos in liban zone. Leave that to reer xassan. For qoraxeey and doolow we need a zone joining the lands we own in these both zones. the cagdher are thirsty for the land as well as few MJ who use the cagdheer.
They've been taught a real lesson during the last skirmishes and it was posted on here.

However in the last few months there have been many shirs between the isims of the Makahil, Rer Bicidyaha, and our Ugaas Mohamed in which many of those issues were settled through xeer dhaqan.

There has been no issues ever since then.

I hope that is the case. I can't trust them though, afterall Mj are the folk who stole land and makahil are the folk telling reer ciisman to claim Makahil.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:26 pm
by UgaaskaBarakaysan
Sbashi wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:24 pm
UgaaskaBarakaysan wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:11 pm
Sbashi wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2020 1:07 pm

We will go get more degmos in liban zone. Leave that to reer xassan. For qoraxeey and doolow we need a zone joining the lands we own in these both zones. the cagdher are thirsty for the land as well as few MJ who use the cagdheer.
They've been taught a real lesson during the last skirmishes and it was posted on here.

However in the last few months there have been many shirs between the isims of the Makahil, Rer Bicidyaha, and our Ugaas Mohamed in which many of those issues were settled through xeer dhaqan.

There has been no issues ever since then.

I hope that is the case. I can't trust them though, afterall Mj are the folk who stole land and makahil are the folk telling reer ciisman to claim Makahil.
Never trust them.

That is a given, however you have to work within structures to get certain results. Constant dagaal has its benefits and its drawbacks.

It's best to use a dual approach when possible.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:21 am
by Caytame
so let me get this straight, y'all didn't ask galmudug stolen lands like gelinsoor to be returned, but are asking for new degmos inside galbeed?
somali waxay tidhi "ninka aad gedada galisaa kaa saara" guntaa tuugsanaysa waa isla midgahaa geed dheer iyo ku gaaban ba u fuulay burburinta JL under their aabo farmaajo.

Anyways, HG need to stop uprooting marehan because it's clear they wouldn't be seeking deegaan inside somali galbeed if they weren't on the run.
and when cagjar goes, you'll be shipped back to your desert deegaans in GM, where you'll either defend your lands from HG or flee elsewhere.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:28 am
by Voltage
Caytame wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:21 am so let me get this straight, y'all didn't ask galmudug stolen lands like gelinsoor to be returned, but are asking for new degmos inside galbeed?
somali waxay tidhi "ninka aad gedada galisaa kaa saara" guntaa tuugsanaysa waa isla midgahaa geed dheer iyo ku gaaban ba u fuulay burburinta JL under their aabo farmaajo.

Anyways, HG need to stop uprooting marehan because it's clear they wouldn't be seeking deegaan inside somali galbeed if they weren't on the run.
and when cagjar goes, you'll be shipped back to your desert deegaans in GM, where you'll either defend your lands from HG or flee elsewhere.
Unfortunately, you do not understand anything about Somali history or geography and particularly about Mudug and probably about neighboring Somali region either.

I won't bother but I will tell you a fact the land Marehan sits in now is the only land between Dhagaxbuur and the Coast with natural permenant water. End of a 60 year old misunderstanding.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:26 am
by Sbashi
Caytame wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:21 am so let me get this straight, y'all didn't ask galmudug stolen lands like gelinsoor to be returned, but are asking for new degmos inside galbeed?
somali waxay tidhi "ninka aad gedada galisaa kaa saara" guntaa tuugsanaysa waa isla midgahaa geed dheer iyo ku gaaban ba u fuulay burburinta JL under their aabo farmaajo.

Anyways, HG need to stop uprooting marehan because it's clear they wouldn't be seeking deegaan inside somali galbeed if they weren't on the run.
and when cagjar goes, you'll be shipped back to your desert deegaans in GM, where you'll either defend your lands from HG or flee elsewhere.
Gelinsoor is in process. It would've been liberated even faster if you and Mj didn't keep giving us problems in our deegans in DDS. You forced 2 fronts on us. Those deegans are mx just like gelinsoor. Or do you expect us to leave you guys alone and let you steal land because you're darood? Are you here today to tell me that mx aren't supposed to get degmos in shilabo or doolo? War my grandfather was born in Shilabo. And we are reer xassan. We are not talking about a long time here. It hasn't been that long since all mx sub-clans lived there. today you want to bring people from dhegaxbuur and force them to settle in our land. The dhabacyos who are the real squatters not only stole makahil land but they stole mx land during ssdf days. maybe you should focus on them. I deserve a zone warya, i'm done with letting you handle all DDS affairs. I'm getting my representation i deserve i decided this few years ago. Not bothering to get representation made you and dhabacyo bold and thirsty for new land.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:43 pm
by grandpakhalif
Oh Allah Bless President Cagjar for finally recognizing Duuban and Yamaruuglay and Lasacanood as sovereign Marehan countiss not under the generic Doolo govrrnor which has been always biased to Makaahiil and MJ. Allahuakbar!

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 1:30 pm
by Caytame
Voltage wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:28 am
Caytame wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:21 am so let me get this straight, y'all didn't ask galmudug stolen lands like gelinsoor to be returned, but are asking for new degmos inside galbeed?
somali waxay tidhi "ninka aad gedada galisaa kaa saara" guntaa tuugsanaysa waa isla midgahaa geed dheer iyo ku gaaban ba u fuulay burburinta JL under their aabo farmaajo.

Anyways, HG need to stop uprooting marehan because it's clear they wouldn't be seeking deegaan inside somali galbeed if they weren't on the run.
and when cagjar goes, you'll be shipped back to your desert deegaans in GM, where you'll either defend your lands from HG or flee elsewhere.
Unfortunately, you do not understand anything about Somali history or geography and particularly about Mudug and probably about neighboring Somali region either.

I won't bother but I will tell you a fact the land Marehan sits in now is the only land between Dhagaxbuur and the Coast with natural permenant water. End of a 60 year old misunderstanding.
coast? what coast waryaa? all of somali galbeed is inland, and your only degmo left in mudug is cabudwaaq which is on the border, so what is this coast with natural water? :lol: I think this beats when you said back in 2012 that jL presidency was going to rotate between you and us every 20 days.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:41 pm
by Nomand
it will probably be two zones as MX settle in land that is 180km wide and 100km long. plus this decision comes straight from central government in addis ababa cagjar has no say whatsoever.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:14 pm
by UgaaskaBarakaysan
Voltage,

This failed troll metamorphisis/caytame has proven to be beyond the pale. Someone that has nothing of substance to speak of should not be addressed.

Marehan lands in Galbeedka, Galgauud/Mudug, Gedo, Middle and Lower Jubba is all the same to us.

Meaning there is no distinction in how we will go about getting our legitimate share for all of those lands. Whether some troll gives his two cents or not is irrelevant.

Re: Ugaas Mohamed Kayse meets with Galmudug state Leadership and President Cagjar

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 11:17 pm
by UgaaskaBarakaysan
Nomand,

You're right on that part as well, he is playing the same game that we've sat out from for too long. And the central government is aware that our community is not given the amount of representation that our land mass and population demands. Which is what we are in the process of resolving in due time.

Here is the speech he made at the district where he mentions forming a kilil in the region.