A new state called Alto Juiba? Fake news or what

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Murax wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 3:01 am I’.
Definitely Murax would say this is fake but there's a famous saying 'there's no smoke without fire'
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you are obsessed with MX, i don't understand why isaaq members in somalinet are so obsessed with MX and the funny thing is it is all one way. never would a MX care or open a thread about waqooyi galbeed.
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Not true Nomand, many times your people have commented on our affairs so are you obsessed? If not then don't be a hypocrite.

Either comment on this story or just leave this thread, very simple
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I doubt this is true. Mx extends to lower jubba and middle Juba and not bakool. Why would we join Bakool? Besides why would farmaajo go to Jigjiga that's not a cawliyahan stronghold. It's Jidwaaq. It's fake news.
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Unless a teenager, it's obvious the OP knows little about Somalia's history. Alto Giuba already existed several decades ago, during the colonial times.

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Nomand wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:37 am you are obsessed with MX, i don't understand why isaaq members in somalinet are so obsessed with MX and the funny thing is it is all one way. never would a MX care or open a thread about waqooyi galbeed.
Not just MX, waa darood dhan. I have never seen this obsession towards Hawiye and other clans, if we're being honest which darood clan even thinks about Isaaq like that? Even on this forum and social media it's always them getting into our business. Seeing as their politics is so one dimensional (muh Independance), they feel the need to interject because they have been sidelined and ignored for the past 30 years, very frustrated individuals.
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I doubt this is true.

But if it is, it could detrimental to the MX clan. They have to either push back the marauding RX clan, who are eagerly waiting to reclaim their supposed 'stolen land', and are timing an exact revenge attack for what occurred during the 90's (starvation, etc). Or, they'll be swallowed whole if this hypothetical were to ever occur. :lol:

Elaays can be very violent. I think MXs can attest to this, as evidenced through their last encounter. Had MX not been heavy-handed using the artilleries and weaponry provided MSB, they would've been fighting for who controls Gabbrahay right now. I doubt this will ever happen (Farmaggio would never allow it), but if it does, MX are fucked. :lol:
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Phinks wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:26 am
Nomand wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:37 am you are obsessed with MX, i don't understand why isaaq members in somalinet are so obsessed with MX and the funny thing is it is all one way. never would a MX care or open a thread about waqooyi galbeed.
Not just MX, waa darood dhan. I have never seen this obsession towards Hawiye and other clans, if we're being honest which darood clan even thinks about Isaaq like that? Even on this forum and social media it's always them getting into our business. Seeing as their politics is so one dimensional (muh Independance), they feel the need to interject because they have been sidelined and ignored for the past 30 years, very frustrated individuals.

Thata nonsense if you mention somaliland on social media you will read comments of darood piglets insulting. Degrading isaaq it's almost unhealthy. Sheikh bilal Philips once mentioned somaliland when he wished reer somaliland eid mubarak they went. Crazy you should read the comments . Side lined be whom we wish nothing to do with your filthy clan doesn't mean we are sidelined. You should read the anti somaliland articles constantly posted by your kuumbows on wardheernews a website solely created to write anti somaliland articles. So who is obsessed with who.
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Somalia Pre-1969 Map, this is how Federal States should be based;
https://www.hiiraan.com/images/2013/Mar ... e_1969.jpg

If Mx really initiate this Plan to join Gedo with Bay and Bakool to form Alta Juba it will be the greatest clan comeback in the History of Somalia, from irrelevance of not having its own state to relevance now having its state, but i doubt it'll occur simply because of their low 68 IQ, they are too obsessed with Kismaayo to think strategically for long-term plans.
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Did you hear Gedo leaders mention this news? If not then it's most likely fake news being spread.

Kismayo and Gedo is connected for good.
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Kees70 wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:59 am


Somalia Pre-1969 Map, this is how Federal States should be based;
https://www.hiiraan.com/images/2013/Mar ... e_1969.jpg

If Mx really initiate this Plan to join Gedo with Bay and Bakool to form Alta Juba it will be the greatest clan comeback in the History of Somalia, from irrelevance of not having its own state to relevance now having its state, but i doubt it'll occur simply because of their low 68 IQ, they are too obsessed with Kismaayo to think strategically for long-term plans.
Long-term plan is to proper Jubbaland. Mx has deegans inside both lower jubba and middle juba. Why would we go form a state with Bakool when we don't extend there but RX extends to gedo? Jubbaland is no doubt a mx majority state. Ogaden knows this, which is why we see them inviting people from NFD to Dhoobley. What's even worse than that is settling people from DDS inside Kismayo District after kicking out local clans from their lands.
Ogaden's long-term plan is to get as many people as they could from DDS and settle them in lower jubba. Then negotiate with MX and others to make a real Jubbaland. Until that is possible they will continue using kenyan muscle to settle as much qaxooti as possible in lower jubba. Too bad Kenya's time is running out and it won't keep them there forever. The most IMPORTANT task for MX right now is liberating Middle Juba. Which is why we have a big army in Gedo.
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Sbashi wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:17 pm
Kees70 wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:59 am


Somalia Pre-1969 Map, this is how Federal States should be based;
https://www.hiiraan.com/images/2013/Mar ... e_1969.jpg

If Mx really initiate this Plan to join Gedo with Bay and Bakool to form Alta Juba it will be the greatest clan comeback in the History of Somalia, from irrelevance of not having its own state to relevance now having its state, but i doubt it'll occur simply because of their low 68 IQ, they are too obsessed with Kismaayo to think strategically for long-term plans.
Long-term plan is to proper Jubbaland. Mx has deegans inside both lower jubba and middle juba. Why would we go form a state with Bakool when we don't extend there but RX extends to gedo? Jubbaland is no doubt a mx majority state. Ogaden knows this, which is why we see them inviting people from NFD to Dhoobley. What's even worse than that is settling people from DDS inside Kismayo District after kicking out local clans from their lands.
Ogaden's long-term plan is to get as many people as they could from DDS and settle them in lower jubba. Then negotiate with MX and others to make a real Jubbaland. Until that is possible they will continue using kenyan muscle to settle as much qaxooti as possible in lower jubba. Too bad Kenya's time is running out and it won't keep them there forever. The most IMPORTANT task for MX right now is liberating Middle Juba. Which is why we have a big army in Gedo.
Beesha Ogaden are Landheere who played there cards right so far, hence why the have the upper hand in Jubaland.

As we all know Beesha Mx are holding on a life support here thanks to Farmaajo, but the day he leaves and Hawiye President is elected its when all the Hawiye and raxanweyne soldiers stationed in Gedo will leave, so logic dictates sxb that Beesha Mx think of their future and move precisely to Alta Juba before its too late and once that is achieved you have cornered the small Jubaland into coroner for future conquest into your Alta Juba.

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Kees70 wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:41 pm
Sbashi wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:17 pm
Kees70 wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:59 am


Somalia Pre-1969 Map, this is how Federal States should be based;
https://www.hiiraan.com/images/2013/Mar ... e_1969.jpg

If Mx really initiate this Plan to join Gedo with Bay and Bakool to form Alta Juba it will be the greatest clan comeback in the History of Somalia, from irrelevance of not having its own state to relevance now having its state, but i doubt it'll occur simply because of their low 68 IQ, they are too obsessed with Kismaayo to think strategically for long-term plans.
Long-term plan is to proper Jubbaland. Mx has deegans inside both lower jubba and middle juba. Why would we go form a state with Bakool when we don't extend there but RX extends to gedo? Jubbaland is no doubt a mx majority state. Ogaden knows this, which is why we see them inviting people from NFD to Dhoobley. What's even worse than that is settling people from DDS inside Kismayo District after kicking out local clans from their lands.
Ogaden's long-term plan is to get as many people as they could from DDS and settle them in lower jubba. Then negotiate with MX and others to make a real Jubbaland. Until that is possible they will continue using kenyan muscle to settle as much qaxooti as possible in lower jubba. Too bad Kenya's time is running out and it won't keep them there forever. The most IMPORTANT task for MX right now is liberating Middle Juba. Which is why we have a big army in Gedo.
Beesha Ogaden are Landheere who played there cards right so far, hence why the have the upper hand in Jubaland.

As we all know Beesha Mx are holding on a life support here thanks to Farmaajo, but the day he leaves and Hawiye President is elected its when all the Hawiye and raxanweyne soldiers stationed in Gedo will leave, so logic dictates sxb that Beesha Mx think of their future and move precisely to Alta Juba before its too late and once that is achieved you have cornered the small Jubaland into coroner for future conquest into your Alta Juba.

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You don't get it saxib. Is it MX holding on life support or is it Ogaden? We will talk again on August.
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Sbashi wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:17 pm The most IMPORTANT task for MX right now is liberating Middle Juba. Which is why we have a big army in Gedo.
Liberation of middle Juba will probably start later this year after the grand assembly of all Jubbalands clans in the real capital Garbaharey. Reconciliation and other things are on the table. Im sure Gedo army can liberate middle juba it's the most capable force in Jubbaland.
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