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Gubbet wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:23 pm It makes a lot of sense Saddam.

1. They always stress the difference between Ahmed Gurey theory and the Emir Nur "known." For example, in this report ghey stressed hr was "Pure" Marehan as in much lower ambiguity than Gurey.

2. Gurey is not definitively described nor uniqur claimed by one group---he is claimed by every group pretty much.

3. Not everyone is relevant to the history though. Geri Koombe are as important ad Marehan of the Somalis to this issue. I mean Marehan is not "more" important in this story. They literally both are equally thr most important Somali groups in thks story, follow4f H Makaadu, etc.

4. While Amin Nur married Gurey's wife, the Geri leader was married to Imam's sister! That is exceptionally as important as dumaal for deducing linkages.

5. Finally, the Geri had the best relationship out of the two with the Imam. I mean kf you look ay a scenerio like Farmaajo vs Janan, the central leader vs wily wilay, eccentric regional leader of their clan and the central leader having to go in and disclpline his clan behind him you can understand the possibilities but still the fact fhat Geri has a better relation is usuallh, but not always, the nest indicator for ties.

I would pick Gerri claim over anyone else too if I were an objective observer

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:20 am

Gubbet wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:23 pm It makes a lot of sense Saddam.

1. They always stress the difference between Ahmed Gurey theory and the Emir Nur "known." For example, in this report ghey stressed hr was "Pure" Marehan as in much lower ambiguity than Gurey.

2. Gurey is not definitively described nor uniqur claimed by one group---he is claimed by every group pretty much.

3. Not everyone is relevant to the history though. Geri Koombe are as important ad Marehan of the Somalis to this issue. I mean Marehan is not "more" important in this story. They literally both are equally thr most important Somali groups in thks story, follow4f H Makaadu, etc.

4. While Amin Nur married Gurey's wife, the Geri leader was married to Imam's sister! That is exceptionally as important as dumaal for deducing linkages.

5. Finally, the Geri had the best relationship out of the two with the Imam. I mean kf you look ay a scenerio like Farmaajo vs Janan, the central leader vs wily wilay, eccentric regional leader of their clan and the central leader having to go in and disclpline his clan behind him you can understand the possibilities but still the fact fhat Geri has a better relation is usuallh, but not always, the nest indicator for ties.

I would pick Gerri claim over anyone else too if I were an objective observer

Very salient points. I respect claims that is backed by contemporary records and oral tradition that match up. Geri and Marehan played the most significant roles in the saga alongside Jidwaaq as well. Thank you for sharing this with me my man. You taught me a lot.

XimanJaale wrote: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:54 pm Can you guys post sources that were produced before 1969. Some non-Marehans belief anything written after 1969 is fabricated. So for their sake just post something pre1969. Just saying