Picturesque Mogadishu captured by the USC on this January 30 1991 picture, why did it turn out the way it did Sahal ?

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[sahal80]

i dont like to be stuck in the past but i will try to explain for one time.


Omar Arte disbanded the SNA because the north was not liberated until ten days after the liberation of Mogadishu. This was the biggest mistake suddenly we were without an army, police and every soldier has returned to his region even within the USC regions and we have seen big collapse of security and loss of hope bc they were expecting to work for the new Govt.

Second mistake was that the USC did not had an agreed upon leader like the other Jabhado. There was a military wing from the central regions particularly HG and Hawadle led by Gen Aideed which launched from inside Ethiopia in a village belonging to Hawadle called Farjano

There was a political wing affiliated with Abgal led by Hussein Haji Bood and Ali Mahdi as the head of its central committee. This wing was an extension of the founder of the USC Ali wardhiigley who was a Murusade who died in Italy around 1989 the same year he founded it in Italy after him they elected in Xamar a lawyer from Abgal whose name was Osoble who wrote the famous manifesto bayaan and then he fled abroad and died about 1990, strange coincidences! This man believed in peaceful work but then dictator killed most of the signatories of the statement and this ignited the uprising. After him they chose Hussein Haji Bood to succeed Osole this one was not agreed upon and in his time Aideed was an ambassador in India and on one occasion he was approached by the Ethiopian ambassador and then NISA asked him to return immediately and he knew that there was a conspiracy against him so he fled to Italy and from there to Ethiopia to our village and before him there was a gorilla war in Hiiraan and Galgaduud after which we received Strong support from Ethiopia because they were behind Aideed and before him they had agreement with Siyaad Barre who who gave up on Ogaden saying not to support each sides jabhad so we were the attacking the SNA bases to get arms and we moved inside we couldnt attack from EThiopia until Aideed arrived i think bc they were sure about him that he will capture Mogadishu

Aidid asked to be the head of the Jabhad in Ethiopia but Hawadle refused and they told him that only you would lead the army and when we reach Xamar we will organize a general conference to elect you in agreement with the political wing in Xamar but all the north and Villa Wardhiigley fell into the hands of Abigaal so they declared Ali Mahdi as an interim president. this pissed off the military wing however Hawadle organized a conference in their Hotel Guuleed and suggested that Mahdi continues as an interim president for two years and we elected Aidid as the head of the USC and his deputy Hawadle(actually my jufo) there is famous phares by Hawadle saying at that time Ali Gar leh Caydiidna Jid leh wich can be translated both are right bc they didnt want to forced to pick one side but it was all about to reach compromise. i will show you our tikno from the airport going to Ali mahdi and Caydiid by this time.

and after that the USC would organize general elections with the other Jabhado. Ali Mahdi gave up the YSC leadership for Caydiid but Aidid did not give up on the presidency and things got worse after Ali Mahdi was elected president in Djibouti but my tribe used to deal with the two until it clashed with Aideed in the mid 90s and joined Ali Mahdi.

Because there was no unified leadership the USC has failed to come up with a working alternative agenda.


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[SunFromNorth]

i dont like to be stuck in the past but i will try to explain for one time.


Omar Arte disbanded the SNA because the north was not liberated until ten days after the liberation of Mogadishu. This was the biggest mistake suddenly we were without an army, police and every soldier has returned to his region even within the USC regions and we have seen big collapse of security and loss of hope bc they were expecting to work for the new Govt.

Second mistake was that the USC did not had an agreed upon leader like the other Jabhado. There was a military wing from the central regions particularly HG and Hawadle led by Gen Aideed which launched from inside Ethiopia in a village belonging to Hawadle called Farjano

There was a political wing affiliated with Abgal led by Hussein Haji Bood and Ali Mahdi as the head of its central committee. This wing was an extension of the founder of the USC Ali wardhiigley who was a Murusade who died in Italy around 1989 the same year he founded it in Italy after him they elected in Xamar a lawyer from Abgal whose name was Osoble who wrote the famous manifesto bayaan and then he fled abroad and died about 1990, strange coincidences! This man believed in peaceful work but then dictator killed most of the signatories of the statement and this ignited the uprising. After him they chose Hussein Haji Bood to succeed Osole this one was not agreed upon and in his time Aideed was an ambassador in India and on one occasion he was approached by the Ethiopian ambassador and then NISA asked him to return immediately and he knew that there was a conspiracy against him so he fled to Italy and from there to Ethiopia to our village and before him there was a gorilla war in Hiiraan and Galgaduud after which we received Strong support from Ethiopia because they were behind Aideed and before him they had agreement with Siyaad Barre who who gave up on Ogaden saying not to support each sides jabhad so we were the attacking the SNA bases to get arms and we moved inside we couldnt attack from EThiopia until Aideed arrived i think bc they were sure about him that he will capture Mogadishu

Aidid asked to be the head of the Jabhad in Ethiopia but Hawadle refused and they told him that only you would lead the army and when we reach Xamar we will organize a general conference to elect you in agreement with the political wing in Xamar but all the north and Villa Wardhiigley fell into the hands of Abigaal so they declared Ali Mahdi as an interim president. this pissed off the military wing however Hawadle organized a conference in their Hotel Guuleed and suggested that Mahdi continues as an interim president for two years and we elected Aidid as the head of the USC and his deputy Hawadle(actually my jufo) there is famous phares by Hawadle saying at that time Ali Gar leh Caydiidna Jid leh wich can be translated both are right bc they didnt want to forced to pick one side but it was all about to reach compromise. i will show you our tikno from the airport going to Ali mahdi and Caydiid by this time.

and after that the USC would organize general elections with the other Jabhado. Ali Mahdi gave up the YSC leadership for Caydiid but Aidid did not give up on the presidency and things got worse after Ali Mahdi was elected president in Djibouti but my tribe used to deal with the two until it clashed with Aideed in the mid 90s and joined Ali Mahdi.

Because there was no unified leadership the USC has failed to come up with a working alternative agenda.


this is our tikniko

There is no way Ali wardhiigley and Osooble just happen to " die " they were clearly murdered. But thanks for explaining what happen to the USC power struggle, I think they man in your video was killed by Al shabab terror attack in Hiiraan 2008 some Haawadle x USC leader died I remember

[sahal80]

i dont like to be stuck in the past but i will try to explain for one time.


Omar Arte disbanded the SNA because the north was not liberated until ten days after the liberation of Mogadishu. This was the biggest mistake suddenly we were without an army, police and every soldier has returned to his region even within the USC regions and we have seen big collapse of security and loss of hope bc they were expecting to work for the new Govt.

Second mistake was that the USC did not had an agreed upon leader like the other Jabhado. There was a military wing from the central regions particularly HG and Hawadle led by Gen Aideed which launched from inside Ethiopia in a village belonging to Hawadle called Farjano

There was a political wing affiliated with Abgal led by Hussein Haji Bood and Ali Mahdi as the head of its central committee. This wing was an extension of the founder of the USC Ali wardhiigley who was a Murusade who died in Italy around 1989 the same year he founded it in Italy after him they elected in Xamar a lawyer from Abgal whose name was Osoble who wrote the famous manifesto bayaan and then he fled abroad and died about 1990, strange coincidences! This man believed in peaceful work but then dictator killed most of the signatories of the statement and this ignited the uprising. After him they chose Hussein Haji Bood to succeed Osole this one was not agreed upon and in his time Aideed was an ambassador in India and on one occasion he was approached by the Ethiopian ambassador and then NISA asked him to return immediately and he knew that there was a conspiracy against him so he fled to Italy and from there to Ethiopia to our village and before him there was a gorilla war in Hiiraan and Galgaduud after which we received Strong support from Ethiopia because they were behind Aideed and before him they had agreement with Siyaad Barre who who gave up on Ogaden saying not to support each sides jabhad so we were the attacking the SNA bases to get arms and we moved inside we couldnt attack from EThiopia until Aideed arrived i think bc they were sure about him that he will capture Mogadishu

Aidid asked to be the head of the Jabhad in Ethiopia but Hawadle refused and they told him that only you would lead the army and when we reach Xamar we will organize a general conference to elect you in agreement with the political wing in Xamar but all the north and Villa Wardhiigley fell into the hands of Abigaal so they declared Ali Mahdi as an interim president. this pissed off the military wing however Hawadle organized a conference in their Hotel Guuleed and suggested that Mahdi continues as an interim president for two years and we elected Aidid as the head of the USC and his deputy Hawadle(actually my jufo) there is famous phares by Hawadle saying at that time Ali Gar leh Caydiidna Jid leh wich can be translated both are right bc they didnt want to forced to pick one side but it was all about to reach compromise. i will show you our tikno from the airport going to Ali mahdi and Caydiid by this time.

and after that the USC would organize general elections with the other Jabhado. Ali Mahdi gave up the YSC leadership for Caydiid but Aidid did not give up on the presidency and things got worse after Ali Mahdi was elected president in Djibouti but my tribe used to deal with the two until it clashed with Aideed in the mid 90s and joined Ali Mahdi.

Because there was no unified leadership the USC has failed to come up with a working alternative agenda.


this is our tikniko

There is no way Ali wardhiigley and Osooble just happen to " die " they were clearly murdered. But thanks for explaining what happen to the USC power struggle, I think they man in your video was killed by Al shabab terror attack in Hiiraan 2008 some Haawadle x USC leader died I remember

that man is called Osman Jeele aka jidka ama jeele. he graduated from egypt and arabic school in Xamar so he was kinda kacaan envoy for carabta. him and then Saudi interior who is prince were colleagues at Cairo university so he was jailed and released after a rebellion in Hiiraan known as jidka ama jeele and then was exiled to Saudi Arabia. the video shows when he came back but after the USC infighting he went back to Saudi Arabia and left the politics forever! he has a daughter who is a pilot when he got too old he moved to his family in austaralia. he gave scholarship in Saudi Arabia to alot of people

topic about him
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=354973

It was only two months between deathst of Wardhiigley and Osoble! sorry USC was founded in 1988


"Ururka USC waxa uu ahaa kan ugu da’da yar saddexda urur ee ugu horreeyey ee ku jabhadeeya Xukuumaddii Siyaad Barre. Labada kale oo kale ahaa SSDF oo la aasaasay 1979 iyo SNM (Somali National Movement). USC waxaa aasaasay Cali Maxamed Wardhiigley, sannadkii 1988, kuna aasaasay magaalda Rome. Cali Wardhiigley oo muddo saddex sano (1984-1987) ahaa guddoomiye ku-xigeenka ururka SNM ayaa laga soo eryey ururkan, maadaama uu ahaa urur hadafkiisu iyo udub-dhexaadkiisu yahay beesha Isaaq. Caradii uu ka soo qaaday SNM ayaa sabab u noqotay in USC abuuranto. Hase ahaate, waxaa SNM ku haray kooxo dhalasho ahaan ka soo jeeda beesha Hawiye, gaar ahaan Habar Gidir.



Cali Wardhiigley waxa uu geeryooday April 1990, waxaana durbadiiba hoggaanka USC loo magaacabay Dr. Ismaaciil Jumcaale Cosoble. Ayaandarro se, Ismaaciil Jimcaale waxaa uu isagana geeryooday labo bil ka dib (July 1990). Waxaa markaa ka dib hoggaanka USC la wareegay waxa loogu yeeray “Guddiga Fulinta” ee USC, oo ay ka mid ahaayeen Cali Mahdi, Xuseen Xaaji Bod, Axmed Maxamed Darmaan, iyo Maxamed Nur Galaal. Hoggaanka guddigan ayaa u horseeday ururka USC inuu u xuubsiibto urur qori caaraddiis wax ku raadiya (guerrilla force).



Waxaa iyana xasuus mudan in sannadkii 1990-ka uu soo ifbaxay garab kale ee ururka USC, uuna horboodayey General Maxamed Faarax Caydiid. Garabkan USC ayaa heshiis iskaashi dhinac walba ah la galay ururada SNM iyo SPM"
http://www.biyokulule.com/Qalyodhaan.htm

[Phinks]

Darood had plenty of in fighting, no need to look further than the atrocities committed in Kismayo and Galkacyo. That's why puntland was quicker to stabilise, there were no clans (besides maxamud salebaan capturing bossaso briefly) to contest MJ administration.