Reference for "Gedo has the most camels of any region on Somalia"

[Gubbet]

The reference and some notes since it has been requested more than once.


World Bank natural assets of Somalia study ----> http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/ ... y-2018.pdf



Note:Gedo's largest and most sizable minority is Rahanweyn and as you can see from Bay, they definitely are not prone to owning much livestock having completely foregone infavor of settled farming.

You can imagine then that the livestock numbers of Gedo represent Marehan completely.

3 other observations

1. Southerners as agricultural people do not rear much camels apart from Marehan...they do love their cattle though understandably
2. Hiiraan is the other region that comes close to the numbers and impressive quantities of all 4 groups of livestock...unlike Gedo though, Hiiraan numbers are shared by huge diversity of pastoral clans like Xawaadle, Gaaljecel, Jajeele, Baadicadde, Habar Gidir, Murusade, Sheekhaal, etc.
3. Somaliland and northerners in general (including regions like Nugaal) are huge in sheep numbers and some in goats (Sanaag has the most of both)...they do not rear much cattle though understandably

Remember are heirloom for a reason

P. S. Recall also that Caabudwaaq district has the most camels of any district in central Somalia so much of Galgaduud and Mudug numbers belong to Marehan and that upwards of 1/2 or more even of Bakool's herd are really Marehan's there for the short wet season (the long wet season they pass Bakool to Afdheer and Cherity and the short and long dry seasons they are either Ceel-waaq to Diif for short and Luuq to Afmadoow not far from the Jubba River in long dry season).

[NGM]

Gedo has more livestock than Galgaduud and Mudug, and there are MX in both those regions, so hands down MX is one of the richest clan in Somalia, we just don't know it as its spread out per capita, good info.

Also Lower and Middle Jubba, and as you said neighboring Bay and Bakool, heck Doollo and Qoraxeey, these are the real metrics to measure clan wealth. Not odd hotels and companies where many clans hold share in and work in.

[Gubbet]

Correct NGM.

See a recent response I gave correcting the misinformation surrounding why the Marehan Union Party or Partitio Unione Merēhān formed.

A little known fact, They were the first Somali group to create their own clan party around the same time Somalis created SYL. I believe it was called Sade Party. Real selfish.

This is factually incorrect and offensive.

Probably the single most underestimated or least understood aspect about Marehan is ironically the single most underestimated or ignored aspect about the Somali people and culture since the development of a State and focus on developed world concept of State economy----namely livestock.

Somalia doesn't produce or manufacture; there is only really something resembling a service industry providing communication and remittance process. Those entities are themselves are very saturated and ad hoc, even Dahabshiil, for example, barely generates enough revenue for profit after expenses are subtracted.

Somali wealth, then and as the same today, is livestock---this is the hard currency form of measuring assets and equity in Somalia.

And Marehan are rich in livestock. Actually, it would not be an understatement to say looking at historical + modern UNDP estimated that Marehan, per capita relative to other Somali sub-clans, are actually even "fabulously" wealthy in livestock, particularly camels. I mean Gedo has more camels than entire territory of Somaliland in the last major UN est.

I mean no one even asks "how" Marehan financed the huge Galti migration in the early 20th century. You don't do something like that in the entire earth without huge financing how ever your culture understands that.

The point I am making is, Marehan of Lugh Ferrandi District (which is about 60-70% of Gedo Region today) made the Marehan Union Party or Unione Merehan---because of livestock interests.

The Italians---eho were brought back under UN Trusteeship to "prepare" Somalia for independence---declared that Marehan control of the livestock industry in the Jubba Valley was an "extreme monopoly."

They wanted to break it up and the election came on the heels of this huge issue between Marehan and the Trusteeship.

HDM was the political opposition---but it became a crisis after the SYL Party failed to declare a position on the issue.

Marehan was SYL constituency so obviously they were not going to declare in favor of the proposition---but they didn't declare against it for fear of losing votes among other clans in the region.

Because Marehan was already counted SYL and because they had no other options (irony of the SYL monopoly as a single party for all Samaale and HDM for all DM), the SYL took the Marehan for granted when they made the political position.

So the Marehan of Lugh-Ferrandi said "ok, Mr. Double Speak---we will see about that."

They took the extraordinary step of its time to declare a Marehan Union Party and face against BOTH SYL AND HDM.

And the Marehan Union party won which was followed by the Italians dropping the heavy handed proposition---of politically interfering in the natural Somali based free market livestock business in southern Somalia.

Which was followed by Marehan of Lugh-Ferrandi dissolving Unione Merehan and going back to caucus with SYL.







https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 9#p4998698

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gubbet,

I demand you drop more information on the Marehan Union Party. And I never demanded any information from you before. But this is important to both me and NGM

[mahoka]

Hahahahajahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


That wallahi made me chuckle. Keep up these entertaining threads my friend

[Gubbet]

Saddam, what exactly would you like to find out?

[barbarossa]

Hahahahajahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


That wallahi made me chuckle. Keep up these entertaining threads my friend

It is true, sheydaanka waa kala cawdubileystaan. Mid kaa yaabsadey aad aragtey.

[DrKheyre]

Marehan Union Party legendary shit. at the helm we have the young Governor of Luuq, Minister of Interior, Minister of Justice, member of Parliament and business magnate Adan Shire Jamaac Low. Mashallah

[Northkil6]

Mashallah this is mind blowing !!!
Aden low was married to my Habaryar muraayad who was the curada of awoowe xaaji xaashi jaamac geri, she recently passed alla ha u wada naxariisto.
Thanks again gubbet

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Saddam, what exactly would you like to find out?

Adan Loow and the certain “prophecy” or that’s still gonna be in the vaults? Who were the actual founders and their subs etc

[STARKAST]

The reference and some notes since it has been requested more than once.


World Bank natural assets of Somalia study ----> http://documents.worldbank.org/curated/ ... y-2018.pdf



Note:Gedo's largest and most sizable minority is Rahanweyn and as you can see from Bay, they definitely are not prone to owning much livestock having completely foregone infavor of settled farming.

You can imagine then that the livestock numbers of Gedo represent Marehan completely.

3 other observations

1. Southerners as agricultural people do not rear much camels apart from Marehan...they do love their cattle though understandably
2. Hiiraan is the other region that comes close to the numbers and impressive quantities of all 4 groups of livestock...unlike Gedo though, Hiiraan numbers are shared by huge diversity of pastoral clans like Xawaadle, Gaaljecel, Jajeele, Baadicadde, Habar Gidir, Murusade, Sheekhaal, etc.
3. Somaliland and northerners in general (including regions like Nugaal) are huge in sheep numbers and some in goats (Sanaag has the most of both)...they do not rear much cattle though understandably

Remember are heirloom for a reason

P. S. Recall also that Caabudwaaq district has the most camels of any district in central Somalia so much of Galgaduud and Mudug numbers belong to Marehan and that upwards of 1/2 or more even of Bakool's herd are really Marehan's there for the short wet season (the long wet season they pass Bakool to Afdheer and Cherity and the short and long dry seasons they are either Ceel-waaq to Diif for short and Luuq to Afmadoow not far from the Jubba River in long dry season).

Can you prove your statement that CwaK has the most camels in any district in central somalia.
Also can you prove that mx own most of the camels in Galgaduud and Mudug aswell as the majority of Bakool herds.

Extreme claims and no evidence !

Also can you provide other sources that state Gedo has the most camels ? 1 source is not enough.

[STARKAST]

Saddam, what exactly would you like to find out?

Adan Loow and the certain “prophecy” or that’s still gonna be in the vaults? Who were the actual founders and their subs etc

Most people think MX history started with Kacaan, but i think it really started with Adan Loow.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Starkast,


Marehan history is long and underrated. In my opinion, the Kacaan buried Marehan history or deemphasized it to promote other regions and clans especially Kabalax kkk that’s my opinion. This should’ve been the mainstream history imho. And I think MSB did that not to seem qabiileste. But some still called him qabiileste lmao. You can’t win with xoolo 68IQ

[Sbashi]

Saddam, what exactly would you like to find out?

Adan Loow and the certain “prophecy” or that’s still gonna be in the vaults? Who were the actual founders and their subs etc

Most people think MX history started with Kacaan, but i think it really started with Adan Loow.

Didn't you hear about the emir of somalis in Harar . It goes like this, "The somalis with their emiru hiraabu."

[DrKheyre]

@NorthKil6 Murayad was a relative of mine as well i loved her so much, a very strong woman AUN farmajo placed security to her burial. he doesnt forget his roots