The differences between HSM and Farmajo

[MrSinister]

I was just listening to an interview and questions with HSM on Twitter spaces by Garowe Online. I couldn’t help but notice how great of a communicator the former president is. Farmajo on the other hand even outside of his disastrous politics is one of the worst communicators in Somali history (both in English and Somali). This guy took two hours to prepare for a ten minute address.

Whatever mistakes HSM has made in the past, at the very least he believes in federalism, attempts to find political solutions to difficult challenges and did not spend his time as president dealing with the grievances of his clan like Farmajo.

[TarTar]

the governor of Budhcadland always undermine who ever holds the office of FGS prez. HSM n Farmajo both know tha pirates hate a strong FGS no matter who become prez. Unless a Piratelander gets that office n even then they would still govern Pland as a secessionist state

[MrSinister]

the governor of Budhcadland always undermine who ever holds the office of FGS prez. HSM n Farmajo both know tha pirates hate a strong FGS no matter who become prez. Unless a Piratelander gets that office n even then they would still govern Pland as a secessionist state

Puntland supports autonomy for all states in Somalia including Somaliland. Farmajo was the one who attempted to destroy federalism and go back to kacaan rule. His failed attempt at dictatorship is something all Somalis condemned.

[TarTar]

the governor of Budhcadland always undermine who ever holds the office of FGS prez. HSM n Farmajo both know tha pirates hate a strong FGS no matter who become prez. Unless a Piratelander gets that office n even then they would still govern Pland as a secessionist state

Puntland supports autonomy for all states in Somalia including Somaliland. Farmajo was the one who attempted to destroy federalism and go back to kacaan rule. His failed attempt at dictatorship is something all Somalis condemned.

Pland autonomy is euphemism for complete independence of Pland

y governor Gas governor, Farole governor, governor Adde Muse, n now governor Deni undermine their respective FGS presidents

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Well said saaxiib.

[paperino]

I was just listening to an interview and questions with HSM on Twitter spaces by Garowe Online. I couldn’t help but notice how great of a communicator the former president is. Farmajo on the other hand even outside of his disastrous politics is one of the worst communicators in Somali history (both in English and Somali). This guy took two hours to prepare for a ten minute address.

Whatever mistakes HSM has made in the past, at the very least he believes in federalism, attempts to find political solutions to difficult challenges and did not spend his time as president dealing with the grievances of his clan like Farmajo.

Your observation on the communication skills between the two has some credence. Somalis are an oral society whereby someone who isn't a poet or with poor communication skills is rendered/viewed as a handicap. If we test other skills such as physical or administration between the two, Farmaajo would easily outperform HSM. And that's due to something akin to functional compensation; you compensate the skills you lack with other skills that can be better. This is why they say you don't judge a book by its cover. For me, Farmaajo's communication skills are satisfactory, and it doesn't matter (at least to beesha 0.5) that he isn't a poet.

[Gubbet]

Hassan Sheekh is very mediocre. Substantively and eloquently for his attributes. Sheikh Sharif is more traditionally eloquent in Somali terms.

You seem to show a problem with context also going by your statement on Ilhan Omar vs Ahmed Hussen (they represent different products of different countries with different stages of growth in multiracial dynamics).

Similarly Farmaajo is the "first"(quite literally the FIRST) MAIN Somali political actor with a completely urban background. I mean completely urbanized from birth to Presidency and from a home culture from that dynamic. The reer Farmaajo were very urban, his father named for the love of cheese.

Do you even know that Farmaajo Sr's actual uncle was ADAN LOOW? Yeah this same Adan Loow fighting for the partisans in Italy in 1939 when Aadan Cadde and Cabdirisaaq Haji Hussein were herding (as they said of their biography).

All the way on the right.


Btw by urban I don't mean being born in Xamar or a town, but culturally and stylistically urban.

Farmaajo speaks eloquently, but his eloquence isn't prose cultivated listening next to campfire; it is strategic, impactful, unprepossessed.

It is hardy calories that fill and keep the worker working all day rather than 5 course meal of one taste of $2000 caviar.

If you listen to Farmaajo, wallahi you can get a direct answer on something you could never truly find an answer from 5 of the best Somali speakers.

Flair is beautiful and shiny and even alluring, captivating even.

But you need course cotton if you really protection from the elements.

[Gubbet]

I was just listening to an interview and questions with HSM on Twitter spaces by Garowe Online. I couldn’t help but notice how great of a communicator the former president is. Farmajo on the other hand even outside of his disastrous politics is one of the worst communicators in Somali history (both in English and Somali). This guy took two hours to prepare for a ten minute address.

Whatever mistakes HSM has made in the past, at the very least he believes in federalism, attempts to find political solutions to difficult challenges and did not spend his time as president dealing with the grievances of his clan like Farmajo.

Your observation on the communication skills between the two has some credence. Somalis are an oral society whereby someone who isn't a poet or with poor communication skills is rendered/viewed as a handicap. If we test other skills such as physical or administration between the two, Farmaajo would easily outperform HSM. And that's due to something akin to functional compensation; you compensate the skills you lack with other skills that can be better. This is why they say you don't judge a book by its cover. For me, Farmaajo's communication skills are satisfactory, and it doesn't matter (at least to beesha 0.5) that he isn't a poet.

[NGM]

Farmaajo's speech impediment is endearing and the Somali people love it, specially when he over comes it completely in some of his speeches, he is still the underdog in this arena, which isn't a bad thing since politicians are known for beautiful speeches packed with lies, just look at madoobe. The last speech Farmaajo made was better than Denis, but he is not resentful or boasting, he is like a happy kid.

The other side of Farmaajo is extremely high IQ and very capable leader.

[Gubbet]

Farmaajo's speech impediment is endearing and the Somali people love it, specially when he over comes it completely in some of his speeches, he is still the underdog in this arena, which isn't a bad thing since politicians are known for beautiful speeches packed with lies, just look at madoobe. The last speech Farmaajo made was better than Denis, but he is not resentful or boasting, he is like a happy kid.

The other side of Farmaajo is extremely high IQ and very capable leader.

You mean Shrewd. Cunning. Maybe even sociopathetic. Probably a master manipulator. Certainly extremely self-absorbed. Tie all that in with clever bordering on amphibian/ camouflage level.

It is why he is an excellent politician and has run laps over them.

If a devil is out there, you better pray he is in your side.

[MrSinister]

Farmaajo's speech impediment is endearing and the Somali people love it, specially when he over comes it completely in some of his speeches, he is still the underdog in this arena, which isn't a bad thing since politicians are known for beautiful speeches packed with lies, just look at madoobe. The last speech Farmaajo made was better than Denis, but he is not resentful or boasting, he is like a happy kid.

The other side of Farmaajo is extremely high IQ and very capable leader.

I didn’t know he had a genuine speech impediment. To be honest, I don’t think he speaks Somali or English very well from what I’ve gathered. Maybe it’s nerves.

Also, what I.Q? What skills does this guy posses? His foreign policy, relationship with donors has been a disaster, Shabab controls much of the south, and he has not be able to get along with the major state leaders in Somalia. He has been way over his head, HSM has been much more of statesmen than him and has more accomplishments under his belt. Farmajo got away with a lot because of the Trump presidency hands off approach.

The man has been a disaster, and even worse, he surrounds himself with amateur advisors from his clan whose only purpose is to destabilize Jubbaland and Gedo. Majority of Somali academics and NGO do not support him. The only people behind him are Cbb trolls. I’ve yet to see any skills failmajo has demonstrated unless putting the country on the brink of war and having your PM up stage you is a skill.

[NGM]

Farmaajo's speech impediment is endearing and the Somali people love it, specially when he over comes it completely in some of his speeches, he is still the underdog in this arena, which isn't a bad thing since politicians are known for beautiful speeches packed with lies, just look at madoobe. The last speech Farmaajo made was better than Denis, but he is not resentful or boasting, he is like a happy kid.

The other side of Farmaajo is extremely high IQ and very capable leader.

I didn’t know he had a genuine speech impediment. To be honest, I don’t think he speaks Somali or English very well from what I’ve gathered. Maybe it’s nerves.

Also, what I.Q? What skills does this guy posses? His foreign policy, relationship with donors has been a disaster, Shabab controls much of the south, and he has not be able to get along with the major state leaders in Somalia. He has been way over his head, HSM has been much more of statesmen than him and has more accomplishments under his belt. Farmajo got away with a lot because of the Trump presidency hands off approach.

The man has been a disaster, and even worse, he surrounds himself with amateur advisors from his clan whose only purpose is to destabilize Jubbaland and Gedo. Majority of Somali academics and NGO do not support him. The only people behind him are Cbb trolls. I’ve yet to see any skills failmajo has demonstrated unless putting the country on the brink of war and having your PM up stage you is a skill.

You are just anti-Somalia in general, but your economically dependent desert state can't call for independence like Somaliland, this is the reality, you have opposed every single President except for Abdulahi Yusuf the butcher of Xamar.