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Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:16 pm 2013 Al Shabaab controlled parts of Mogadishu.
You are beyond outdated.
Research "DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT".
A dynamic enviromment like a warzone can have a decade's worth of "changes" in a single year.
Things are "DYNAMIC" not "STATIC."
8 years ago might as well be a century ago.
Your doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:20 pm
Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.
To be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pmYour doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:20 pm
Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.
I have equity in this issue. You have an agenda. Learn English.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pmTo be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pmYour doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:20 pm
Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.
Can you please troll some where else? I'm actually trying to educate myself on this and I'm interested to hear from people who are from the region. Not someone from mudug who wants to carry water for a failed dictator.Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:33 pmI have equity in this issue. You have an agenda. Learn English.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pmTo be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pm
Your doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:36 pmCan you please troll some where else? I'm actually trying to educate myself on this and I'm interested to hear from people who are from the region. Not someone from mudug who wants to carry water for a failed dictator.Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:33 pmI have equity in this issue. You have an agenda. Learn English.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pm
To be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.
Nice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:50 pm Anyways, back to my point. There is potential for serious conflict in the region if an election that is seen as not being fair to one community or another were to happen. I think the international community should be made aware of these issues and the potential an election in gedo can have in inflaming intra clan tensions. The way to avoid all of this is for all of the elections for JL MP's to happen in Kismayo, that way no community in Gedo feels they have been discriminated against.
I don't think the donors understand the pandora's box they've opened. You can't have elections when there hasn't been serious reconciliation in Gedo. You are being short-sighted sxb.grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 pmNice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:50 pm Anyways, back to my point. There is potential for serious conflict in the region if an election that is seen as not being fair to one community or another were to happen. I think the international community should be made aware of these issues and the potential an election in gedo can have in inflaming intra clan tensions. The way to avoid all of this is for all of the elections for JL MP's to happen in Kismayo, that way no community in Gedo feels they have been discriminated against.
No one is more marginalized than the non MS in Puntland. But you dont see me making topics about that not my business.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:07 pmI don't think the donors understand the pandora's box they've opened. You can't have elections when there hasn't been serious reconciliation in Gedo. You are being short-sighted sxb.grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 pmNice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:50 pm Anyways, back to my point. There is potential for serious conflict in the region if an election that is seen as not being fair to one community or another were to happen. I think the international community should be made aware of these issues and the potential an election in gedo can have in inflaming intra clan tensions. The way to avoid all of this is for all of the elections for JL MP's to happen in Kismayo, that way no community in Gedo feels they have been discriminated against.
It’s a public forum, why are you lot so sensitive? Go ahead and start a topic on PL. I could care less.grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:51 pmNo one is more marginalized than the non MS in Puntland. But you dont see me making topics about that not my business.MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:07 pmI don't think the donors understand the pandora's box they've opened. You can't have elections when there hasn't been serious reconciliation in Gedo. You are being short-sighted sxb.grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 pm
Nice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.