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Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:05 pm
by MrSinister
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:16 pm
by Gubbet
2013 Al Shabaab controlled parts of Mogadishu.
You are beyond outdated.
Research "DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT".
A dynamic enviromment like a warzone can have a decade's worth of "changes" in a single year.
Things are "DYNAMIC" not "STATIC."
8 years ago might as well be a century ago.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:20 pm
by MrSinister
Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:16 pm
2013 Al Shabaab controlled parts of Mogadishu.
You are beyond outdated.
Research "DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT".
A dynamic enviromment like a warzone can have a decade's worth of "changes" in a single year.
Things are "DYNAMIC" not "STATIC."
8 years ago might as well be a century ago.
Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pm
by Gubbet
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:20 pm
Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.
Your doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pm
by MrSinister
Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:20 pm
Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.
Your doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.
To be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:33 pm
by Gubbet
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:20 pm
Fair enough. I doubt the clan issues have changed much though.
Your doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.
To be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.
I have equity in this issue. You have an agenda. Learn English.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:36 pm
by MrSinister
Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:33 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:23 pm
Your doubts have no relevance to scientific evidence except to preclude your objectivity.
To be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.
I have equity in this issue. You have an agenda. Learn English.
Can you please troll some where else? I'm actually trying to educate myself on this and I'm interested to hear from people who are from the region. Not someone from mudug who wants to carry water for a failed dictator.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:38 pm
by Gubbet
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:36 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:33 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:26 pm
To be honest, you have an agenda, so I expected this response from you. I'm interested in hearing from people in the region.
I have equity in this issue. You have an agenda. Learn English.
Can you please troll some where else? I'm actually trying to educate myself on this and I'm interested to hear from people who are from the region. Not someone from mudug who wants to carry water for a failed dictator.

Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:50 pm
by MrSinister
Anyways, back to my point. There is potential for serious conflict in the region if an election that is seen as not being fair to one community or another were to happen. I think the international community should be made aware of these issues and the potential an election in gedo can have in inflaming intra clan tensions. The way to avoid all of this is for all of the elections for JL MP's to happen in Kismayo, that way no community in Gedo feels they have been discriminated against.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 pm
by grandpakhalif
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:50 pm
Anyways, back to my point. There is potential for serious conflict in the region if an election that is seen as not being fair to one community or another were to happen. I think the international community should be made aware of these issues and the potential an election in gedo can have in inflaming intra clan tensions. The way to avoid all of this is for all of the elections for JL MP's to happen in Kismayo, that way no community in Gedo feels they have been discriminated against.
Nice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:07 pm
by MrSinister
grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:50 pm
Anyways, back to my point. There is potential for serious conflict in the region if an election that is seen as not being fair to one community or another were to happen. I think the international community should be made aware of these issues and the potential an election in gedo can have in inflaming intra clan tensions. The way to avoid all of this is for all of the elections for JL MP's to happen in Kismayo, that way no community in Gedo feels they have been discriminated against.
Nice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.
I don't think the donors understand the pandora's box they've opened. You can't have elections when there hasn't been serious reconciliation in Gedo. You are being short-sighted sxb.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:25 pm
by MrSinister
I'm also trying to understand the reer guri and galti conflict in Gedo. I was under the impression that Reer Hassan and Talhe were reer guri.
"Guri vs. galti: The Marehan in Gedo include guri (‘original inhabitant’) communities and galti (‘new settler’)
communities who are often divided in competing political groups. Today the guri-galti conflict is reflected in the
leadership of the region. Mistrust between the two groups is based on a lack of power-sharing mechanisms. "

Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:51 pm
by grandpakhalif
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:07 pm
grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:50 pm
Anyways, back to my point. There is potential for serious conflict in the region if an election that is seen as not being fair to one community or another were to happen. I think the international community should be made aware of these issues and the potential an election in gedo can have in inflaming intra clan tensions. The way to avoid all of this is for all of the elections for JL MP's to happen in Kismayo, that way no community in Gedo feels they have been discriminated against.
Nice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.
I don't think the donors understand the pandora's box they've opened. You can't have elections when there hasn't been serious reconciliation in Gedo. You are being short-sighted sxb.
No one is more marginalized than the non MS in Puntland. But you dont see me making topics about that
not my business.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:05 pm
by MrSinister
grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:51 pm
MrSinister wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:07 pm
grandpakhalif wrote: Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:03 pm
Nice try trolling buddy, Sept 17 has been sealed in stone and two degaan doorasho is the ultimate reality your own President Deni signed this so get your confidence up. Its elections time.
I don't think the donors understand the pandora's box they've opened. You can't have elections when there hasn't been serious reconciliation in Gedo. You are being short-sighted sxb.
No one is more marginalized than the non MS in Puntland. But you dont see me making topics about that
not my business.
It’s a public forum, why are you lot so sensitive? Go ahead and start a topic on PL. I could care less.
PL wouldn’t function if there wasn’t reconciliation among the clans that live there. JL and especially Gedo needs to have that happen before elections. I’m from JL (Kismayo) and have an interest in a peaceful JL. The clan issues there are especially complicated and not as simple as some here would have us believe.
Re: Gedo Conflict Profile Map
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 11:15 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
This isn’t your business. You’re boring