Gabaweyn and Fiqi Maxamed fight in Gedo

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Gabaweyn and Fiqi Maxamed fight in Gedo

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second of all
Ilahay hakala qaboojiyo labada beelo, they are fighting over farms

Gedo governor Bulle Garad baaq nabadeed
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Wallahi it’s crazy bro. No matter how hard I try the same shit keeps happening. Somalia is a finished product bro. No matter how hard you try. It keeps disappointing you. There’s a reason I plugged out a while ago. Shit will be a failed state I knew that when we reset ties with Kenya. That’s when I knew shit was a waste of time dawg.
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And where are reer Axmed and reer Hassan, kala qabta ummada Islaameed.

Gabaabweyn are mostly under Dollow and the Surre under Luuq

They both live in Dollo Odo and Boqol Mayo Ethiopia too if it gets out of control, it's bad business for the whole trade line.
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The Fiqi Muxumud waa dad iga yaabiyey, they ONLY live with Marehan. Even Luuq xataa they came with the Galti migration as our wadaado.

But somehow the relationship is ice cold. This is even before the Xeraale incident. Back in the early 90's they were the first of our neighbors to heed Caydiid's call and joined USC.

You would think if you only live with Marehan everywhere you live in the worls, there was probably a reason you prefered them no?
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Gubbet wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:58 pm The Fiqi Muxumud waa dad iga yaabiyey, they ONLY live with Marehan. Even Luuq xataa they came with the Galti migration as our wadaado.

But somehow the relationship is ice cold. This is even before the Xeraale incident. Back in the early 90's they were the first of our neighbors to heed Caydiid's call and joined USC.

You would think if you only live with Marehan everywhere you live in the worls, there was probably a reason you prefered them no?
So how does one calm the situation then? Clearly it’s getting out of hand?
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Only reason I’m asking is because I want nabad as well as I’m for the baaqa nabad by Gov. Bulle and Gubbet & NGM here is Ali Jubba calling for nabad as well representing Reer Ahmed, I just checked Facebook. We’ll see, I wonder if the colaad will continue. Gedo and the country can’t afford any more violence.

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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:07 pm
Gubbet wrote: Sun Jul 11, 2021 9:58 pm The Fiqi Muxumud waa dad iga yaabiyey, they ONLY live with Marehan. Even Luuq xataa they came with the Galti migration as our wadaado.

But somehow the relationship is ice cold. This is even before the Xeraale incident. Back in the early 90's they were the first of our neighbors to heed Caydiid's call and joined USC.

You would think if you only live with Marehan everywhere you live in the worls, there was probably a reason you prefered them no?
So how does one calm the situation then? Clearly it’s getting out of hand?
That's why we have administrative units. The D.C is D.C for this reason. Going forward, we should stop treating these titles as mere decorations. They should be part of their review, how successfully they PREVENT onflict from starting, how successfully they DIFFUSE it before it turns into armed clashes, and how successfully they STOP it quickly if clashes take place.

D.C need to have the infrastructure and mechanisms in place at the NEIGHBORHOOD level, they are the lowest administrative unit for this reason.

They need to have a conflict advisory group OFFICIALLY with representation from every single group and not just clans, but from women, the youth, the religious community along with the traditional clan elders.

They need to hire security forces at the local police level that are INTERCLAN. So at the Fiqi Muxumud area, include Gabaabweyn and att thr Gabaabweyn area, include Fiqi so the security forces are institutionally invested in preventing not facilitating conflict. Obviously Marehan security forces would be in both areas and both groups would similarly form part of the policing structure in Marehan areas and at the district level.

Finally, I would also make sure that the Police Chief at ANY AREA be different social group from the majority group in the precinct. So have a Gabaabweyn be head of police in the station at where Dir are majority, have Dir be the chief where Gabaabweyn are majority, havr Macalinwryn be the chief where Marehan are majority and the Marehan br the chief where the Raxanweyn are majority.

Even within the Marehan I would rotate between Subclans; Reer Axmed to Rer Hassan to Hawlraarsame to Habar Yacquub to Faarax Ugaas to Cali Hussein to Cali Dheere to rer Garaad, rtc etc etc.

We need to learn from 200 years of American failure.

Segregation doesn't work and Separate but equal is never Equal and is only Separate.

I would even RADICALLY alter how D.C are chosen, with the same rotational system with the groups in one area being eligible for a different district.

Heck why not have a leadership PIPELINE; place the next batch of D.C as DEPUTY D.C to the district they will succeed to D.C.

That way, they havr administrative experience in the districr and know the needs

Or maybe have a stint as a Deputy D.C for security in one area, then another stint as Deputy D.C for development in another District then have them serve 1-2 terms as D.C for both area.

Do you know how organized the administrative structure will become with a hugely beneficial leadership training pipeline.

It would also hugely contribute to conflict diffusion because wr would finally separate property ownership and political power.

Obviously at the representative local council level the gole would be the local communities but the EXECUTIVE unit is part of a separate Federal system.

Those D.C would go on to become deputy Governors and Federal State deputy Ministers and department heads.

I realized something about Somalis, everything wrong with our culture is UNPREDICTABILITY.

Somalis HATE unpredictability; it reminds us of everything we hate about our historical evolution as nomads; not knowing when the rains will fail, not knowing when the grazing will br good, not knowing if this will be a famine or a drought year.

When they have PREDICTABILITY they become normal human beings.

Look at 4.5.

People trulu do not understand yet WE WILL NEVER GET RID OF 4.5. i say NEVER.

You know why?

Because it PREDICTABLY gives political representation ("shared ownership") to every single Somali clan. Every single one including our most disenfranchised Tumaal and Yaxar.

You know when we say 4.5 is bad because no one is . 5?

Sure as humans we know there is something wrong with half concept thats why unde4 Farmaajo he pegs them equally 1 like the 4 but as a standardized predictable power sharing system as Khadiijo Diiriye said THEY WILL DEFEND 4.5 WITH THEIR LIFE.

You know?

Because it PREDICTABLY ensures what they will get instead of 1 election 2 representatives, the next 0 representatives.

Might as well keep your .5 which will from now on be almost surely pegged to the 1 for every other equity expect Parliament (based on minimum presumption of population).

That's what is missing at the Federal and Local level, that same sort of PREDICTABILITY and structure it so there is an actually training anf leadership PIPELINE.

That way you ACTUALLY GET CAREER ADMINISTRATORS rather than worthless RANDOM POLITICAL APPOINTEES who have absolutely no practical administrative skills.
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Share that with Ali Jubba and your boys at Governor's office. Wallahi it is exactly what they need to start thinking about.

When you start identifying these leaders early on, you can even successfully petition leadership and expertise training investment from the world's international relationships ecosystem, peer to peer with other similar administrators at their level, scholarships to training courses, mentorship with international organizations, etf
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Gubbet wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:49 am Share that with Ali Jubba and your boys at Governor's office. Wallahi it is exactly what they need to start thinking about.

When you start identifying these leaders early on, you can even successfully petition leadership and expertise training investment from the world's international relationships ecosystem, peer to peer with other similar administrators at their level, scholarships to training courses, mentorship with international organizations, etf
That’s good advice. Say no more bro.
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Canjeex has done an absolutely excellent job stabilizing everything. I was speaking to a very good reer Ciroobe Siyaad friend of mine living in Garbahaaray now investing in the health sector there and Beled-Xaawo and he was telling me officially yeah people concluded the fights of the 90's but having Canjeex be named Gov was awkward at first for reer Siyaad. When I asked him why that was when Maxamuud Sayid was living and speaking for Garbahaaray for years without even official title or appointment, but strictly as the Marehan leader of the Marehan section which had congregated there opposing Janan and Fartaag? He said the thing is Maxamuud was always at the national level and was always political including being in Garbahaaray countless times. Canjeex was the regional commander under Maxamuud and really the face of many of the clashes. And he had never really come to Garbahaaray or mixed outside of Luuq since those times. Even when officially invited for some occasion, Canjeex would always end up with a polite cururdaar.

So because of those reasons, when he was named to Governor's House, he was like I remember the city's elders (the rer Siyaad ones) were anxious not knowing what sort of relationship they and the Gov would have.

He said all this time THEY WERE BOTH NERVOUS ABOUT EACH OTHER. Canjeex all this time avoided them because he thought they carried special cuqdad for him and reer Siyaad elders all this time thought this guy must have special enmity for them when even MSayid and them had warmly made up by then and not him.

He tells me there is not a more close or warm bond between Garbo and a Governor than the relationship Canjeex established early on. He said this guy is such a NATURAL administrator wallahi. Even the fact they were able to early on understand the problem is because as an administrator he came to the seat prepared to be a professional and knew how to navigate the system.

So I just remembered that conversation because of this topic and It is obvious that Canjeex IS a natural administrator BECAUSE he was the D.C of Luuq FOR YEARS. Imagine the administrative experience this guy gained.

You can even FEEL the that at the regional administration level, things have stabilized.

Administrative experience is absolutely crucial to many of the problems we have.
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Gubbet wrote: Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:23 am Canjeex has done an absolutely excellent job stabilizing everything. I was speaking to a very good reer Ciroobe Siyaad friend of mine living in Garbahaaray now investing in the health sector there and Beled-Xaawo and he was telling me officially yeah people concluded the fights of the 90's but having Canjeex be named Gov was awkward at first for reer Siyaad. When I asked him why that was when Maxamuud Sayid was living and speaking for Garbahaaray for years without even official title or appointment, but strictly as the Marehan leader of the Marehan section which had congregated there opposing Janan and Fartaag? He said the thing is Maxamuud was always at the national level and was always political including being in Garbahaaray countless times. Canjeex was the regional commander under Maxamuud and really the face of many of the clashes. And he had never really come to Garbahaaray or mixed outside of Luuq since those times. Even when officially invited for some occasion, Canjeex would always end up with a polite cururdaar.

So because of those reasons, when he was named to Governor's House, he was like I remember the city's elders (the rer Siyaad ones) were anxious not knowing what sort of relationship they and the Gov would have.

He said all this time THEY WERE BOTH NERVOUS ABOUT EACH OTHER. Canjeex all this time avoided them because he thought they carried special cuqdad for him and reer Siyaad elders all this time thought this guy must have special enmity for them when even MSayid and them had warmly made up by then and not him.

He tells me there is not a more close or warm bond between Garbo and a Governor than the relationship Canjeex established early on. He said this guy is such a NATURAL administrator wallahi. Even the fact they were able to early on understand the problem is because as an administrator he came to the seat prepared to be a professional and knew how to navigate the system.

So I just remembered that conversation because of this topic and It is obvious that Canjeex IS a natural administrator BECAUSE he was the D.C of Luuq FOR YEARS. Imagine the administrative experience this guy gained.

You can even FEEL the that at the regional administration level, things have stabilized.

Administrative experience is absolutely crucial to many of the problems we have.
Ahh makes perfect sense. Canjeex is a smart man less flashy than Moalimu. He’s an administrator not a war time leader.
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15 people were killed AUN

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