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Marehan and Ogaden were so close they migrated together and settled into a new world opening it up for the rest of Somalis together.


Those ties are always brimming under the surface no matter how rancorous civil war politics has gotten.

I am going to make a prediction that in the next couple years, such an improvement in ties will happen and old feelings about each other rekindled, it would be like the last 30+ years of civil war conflict have never happened.

Let the games begin and milk and kurus geel and 🥩 flow!

True just like the relationship between Axmaaro and Tigray would improve.

I’m glad you realised OG are the landlords of JL.

STARKAST wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:03 pm I’m glad you realised OG are the landlords of JL.

Why are you instigating where no instigation is needed?

When you figured out you couldn’t win the conflict you started now you want to throw in the towel??

Peace is always welcomed but first comes justice

WadaniggaBarakaysan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:58 pm

STARKAST wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:03 pm I’m glad you realised OG are the landlords of JL.

Why are you instigating where no instigation is needed?

Wallahi cajiib bay igu noqotay

Somaliya lo simanyahay Qabiil Qabiil la isu haysan oo aan qabiilka la cisayn qarankiina halka lagu ilaawin ila aynu maabka aduunka ka tirtirano
Maxa ku dhacay hab dhaqanki iyo hamigi SYL oo aha in Qabiil la iska ilaawo, Somalinmo la ciseeyo korna lo qaado, heesti Axmad Naaji KANI WA UGAAS KANI WA ADOON DOONI MAYNO

Gubbet wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:42 pm

WadaniggaBarakaysan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:58 pm

STARKAST wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:03 pm I’m glad you realised OG are the landlords of JL.

Why are you instigating where no instigation is needed?

Wallahi cajiib bay igu noqotay

I fell to understand how some people can say they support Jubbaland and simultaneously support or use rhetoric that goes against Jubbaland's progress. Case in point; STARKAST.

WadaniggaBarakaysan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:58 pm

STARKAST wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:03 pm I’m glad you realised OG are the landlords of JL.

Why are you instigating where no instigation is needed?

Sxb it’s the truth my friend. Who rules our state JL today.
MX need to learn empty rhetoric, pipe dreams or delusions of grandeur will not being them any progress but political maneuvering with IC, alliances with clans, good old bribes and to project a future of a better alternative to HE Madoobe sultanate.

STARKAST, MX and OG are the only shot callers in Jubaland, whatever MX is declaring is not pipe dreams or empty rhetoric, just look at the forums and the hysterical reactions, hundreds of posts on MX and constant calacal, it's because deep down people recognise they're a threat and a force to contend with. Puntland authorities are now coming to the reality that this impasse is not feasible for the long term, it's time you accepted it too.

OG and Harti needed the help of British, French and Kenyan air/naval forces to carve out a small sphere of influence in the region, sxb with all due respect, you are very mistaken if you believe this is a legitimate display/projection of power.

Been badna ilkayartan. We know the history of jubbaland and NFD and who migrated and when. In fact, the Garre and Dagodia migrated long before the mx, who came later as vagabonds. Your people came late early 1900s when the lands were well cleared.

Your attempt to retrofit yourself into jubbaland history is laughable.

Cooperation is always better than war.
MX position in J/L has never been in doubt and anyone who thinks otherwise is being foolish.

The only issue is that a sizeable minority of MX believed they could recreate the JVA in 2021.

If MX come to terms with Ogaden, perhaps with a Hiirshabelle style Gentleman's Agreement, the region could be cleared of AS filth and foreign forces.

I still believe of all the regions of Somalia J/L has the most potential.

original dervish wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 4:37 am Cooperation is always better than war.
MX position in J/L has never been in doubt and anyone who thinks otherwise is being foolish.

The only issue is that a sizeable minority of MX believed they could recreate the JVA in 2021.

If MX come to terms with Ogaden, perhaps with a Hiirshabelle style Gentleman's Agreement, the region could be cleared of AS filth and foreign forces.

I still believe of all the regions of Somalia J/L has the most potential.

There will never, ever be something as fundamentally unjust, grossly unfair, and intolerably corrupt as a "Gentlemen's Agreement" anywhere Marehan settle.

I don't think you know Marehan culture at all.

Marehan is the clan "AYAX TAG, EELNA REEB" was said because of---when Ayax Dhoore, the famous Madhibaan wordsmith of Mudug migrated from multiple clans because of maltreatment and harassment/discrimination...

...only to settle among Marehan and live a long life among them until his death.

He was immediately embraced, welcomed, and given protection. When he lived amongst the reer Khalaf of Majerten, he was their chief poet even as an unappreciated discriminated against human being After he left and settled comfortably among the Marehan, reer Hagar of Dhulbahante sent a poem to reer Khalaf insulting them. reer Khalaf decided they needed to bring Ayax back to defend them with his poetry. Ayax's reply to Majeerteen was AYAX TAG, EELNA REEB. (THE LOCUST LEFT, BUT HE LEFT HIS LARVAE)

And then he recited this famous Mudug saying he had no desire to part ways with the Marehan who treated him so well


Debec iyo wanaag baan ka helay deris Mareexaane
Reer Diini oo idili waa ii dabaaldegaye

SETTLED IN WARMTH, MAREHAN LAVISHLY SPOILS TO DELIGHT
MY HUMANITY IS VALUED, BY ALL THE SONS OF DIINI!


Ayax tag eelna reeb is a pub on his name and the fact AYAX ALSO MEANS LOCUST.

The locust left, but he left his larvae means AYAX LEFT YOU, AND HE LEFT YOU PROBLEMS.

Every single child who is a resident of Jubbaland, boy or girl, Cushite or Bantu, Samaale or Sab, Maxaa Tiri speaking or Maay speaking, Nomad or Farmer, and especially Artisanal (Madhibaan/Yibir, etc) or Unskilled deserve to be equally informed about their equal opportunity and chance for every single possibility in Jubbaland as anyone else.

I will be the first one to fight against any such fundamentally immoral and unjust institution ever even being possibility anywhere I call home..

The story of Ayax Dhoore

http://www.somalitalk.com/quursi/gabay2.html

Gubbet are you Reer Dalal?