Mualimu is a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY for Marehan; no emotionality, sensitivity, weakness; it is time for XEERIN.
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Mualimu is a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY for Marehan; no emotionality, sensitivity, weakness; it is time for XEERIN.
I think this is what we call a "marxalad xasaasi" ah.
It means this is a "watershed" moment.
The way the clan navigates this will determine whether this would be a fortuitous watershed moment or an ominous watershed moment.
I look at the Mualimu moment as negative moment with a great opportunity.
It provides very clearly, in a direct, no holds barred way a moment to address long grievances that we still have not yet fully closed it seems.
The way to respond to this is OPENNESS, TRANSPARENCY, AND HONESTY.
Not fear, insecurity, and more attempts to ignore and skirt around the uncomfortable issues that lay bare at the heart of this .
I also think this is the moment when Ugas Yarrow should come home to Gedo.
Ugas Yarrow is not holding a political title. His title belongs to the clan and this is exact moment it was made for. His "mandaqad" jurisdiction/court requires his presence and in my opinion, honestly speaking, continuing to be absent from this moment is tantamount to "abdication."
He is Mualimu's direct overlord and Ugas Yarrow is supposed to be the FIRST trial judge holding him accountable as a Wakiil from Marehan oo dhan.
If Ugas Yarrow finds him meritless, he is supposed to be the one censoring Mualimu and extending Xaal to Marehan oo dhan on his behalf.
If Ugas Yarrow finds his claim to be merited, then HE is supposed to be the one calling for a Marehan trial/gogol this time as an advocate of Mualimu as his direct overlord who has found him injurious.
This is how Somali dhaqan works and Marehan Xeer features this process and methodology like all other Somali Xeer in Somali dhaqan.
It is time to have XEERIN. We have an age old socio-cultural process of adjudication that we developed and kept for ages. Obviously it must work if we still have it. It is time to let it unfold.
Perhaps it would even finally lead to completely addressing all residual interclan issues that still manifest in these continuing outcrops of ill-conduct.
Not every negative development is without opportunity and this one is definitely with immense opportunities.
The clan must rise to this challenge and turn these opportunities into successful fortuitous outcomes.
It means this is a "watershed" moment.
The way the clan navigates this will determine whether this would be a fortuitous watershed moment or an ominous watershed moment.
I look at the Mualimu moment as negative moment with a great opportunity.
It provides very clearly, in a direct, no holds barred way a moment to address long grievances that we still have not yet fully closed it seems.
The way to respond to this is OPENNESS, TRANSPARENCY, AND HONESTY.
Not fear, insecurity, and more attempts to ignore and skirt around the uncomfortable issues that lay bare at the heart of this .
I also think this is the moment when Ugas Yarrow should come home to Gedo.
Ugas Yarrow is not holding a political title. His title belongs to the clan and this is exact moment it was made for. His "mandaqad" jurisdiction/court requires his presence and in my opinion, honestly speaking, continuing to be absent from this moment is tantamount to "abdication."
He is Mualimu's direct overlord and Ugas Yarrow is supposed to be the FIRST trial judge holding him accountable as a Wakiil from Marehan oo dhan.
If Ugas Yarrow finds him meritless, he is supposed to be the one censoring Mualimu and extending Xaal to Marehan oo dhan on his behalf.
If Ugas Yarrow finds his claim to be merited, then HE is supposed to be the one calling for a Marehan trial/gogol this time as an advocate of Mualimu as his direct overlord who has found him injurious.
This is how Somali dhaqan works and Marehan Xeer features this process and methodology like all other Somali Xeer in Somali dhaqan.
It is time to have XEERIN. We have an age old socio-cultural process of adjudication that we developed and kept for ages. Obviously it must work if we still have it. It is time to let it unfold.
Perhaps it would even finally lead to completely addressing all residual interclan issues that still manifest in these continuing outcrops of ill-conduct.
Not every negative development is without opportunity and this one is definitely with immense opportunities.
The clan must rise to this challenge and turn these opportunities into successful fortuitous outcomes.
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Arrest him and anyone who supports his shenanigans. No other major clan would allow a politician to insult their clansman while caping for a warlord who fought them. Shocked to hear he is not in a cell.
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Re: Mualimu is a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY for Marehan; no emotionality, sensitivity, weakness; it is time for XEERIN.
It’s this attitude that breeds resentment and these negative behaviors. There’s other ways to resolve this. Conflict resolution isn’t just xabad and xabsi. That’s repeating the same nonsense of the last 30yrs. That’s my two cents. Wallahi MX aren’t ilbax wtfnine wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:16 pm Arrest him and anyone who supports his shenanigans. No other major clan would allow a politician to insult their clansman while caping for a warlord who fought them. Shocked to hear he is not in a cell.

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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:30 pmIt’s this attitude that breeds resentment and these negative behaviors. There’s other ways to resolve this. Conflict resolution isn’t just xabad and xabsi. That’s repeating the same nonsense of the last 30yrs. That’s my two cents. Wallahi MX aren’t ilbax wtfnine wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:16 pm Arrest him and anyone who supports his shenanigans. No other major clan would allow a politician to insult their clansman while caping for a warlord who fought them. Shocked to hear he is not in a cell.![]()
This is not conflict resolution. If you can't understand thay politicians who betray Beesha and twerk for people with our blood on their hands should be dealt with harshly you deserve to be looted and slapped by enemy mooryaans.
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Please stop little brother. This is immature at best and downright intentionally negligible at worst.nine wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:43 pmReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:30 pmIt’s this attitude that breeds resentment and these negative behaviors. There’s other ways to resolve this. Conflict resolution isn’t just xabad and xabsi. That’s repeating the same nonsense of the last 30yrs. That’s my two cents. Wallahi MX aren’t ilbax wtfnine wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:16 pm Arrest him and anyone who supports his shenanigans. No other major clan would allow a politician to insult their clansman while caping for a warlord who fought them. Shocked to hear he is not in a cell.![]()
This is not conflict resolution. If you can't understand thay politicians who betray Beesha and twerk for people with our blood on their hands should be dealt with harshly you deserve to be looted and slapped by enemy mooryaans.
What Saddam is saying is quite evident to any Marehan, especially if you claim to be rer Diini.
It is exactly what I said without having need to address it
So if you don't know, then you need to stop commenting and learn about it.
And if you do, then it's time to stop acting.
But if you do know and don't care, then you can announce yourself to be like Grandpa and rule your input out.
This is an important moment for Marehan.
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No I am starting to think maybe there is a more intriguing explanation and that is maybe "is maba yaqaanaan" dadka wax Iska sheegayo.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:30 pmIt’s this attitude that breeds resentment and these negative behaviors. There’s other ways to resolve this. Conflict resolution isn’t just xabad and xabsi. That’s repeating the same nonsense of the last 30yrs. That’s my two cents. Wallahi MX aren’t ilbax wtfnine wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:16 pm Arrest him and anyone who supports his shenanigans. No other major clan would allow a politician to insult their clansman while caping for a warlord who fought them. Shocked to hear he is not in a cell.![]()
Maybe there is an actual awareness gap with some of the non-Bah Xawaadle reer Diini.
What if I am actually more cognizant and aware of this dynamic BECAUSE I am rer Siyaad. It is odd but I am observing Marehan and of the rer Diini, only the Gedood based ones truly comprehend it and rer Siyaad as a whole comprehend it universally.
Maybe this is a moment for all of Marehan is wada bartaan.
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Yeah bro that’s the amusing thing in this non amusing situation. I was laughing at Nine’s comment when I shouldn’t have but he reminds of a younger me. Sorry but I had to, it was looking at myself. We seen this movie beforeGubbet wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:05 pmNo I am starting to think maybe there is a more intriguing explanation and that is maybe "is maba yaqaanaan" dadka wax Iska sheegayo.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:30 pmIt’s this attitude that breeds resentment and these negative behaviors. There’s other ways to resolve this. Conflict resolution isn’t just xabad and xabsi. That’s repeating the same nonsense of the last 30yrs. That’s my two cents. Wallahi MX aren’t ilbax wtfnine wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:16 pm Arrest him and anyone who supports his shenanigans. No other major clan would allow a politician to insult their clansman while caping for a warlord who fought them. Shocked to hear he is not in a cell.![]()
Maybe there is an actual awareness gap with some of the non-Bah Xawaadle reer Diini.
What if I am actually more cognizant and aware of this dynamic BECAUSE I am rer Siyaad. It is odd but I am observing Marehan and of the rer Diini, only the Gedood based ones truly comprehend it and rer Siyaad as a whole comprehend it universally.
Maybe this is a moment for all of Marehan is wada bartaan.


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P.S. I am so effing glad, THANK YOU LORD, that there is no Rer Siyaad involved in this, that's all this moment needed to be even more annoying 
And if you don't know why I say that Nine then it's part of what you further need to learn about the history behind this moment.

And if you don't know why I say that Nine then it's part of what you further need to learn about the history behind this moment.
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Honestly except for the little meming, my response to all of this is really NGM's. This is not even worth effort getting a strong response.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:12 pmYeah bro that’s the amusing thing in this non amusing situation. I was laughing at Nine’s comment when I shouldn’t have but he reminds of a younger me. Sorry but I had to, it was looking at myself. We seen this movie beforeGubbet wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:05 pmNo I am starting to think maybe there is a more intriguing explanation and that is maybe "is maba yaqaanaan" dadka wax Iska sheegayo.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:30 pm
It’s this attitude that breeds resentment and these negative behaviors. There’s other ways to resolve this. Conflict resolution isn’t just xabad and xabsi. That’s repeating the same nonsense of the last 30yrs. That’s my two cents. Wallahi MX aren’t ilbax wtf![]()
Maybe there is an actual awareness gap with some of the non-Bah Xawaadle reer Diini.
What if I am actually more cognizant and aware of this dynamic BECAUSE I am rer Siyaad. It is odd but I am observing Marehan and of the rer Diini, only the Gedood based ones truly comprehend it and rer Siyaad as a whole comprehend it universally.
Maybe this is a moment for all of Marehan is wada bartaan.![]()
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I think what HAS to be addressed is the dhaqan issue; I mean that was just so personally ridiculous that I REFUSE to believe Mualimu would even go there in the WORST possible anger.
He said it intentionally, deliberately, and as direct tool to HAVE TO BE held to account.
That is the only way I can explain it.
No man in Somalia is that stupid even in the worst anger to make a mistake like that.
So the only other possibility is it was INTENTIONALLY done and INTENTIONALLY done to be CALLED TO ACCOUNT.
He wants a googol and he wants the process.
I literally believe that.
So give him the process because by culture, the dhaqan statement HAS TO receive the process. There is no way around it.
So I want to hear him out, but emotionally I am placid because I have to believe everything he did and said was just a means to an end.
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Well the younger members feel Ugaas Keyse and the Mudug dhaqan in general play more better role in diffusing conflicts and conflict resolution. This would be a perfect role for him to mediate between all parties. I like the guy and I appreciated him mediating the conflicts in Doolo between Makahiil/Reer Biciidayahan/MX.Gubbet wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:30 pmHonestly except for the little meming, my response to all of this is really NGM's. This is not even worth effort getting a strong response.ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:12 pmYeah bro that’s the amusing thing in this non amusing situation. I was laughing at Nine’s comment when I shouldn’t have but he reminds of a younger me. Sorry but I had to, it was looking at myself. We seen this movie beforeGubbet wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:05 pm
No I am starting to think maybe there is a more intriguing explanation and that is maybe "is maba yaqaanaan" dadka wax Iska sheegayo.
Maybe there is an actual awareness gap with some of the non-Bah Xawaadle reer Diini.
What if I am actually more cognizant and aware of this dynamic BECAUSE I am rer Siyaad. It is odd but I am observing Marehan and of the rer Diini, only the Gedood based ones truly comprehend it and rer Siyaad as a whole comprehend it universally.
Maybe this is a moment for all of Marehan is wada bartaan.![]()
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I think what HAS to be addressed is the dhaqan issue; I mean that was just so personally ridiculous that I REFUSE to believe Mualimu would even go there in the WORST possible anger.
He said it intentionally, deliberately, and as direct tool to HAVE TO BE held to account.
That is the only way I can explain it.
No man in Somalia is that stupid even in the worst anger to make a mistake like that.
So the only other possibility is it was INTENTIONALLY done and INTENTIONALLY done to be CALLED TO ACCOUNT.
He wants a googol and he wants the process.
I literally believe that.
So give him the process because by culture, the dhaqan statement HAS TO receive the process. There is no way around it.
So I want to hear him out, but emotionally I am placid because I have to believe everything he did and said was just a means to an end.
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Gubbet and RoM
My PoV is follow Beesha's interests. Any siyaasi who stops doing that discard them like a used napkin and if they deliberately do the opposite arrest them. They can be replaced easily. I have a distaste to MX siyaasis by default unless they prove to be helpful and/or they are not imbeciles. He did not act within Beesha's interests and publicly supported an adversary.
As for Reer Siyad they had their fair share of sub clan drama in Kismayo and Gedo. I am not a sub clannist.
Also do not underestimate the doqonimo of Somalis especially siyaasis.
My PoV is follow Beesha's interests. Any siyaasi who stops doing that discard them like a used napkin and if they deliberately do the opposite arrest them. They can be replaced easily. I have a distaste to MX siyaasis by default unless they prove to be helpful and/or they are not imbeciles. He did not act within Beesha's interests and publicly supported an adversary.
As for Reer Siyad they had their fair share of sub clan drama in Kismayo and Gedo. I am not a sub clannist.
Also do not underestimate the doqonimo of Somalis especially siyaasis.
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It would be highly inappropriate for Ugaaska Sade Bari to intervene in this issue unsolicited by his dhaqan peers; not "youth."
And it would be highly unusual for the Gedo dhaqan to solicit his intervention as this is not an issue "between" the Dhaqan. For example, instead of Mohamed Ugaas Hashi vs Mualimu, it were Ugaas Hashi vs Ugaas Yarrow.
And theoritically, if it were Ugaas Hashi vs Ugaas Yarrow, it would be unlikely the Ali Xaabuun Ugaas would be solicited or any Gaalshireedle. I would wager the Uurmidig Suldaan would preside over the gogol as the eldest-line Sade title.
It is unfortunate Sheikh Hassan Iftiin passed recently, all throughout the civil war, he was very much a backbone of the Sade dhaqan presiding in cases within the dhaqan or when the dhaqan were implicated or part to the claimants.
It is still underappreciated how Sh Iftiin brokered the difficult but much needed resolution to the dual claims after the passing of Ugaas Cumar. The fact that almost few understood how everything was quietly resolved is a testament to how controversial the situation was and how successfully Sh Iftiin quietly resolved the matter.
His son is Suldaan now I wager. We may soon learn how much he learned from his father.
But all in all, Marehan sxb is an old clan with old institutions.
Young people who think Ugaas Keyse is a rockstar and can make bird's fart diamonds are in for a more rude awakening than Megan Markle skipping into Buckingham Palace trying to braid the Queen's hair.
There is protocol here.
And it would be highly unusual for the Gedo dhaqan to solicit his intervention as this is not an issue "between" the Dhaqan. For example, instead of Mohamed Ugaas Hashi vs Mualimu, it were Ugaas Hashi vs Ugaas Yarrow.
And theoritically, if it were Ugaas Hashi vs Ugaas Yarrow, it would be unlikely the Ali Xaabuun Ugaas would be solicited or any Gaalshireedle. I would wager the Uurmidig Suldaan would preside over the gogol as the eldest-line Sade title.
It is unfortunate Sheikh Hassan Iftiin passed recently, all throughout the civil war, he was very much a backbone of the Sade dhaqan presiding in cases within the dhaqan or when the dhaqan were implicated or part to the claimants.
It is still underappreciated how Sh Iftiin brokered the difficult but much needed resolution to the dual claims after the passing of Ugaas Cumar. The fact that almost few understood how everything was quietly resolved is a testament to how controversial the situation was and how successfully Sh Iftiin quietly resolved the matter.
His son is Suldaan now I wager. We may soon learn how much he learned from his father.
But all in all, Marehan sxb is an old clan with old institutions.
Young people who think Ugaas Keyse is a rockstar and can make bird's fart diamonds are in for a more rude awakening than Megan Markle skipping into Buckingham Palace trying to braid the Queen's hair.
There is protocol here.
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Re: Mualimu is a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY for Marehan; no emotionality, sensitivity, weakness; it is time for XEERIN.
Does Moalimu and his Reer Hassan joining Ahmed Madoobe's camp have anything to do with Janan and his Reer Ahmed leaving Ahmed Madoobe's camp and joining Nabad iyo Nolol? Is this some sort of internal Marehan xaasidnimo?
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FTFYGubbet wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 10:10 pm Ugaas Maxamed Cumar vs Ugaas Yarrow.
Ugaas Maxamed Cumar vs Ugaas Yarrow,

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I always said Marehan would rue the Janan expediency and truthfully we have continued to rue it.
To answer your question, yes and no. That's all I will say.
To answer your question, yes and no. That's all I will say.
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