Siyad Barre greets and meets with Harti troops after they capture Afgooye in March 1992 and are only 30 km from Xamar

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Siyad Barre greets and meets with Harti troops after they capture Afgooye in March 1992 and are only 30 km from Xamar

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The Official mission of the Darood offensive of 1992 was to retake Mogadishu and return Siyad Barre to Villa Somalia the height of a United Darood victory was when march 1992 the USC had to flee their own pearl and heartland Afgooye after getting defeated by Harti militia ( SSDF plus Dulbahante/Warsangali ) in the coming month there is direct attack on Mogadishu itself which the Marehan and Ogaden joins in.


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What happened to United Darood after that ?😂
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There was no Harti with Siyaad Barre. Cidankaa wuxuu ahaa Mareexaan gebigoodba.
vinshom wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:35 pm What happened to United Darood after that ?😂
Cumar Jees and SPM ayaa dhabar jebiyey.
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Turbulence wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:18 pm There was no Harti with Siyaad Barre. Cidankaa wuxuu ahaa Mareexaan gebigoodba.
vinshom wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:35 pm What happened to United Darood after that ?😂
Cumar Jees and SPM ayaa dhabar jebiyey.
You are ignorant of Somali History or a Propagandist who knows...
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Turbulence wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:18 pm There was no Harti with Siyaad Barre. Cidankaa wuxuu ahaa Mareexaan gebigoodba.
vinshom wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:35 pm What happened to United Darood after that ?😂
Cumar Jees and SPM ayaa dhabar jebiyey.
Cumar jess refused to join the assault and Darood could not capture Xamar.

Why would Cumar Jess capture Xamar for ilkoyar.
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The MJ also opened a front for USC to attack.
It was an act of treachery that led to 1000s of their civilians being genocided in Xamar.
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Wasn't spm opposed to afweyne. Did Jees defect back to afweyne again. Can some one elaborate
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Why would Darood fight to bring back Afweyne who they originally opposed back into power. That’s the one mistake I won’t forgive Spm for. They should have defended their deegaan and regions and not go goose chasing in xamar or lower Shabelle.
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Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:54 pm Wasn't spm opposed to afweyne. Did Jees defect back to afweyne again. Can some one elaborate
Hawaadle commited genocide in Hiraan on Ogaden civlians and Abgaal killed a lot of SPM troops, so the officers in SPM went angry and forced Omar Jess to return to his Darood cousins. So Yeah SPM opened fire on USC all the way to Xamar
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original dervish wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:39 pm The MJ also opened a front for USC to attack.
It was an act of treachery that led to 1000s of their civilians being genocided in Xamar.
Treachery? :lol:

MJ/OG wanted Barre out, at that point there was no love between us, it was also MJ/OG officers who interjected on Barre's behalf so he could leave Xamar. What was treacherous was Hawiye Hutus opening up fire on innocent civilians, raping girls in mosques and hoarding U.N food supplies. It's no wonder Hawiye civilians continue to bear the brunt of killings, occupation and rape by foreign forces and a elite that don't give a damn about them, Ilaahi has cursed that city and they're still paying the price today.
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SunFromNorth wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:57 am
Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:54 pm Wasn't spm opposed to afweyne. Did Jees defect back to afweyne again. Can some one elaborate
Hawaadle commited genocide in Hiraan on Ogaden civlians and Abgaal killed a lot of SPM troops, so the officers in SPM went angry and forced Omar Jess to return to his Darood cousins. So Yeah SPM opened fire on USC all the way to Xamar

Why did hawaadle kill ogaden. And why would ogaden support afweyne again. Because xawaadle killed ogaden makes no sense. They opposed afweyne out of ideology
Not for other reasons
And why would abgaal kill spm troops weren't they on the same side on the war. Allot of things don't make sense during those events.
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Khalid Ali wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:16 am
SunFromNorth wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:57 am
Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:54 pm Wasn't spm opposed to afweyne. Did Jees defect back to afweyne again. Can some one elaborate
Hawaadle commited genocide in Hiraan on Ogaden civlians and Abgaal killed a lot of SPM troops, so the officers in SPM went angry and forced Omar Jess to return to his Darood cousins. So Yeah SPM opened fire on USC all the way to Xamar

Why did hawaadle kill ogaden. And why would ogaden support afweyne again. Because xawaadle killed ogaden makes no sense. They opposed afweyne out of ideology
Not for other reasons
And why would abgaal kill spm troops weren't they on the same side on the war. Allot of things don't make sense during those events.
The Hawaadle believed in a consperiacy theory that the Kacaan was trying to steal Hiraan and give it to Ogaden as a result of Ogaden refugees being reseattled a lot in Hiraaan. Hawaadle and Ogaden are big enemies not like HG and Ogaden alliance. So the Hawaadle went into a refugee cam and cut the trow of 500 Ogaden civlians and the dead bodies kicked into the River it was one of the most nasty masscarces during the civil war. No No the SPM claimed Aideed was the new President of Somalia which made Abgaal very angry since Ali Mahdi claimed to be the new president. The Mahdi wing of USC attacked the SPM with a surprise attack and killed a lot of sleeping Ogaden boys.
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After the govt fled Mogadishu it became a battle between Hag and Darood.

The OGs and MJ for whatever reason decided to break ranks......it is ironic that these two clan's civilians were slaughtered like goats.

We can reasonably speculate that if the Darood front had held up there would have been a stalemate perhaps and negotiations on forming a new govt could have occurred.

Instead due to the treachery the Darood front collapsed and the hagites went on a decades long rampage.
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The original plan was SNF Left on 1991 January complete withdrawal.

The original plan was aided become president but SSDF played divide and conquer tactics by aligning with Ali mahdi and hg militias started slaughtering Harti and Ogaden.

SPM Omar Jess only was with aided because he got arms from aided and he has slautered alot of marehans in baidoa alone 800 marehans in single day. And 1800 in shalambot.

1991 was mess but we haven't learned from shiit.

Also don't forget alot of xasuuq on darood happened in galmudug and galcaycyo by qeybdiid.
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Khalid Ali wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 11:54 pm Wasn't spm opposed to afweyne. Did Jees defect back to afweyne again. Can some one elaborate
No he was around gedo to afgoyi dhabajabin darood. He played double agent as always cagdheers do so fight was about capture of kismayo port and not exhaust weapons on Mogadishu.
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