Difference Between Al Shaydaan In Somalia And Taliban

[Murax]

68 IQ tendencies with Al Shaydaan for 1, and secondly at least Taliban have clear hadaf, objectives, but most importantly they are homegrown, not implanted by foreigners a la Al Shaydaan.

[Rebelxx22]

They are not on the same level but they shouldn’t be underestimated though. Your Adeer Farmaajo wasted 4 years of precious time which could’ve been used to degrade them. Now watch their power increase as your folks only sought out to rule the country even if it leads to disintegration.

[FAH1223]

Taliban have gotten much more diplomatically sophisticated. Not the same guys who ruled from 1996-2001.

With that said, the Afghan population is a lot younger now. They can't govern the same way they did if they hope to hold power.

[paperino]

What's interesting is there's no bililiqo on part of the Taliban.

[MrSinister]

What's interesting is there's no bililiqo on part of the Taliban.

The taliban are Pashtuns not Hutus

[mahoka]

You are comparing Pashtuns with decent IQ to a bunch of starving darod and hawiye terrorists (al shabab)

[geeljireEmpire]

Somalis in general, weather AS or the most liberal Somali, are low IQ, and they tend to always be at the bottom of any hierarchy.

[FAH1223]

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

What's interesting is there's no bililiqo on part of the Taliban.

The taliban are Pashtuns not Hutus

Lions they are.

[original dervish]

The timing of the Taliban victory, and US humiliation, is not lost on Muslims around the world.

We are in the Holy month of Muharram ( the month of Allah swt). There are so many significant events for Muslims during this month.

The reporting from US, UK, Europe etc is of gloom and despair.....they were hoping for a protracted civil war.

Now the guns have fallen silent across Afghanistan for the first time since 1977.

This is a victory for all Muslims....Allahu Akbar!

[FAH1223]

[FAH1223]

[paperino]

Al-Shabaab have now a blueprint of what's possible. While there are similarities between the two, there are some differences. This isn't to say that AS cannot adapt and learn from the TB's experience. If the current political squabbles, delays in nation building, failure to minimize corruption, etc in Somalia continue--there's a possibility that AS could make a comeback.

Despite the fact that AS has proved resilient and committed to their mission to establish their imagined Islamic state; has built local legitimacy and self-reliant mechanism, they are, however, in short of significant abilities and strategies that could enable them to achieve what their counterpart Taliban has achieved. Al-Shabaab lacks a local agenda too. They promote rhetoric and delusional global agenda that will not serve for their end goal.
https://hiiraan.com/op4/2021/aug/183586 ... sible.aspx

The author identifies what AS lacks, so it's possible that they adapt in the future.

[Phinks]

Paper, the Afghan army was 400,000 strong, equipped with a moderate air force and heavy weaponry. Contrast that to Somalia, which is still under an embargo, it's quite obvious to anyone that AS is good business for the west, AU and countries bordering Somalia. Nobody takes them seriously, just look at how AMISON don't even bother to fight them anymore. Also, Al-shabab cannot defeat qabiil, Al-Shabab as a matter of fact uses qabiil to weaken other clans and consolidate their power.

Also, the western playbook of sending in CIA intelligence assets to discredit liberation movements has been played out. It was actually thanks to the Chinese finally putting their foot down and saying no to Washington/London after the killings of high valued Chinese engineers working on the belt road initiative, which as always they blamed the Taliban on.

It would not surprise me one bit if it was revealed that AS has been working with Ethiopian, African and Western intelligence as well as getting the supplies to carry out their operations, forget that, some of them are on their payroll.

[paperino]

Looks like the shock & awe and honeymoon is over; the West has begun demonizing the Taliban. The West is also repeating the mistake of arming & assisting a new armed opposition. Fortunately, a number of countries (Turkey, China, etc) are bold enough to start business with the Taliban who are sitting on $1 trillion natural resources.