Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
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Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Wishful thinking by products of mareeyta relationship.
The original text is in French; which only means he is Dankali Djiboutian.
They have the most parliamentarians, president of the parliament, defense minister, several other ministers and the PM post.
They make less than 20% (I am generous) of the population, yet want more. More of what, the presidency? Never. Ama haa diidan ama ha doona, dhulka waa dhul Ciise.
The original text is in French; which only means he is Dankali Djiboutian.
They have the most parliamentarians, president of the parliament, defense minister, several other ministers and the PM post.
They make less than 20% (I am generous) of the population, yet want more. More of what, the presidency? Never. Ama haa diidan ama ha doona, dhulka waa dhul Ciise.
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Canfars are taking advantage of the Tigray war to stack up on tanks and heavy weapons to use against Cisses later on. If Cisses are any smart they should smuggle such type of weapons from Djibouti otherwise the war is lost. Or they can try guerilla warfare the government might label you shufta or terrorists
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Don't exaggerate and fuel fitna between Muslims.
But... No doubt the Afar are fighting on two fronts and being assisted by Amharas against Tigrayan forces because they have a common foe in Tigray and both believe in an United Ethiopian state. The ciise will be fine because the other Somali clans will aid them. However we should hope that it doesn't come to that.
Ciise and afar should bring their maps and documents to arbitration or court and settle things there.
But... No doubt the Afar are fighting on two fronts and being assisted by Amharas against Tigrayan forces because they have a common foe in Tigray and both believe in an United Ethiopian state. The ciise will be fine because the other Somali clans will aid them. However we should hope that it doesn't come to that.
Ciise and afar should bring their maps and documents to arbitration or court and settle things there.
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Fuel fitna? They started it by killing 400+ innocent civilians. There can't be any arbitration when Afar view Somalis are camping on their land, they even go so far as saying Cisse are terrorist and have the support of Al-Shabab. Doesn't matter either way, we won't let up, every single one of them will leave Garbo-Cisse with a metal slug lodged into their skulls.Waachis wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:23 pm Don't exaggerate and fuel fitna between Muslims.
But... No doubt the Afar are fighting on two fronts and being assisted by Amharas against Tigrayan forces because they have a common foe in Tigray and both believe in an United Ethiopian state. The ciise will be fine because the other Somali clans will aid them. However we should hope that it doesn't come to that.
Ciise and afar should bring their maps and documents to arbitration or court and settle things there.
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Which court the court that sided with Amhara and claimed Welkiat is part of amhara kilil?Waachis wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:23 pm Don't exaggerate and fuel fitna between Muslims.
But... No doubt the Afar are fighting on two fronts and being assisted by Amharas against Tigrayan forces because they have a common foe in Tigray and both believe in an United Ethiopian state. The ciise will be fine because the other Somali clans will aid them. However we should hope that it doesn't come to that.
Ciise and afar should bring their maps and documents to arbitration or court and settle things there.
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
95% of the weapons used to kill ciise are sent through djibouti port bro,Jabuutawi wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:05 pm Wishful thinking by products of mareeyta relationship.
The original text is in French; which only means he is Dankali Djiboutian.
They have the most parliamentarians, president of the parliament, defence minister, several other ministers and the PM post.
They make less than 20% (I am generous) of the population, yet want more. More of what, the presidency? Never. Ama haa diidan ama ha doona, dhulka waa dhul Ciise.
why are ciise in djibouti allowing this? why are Ogadens left to defend and die for ciise and why has the leadership in djibouti kept quite?
there are 9 ethiopian ships for cargo imports based in djibouti, ciise in Djibouti have the US, china and French defending them, they cannot be invaded,
so why have ciise kept quite, why is the ethiopian speaker of the house farah who is a ciise so quite yet he barked and moaned about cagjar to adis everyday until he was sent to adis ?
800 Ogaden lads have died for ciise, yet ciise screams the Dir card when politically trying to muscle with Ogaden?
ciise needs to be united bro and they have massive clout against ethiopians, they can stop imports to ethiopia in just one week
learn from us Ogadens, it took Ogaden kenyan based ministers to force the creation of Jubaland like Kenyan defence minister uncle Yusuf Haji when the ethiopians and hawiye hated the idea
it took iley in Jigjiga to call hassan sheikh and force his goervement to accept the reality of Jubaland state
massive re enforcement of Ogadne lads were sent from all over Ogadeniya to karbash marehans to create Jubaland
ciise serious needs to talk to adis, you have canfaar Mps in adis saying ciise is alshabab and yet the ciise federal MPs in adis keep very silent,
now personally i do not like Ogaden lads dying for other tribes but i see the strategic purpose of supporting ciise in shaniley and even garre in moyaale, because f we allow those regions to fall, then Ogaden and Absame heartland is next
this is why even though it hurts me, i was reluctantly ok when 45 Ogaden boys died defending moyaale from oromo in oct 2019,
150 died fighting against canfaar in nov 2019 and hundreds more have died
of course i do not like it, i do not wish to see my Ogadens sons dying for other clans or races, but end of the day they are strategically defending warder, qoraxey, nogob, godey, jigjiga, afhdeer etc , because if the garre and ciise fall, then absame lands will be next
thus my sons are dying for a long term strategically valuable cause, but it hurts my heart when i read my precious Qoord sons dying
but i do wish ciise would bring in some of their sons to die for their lands, i would also like to see ciise in Djibouti to bare some responsibility bro
by the way with the likes of the idoor and buuns, all the guun who kept saying Ogaden is 305, why are you guys not sending your sons?
now understand why only two Ogadens men are running for president, ONLF maaday and cagjar, langabs who do not fight for the region will never compete
where are the langabs like buuns and other qashin ? why are you guys not defending ciise? if you are cowards send money, for now only Ogadens and Absame are fighting for ciise
shame on the langabs online who haveA1884 the land was called OGADENIYA
may all have mercy on our brave Ogaden sons who have fallen for a rightful cause, AUN and may Allah reward you with Janutal fardowsa insha Allah
Mr T
Long Live The Absame Kuumade Race
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Long live the Absame race
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Tall man and Phinks,
Good points. However there must be some kind of way to solve this conflict. Perpetual war is not good. Especially when it's two Muslims slaughtering each other. There must be some impartial court of law that can arbitrate here. Both sides bring their historical proofs, books, maps, etc and let's see who's right. If an agreement isn't reached then make the disputed areas an autonomous zone separate from both regions and have it jointly administered by both sides in a fair, equitable way. Same goes for Oromo and Somali disputed areas. Otherwise if we find ourselves under the brutal rule of a new Amhara emperor building churches in Somali lands where Muslims are 95 percent of the population, we have noone to blame but ourselves. No doubt Allaah can punish us through being tested with an oppressive ruler. Abiy ain't good but trust me he's kids play compared to what the extremist Amhara elitist elements want to do! The Oromo Somali and afar will cry together in the masajid wondering how this happened!
Good points. However there must be some kind of way to solve this conflict. Perpetual war is not good. Especially when it's two Muslims slaughtering each other. There must be some impartial court of law that can arbitrate here. Both sides bring their historical proofs, books, maps, etc and let's see who's right. If an agreement isn't reached then make the disputed areas an autonomous zone separate from both regions and have it jointly administered by both sides in a fair, equitable way. Same goes for Oromo and Somali disputed areas. Otherwise if we find ourselves under the brutal rule of a new Amhara emperor building churches in Somali lands where Muslims are 95 percent of the population, we have noone to blame but ourselves. No doubt Allaah can punish us through being tested with an oppressive ruler. Abiy ain't good but trust me he's kids play compared to what the extremist Amhara elitist elements want to do! The Oromo Somali and afar will cry together in the masajid wondering how this happened!
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
The afar are being used as proxy.It has Abyes hands over the place.Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:44 pm Tall man and Phinks,
Good points. However there must be some kind of way to solve this conflict. Perpetual war is not good. Especially when it's two Muslims slaughtering each other. There must be some impartial court of law that can arbitrate here. Both sides bring their historical proofs, books, maps, etc and let's see who's right. If an agreement isn't reached then make the disputed areas an autonomous zone separate from both regions and have it jointly administered by both sides in a fair, equitable way. Same goes for Oromo and Somali disputed areas. Otherwise if we find ourselves under the brutal rule of a new Amhara emperor building churches in Somali lands where Muslims are 95 percent of the population, we have noone to blame but ourselves. No doubt Allaah can punish us through being tested with an oppressive ruler. Abiy ain't good but trust me he's kids play compared to what the extremist Amhara elitist elements want to do! The Oromo Somali and afar will cry together in the masajid wondering how this happened!
Abye even gave them tanks to invade Sitti.
Do oromos Liyu Polis have tanks?
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
Why would they want Afar and Somali's to fight? I can think of some reasons, especially seeing as how they stated publicy, that they're gonna send more Christian missionaries to spread their faith there in the east.Tallman77 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:16 pmThe afar are being used as proxy.It has Abyes hands over the place.Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:44 pm Tall man and Phinks,
Good points. However there must be some kind of way to solve this conflict. Perpetual war is not good. Especially when it's two Muslims slaughtering each other. There must be some impartial court of law that can arbitrate here. Both sides bring their historical proofs, books, maps, etc and let's see who's right. If an agreement isn't reached then make the disputed areas an autonomous zone separate from both regions and have it jointly administered by both sides in a fair, equitable way. Same goes for Oromo and Somali disputed areas. Otherwise if we find ourselves under the brutal rule of a new Amhara emperor building churches in Somali lands where Muslims are 95 percent of the population, we have noone to blame but ourselves. No doubt Allaah can punish us through being tested with an oppressive ruler. Abiy ain't good but trust me he's kids play compared to what the extremist Amhara elitist elements want to do! The Oromo Somali and afar will cry together in the masajid wondering how this happened!
Abye even gave them tanks to invade Sitti.
Do oromos Liyu Polis have tanks?
But, there could be other reasons.
Afar fighters captured those tanks from the TPLF who invaded their land, TPLF/TDF invaded Afar to 1/attack the ENDF & Regional forces stationed there, the Oromia Police were stationed there, many of whom were captured and sent back to Afar by the TDF-
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=439 ... AHuJgg5scw
^oromia police POW's
and no, oromia liyu do not have tanks.
https://www.theafricareport.com/118766/ ... onspiracy/
''As they took full control of the small town, Afar militias and authorities prevented the burial of Somali victims, according to family members of some victims that I have contact with.
Somali regional forces were mobilized to enter Garba Isse and push out Afar militias following the attacks, which was initially successful. After carrying out the short-lived campaign to free Garba Isse, Mustafa ordered the Somali forces to vacate the town. This decision permitted Afar militias to capture Garba Isse once again and continue killings.
Although Mustafa is yet to give a statement denouncing the attacks or express condolences, protests condemning the violence against Somalis in Sitti Zone and Garba Isse were conducted in numerous parts of the Somali region.
A senior Prosperity Party (PP) member and Somali federal representative, Dr Abdiwasa Bade, posted on his personal Facebook page that those responsible for the inter-ethnic violence should be held accountable and that Somali victims must be supported.
Somalis around the world showed their support to Dr Abdiwasa. This outpouring of support demonstrates how members of the Somali community are desperate for their pain and deaths to simply be acknowledged. Sadly, Dr Abdiwasa was ordered or pressured, according to some colleagues, to remove his personal yet controversial Facebook post, and he did so less than two days later.
Larger conspiracy?
Some Somali locals that I have contact with suspect that this gruesome carnage is not just a Somali-Afar border conflict. Rather, they think it could be an incident that has been, to an extent, orchestrated, exacerbated, and used by the administration for ulterior gains in the Tigray war.
Following the incident, officials in the Somali region and diaspora activists with large followings and close ties to the administration instrumentalised the massacre. The goal was purportedly to motivate protests condemning the violence, but there was also a hidden agenda to encourage blocking the trade route connecting Djibouti’s port to Ethiopia.
The Djibouti route being Ethiopia’s main trade and humanitarian route, blocking the rail means blocking aid going to Tigray. This shouldn’t be surprising since numerous reports have shown that the Ethiopian government is willing to engage in whatever nefarious activity so long as it deems it helpful in crushing the TPLF.''
Basically, if the TDF/TPLF successfully occupies the road to djibouti, they can import arms, food, money, whatever else, through there, since the border to sudan is heavily guarded by amhara forces/eritrean forces with tanks and artillery, and more.
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
They never captured those tanks from TPLF that is a narrative they want to sell us where are the TPLF pows or dead soilders?Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:11 pmWhy would they want Afar and Somali's to fight? I can think of some reasons, especially seeing as how they stated publicy, that they're gonna send more Christian missionaries to spread their faith there in the east.Tallman77 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:16 pmThe afar are being used as proxy.It has Abyes hands over the place.Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:44 pm Tall man and Phinks,
Good points. However there must be some kind of way to solve this conflict. Perpetual war is not good. Especially when it's two Muslims slaughtering each other. There must be some impartial court of law that can arbitrate here. Both sides bring their historical proofs, books, maps, etc and let's see who's right. If an agreement isn't reached then make the disputed areas an autonomous zone separate from both regions and have it jointly administered by both sides in a fair, equitable way. Same goes for Oromo and Somali disputed areas. Otherwise if we find ourselves under the brutal rule of a new Amhara emperor building churches in Somali lands where Muslims are 95 percent of the population, we have noone to blame but ourselves. No doubt Allaah can punish us through being tested with an oppressive ruler. Abiy ain't good but trust me he's kids play compared to what the extremist Amhara elitist elements want to do! The Oromo Somali and afar will cry together in the masajid wondering how this happened!
Abye even gave them tanks to invade Sitti.
Do oromos Liyu Polis have tanks?
But, there could be other reasons.
Afar fighters captured those tanks from the TPLF who invaded their land, TPLF/TDF invaded Afar to 1/attack the ENDF & Regional forces stationed there, the Oromia Police were stationed there, many of whom were captured and sent back to Afar by the TDF-
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=439 ... AHuJgg5scw
^oromia police POW's
and no, oromia liyu do not have tanks.
https://www.theafricareport.com/118766/ ... onspiracy/
''As they took full control of the small town, Afar militias and authorities prevented the burial of Somali victims, according to family members of some victims that I have contact with.
Somali regional forces were mobilized to enter Garba Isse and push out Afar militias following the attacks, which was initially successful. After carrying out the short-lived campaign to free Garba Isse, Mustafa ordered the Somali forces to vacate the town. This decision permitted Afar militias to capture Garba Isse once again and continue killings.
Although Mustafa is yet to give a statement denouncing the attacks or express condolences, protests condemning the violence against Somalis in Sitti Zone and Garba Isse were conducted in numerous parts of the Somali region.
A senior Prosperity Party (PP) member and Somali federal representative, Dr Abdiwasa Bade, posted on his personal Facebook page that those responsible for the inter-ethnic violence should be held accountable and that Somali victims must be supported.
Somalis around the world showed their support to Dr Abdiwasa. This outpouring of support demonstrates how members of the Somali community are desperate for their pain and deaths to simply be acknowledged. Sadly, Dr Abdiwasa was ordered or pressured, according to some colleagues, to remove his personal yet controversial Facebook post, and he did so less than two days later.
Larger conspiracy?
Some Somali locals that I have contact with suspect that this gruesome carnage is not just a Somali-Afar border conflict. Rather, they think it could be an incident that has been, to an extent, orchestrated, exacerbated, and used by the administration for ulterior gains in the Tigray war.
Following the incident, officials in the Somali region and diaspora activists with large followings and close ties to the administration instrumentalised the massacre. The goal was purportedly to motivate protests condemning the violence, but there was also a hidden agenda to encourage blocking the trade route connecting Djibouti’s port to Ethiopia.
The Djibouti route being Ethiopia’s main trade and humanitarian route, blocking the rail means blocking aid going to Tigray. This shouldn’t be surprising since numerous reports have shown that the Ethiopian government is willing to engage in whatever nefarious activity so long as it deems it helpful in crushing the TPLF.''
Basically, if the TDF/TPLF successfully occupies the road to djibouti, they can import arms, food, money, whatever else, through there, since the border to sudan is heavily guarded by amhara forces/eritrean forces with tanks and artillery, and more.
Those tanks were given by ENDF.
You have to know in Afar its afar militia supporting abye that is fighting those supporting TDF.
Also Afaworki wants to get back at Omar Ghelle he knows if he weakens Issas in Ethiopia he can use Afar rebels to capture Djibouti.
Re: Afar admin declare to exterminate Ciise clan from Ethiopia
You maybe right there. But, things aren't clear. TDF does post the tanks and weapons they capture from the army, so in turn, those same weapons can be captured when the tdf uses it. Not sure.Tallman77 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:16 pmThey never captured those tanks from TPLF that is a narrative they want to sell us where are the TPLF pows or dead soilders?Waachis wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:11 pmWhy would they want Afar and Somali's to fight? I can think of some reasons, especially seeing as how they stated publicy, that they're gonna send more Christian missionaries to spread their faith there in the east.Tallman77 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:16 pm
The afar are being used as proxy.It has Abyes hands over the place.
Abye even gave them tanks to invade Sitti.
Do oromos Liyu Polis have tanks?
But, there could be other reasons.
Afar fighters captured those tanks from the TPLF who invaded their land, TPLF/TDF invaded Afar to 1/attack the ENDF & Regional forces stationed there, the Oromia Police were stationed there, many of whom were captured and sent back to Afar by the TDF-
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=439 ... AHuJgg5scw
^oromia police POW's
and no, oromia liyu do not have tanks.
https://www.theafricareport.com/118766/ ... onspiracy/
''As they took full control of the small town, Afar militias and authorities prevented the burial of Somali victims, according to family members of some victims that I have contact with.
Somali regional forces were mobilized to enter Garba Isse and push out Afar militias following the attacks, which was initially successful. After carrying out the short-lived campaign to free Garba Isse, Mustafa ordered the Somali forces to vacate the town. This decision permitted Afar militias to capture Garba Isse once again and continue killings.
Although Mustafa is yet to give a statement denouncing the attacks or express condolences, protests condemning the violence against Somalis in Sitti Zone and Garba Isse were conducted in numerous parts of the Somali region.
A senior Prosperity Party (PP) member and Somali federal representative, Dr Abdiwasa Bade, posted on his personal Facebook page that those responsible for the inter-ethnic violence should be held accountable and that Somali victims must be supported.
Somalis around the world showed their support to Dr Abdiwasa. This outpouring of support demonstrates how members of the Somali community are desperate for their pain and deaths to simply be acknowledged. Sadly, Dr Abdiwasa was ordered or pressured, according to some colleagues, to remove his personal yet controversial Facebook post, and he did so less than two days later.
Larger conspiracy?
Some Somali locals that I have contact with suspect that this gruesome carnage is not just a Somali-Afar border conflict. Rather, they think it could be an incident that has been, to an extent, orchestrated, exacerbated, and used by the administration for ulterior gains in the Tigray war.
Following the incident, officials in the Somali region and diaspora activists with large followings and close ties to the administration instrumentalised the massacre. The goal was purportedly to motivate protests condemning the violence, but there was also a hidden agenda to encourage blocking the trade route connecting Djibouti’s port to Ethiopia.
The Djibouti route being Ethiopia’s main trade and humanitarian route, blocking the rail means blocking aid going to Tigray. This shouldn’t be surprising since numerous reports have shown that the Ethiopian government is willing to engage in whatever nefarious activity so long as it deems it helpful in crushing the TPLF.''
Basically, if the TDF/TPLF successfully occupies the road to djibouti, they can import arms, food, money, whatever else, through there, since the border to sudan is heavily guarded by amhara forces/eritrean forces with tanks and artillery, and more.
Those tanks were given by ENDF.
You have to know in Afar its afar militia supporting abye that is fighting those supporting TDF.
Also Afaworki wants to get back at Omar Ghelle he knows if he weakens Issas in Ethiopia he can use Afar rebels to capture Djibouti.
... Isaias Afewerki did recently send, an All-Afar, armed unit of his forces, into the Afar region of Ethiopia to fight the tdf.
The tdf is there, in afar, seeking to get access to the road to djibouti, because tigray is blocked off from importing food or for tdf, weapons, which they do get from the Ethiopian army, when they capture them, but of course: they maybe able to get more arms from the outside world, those who wish to back the tdf/tigray, if they have access to djibouti's ports.
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