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Zero sum game mentality is the biggest obstacle to the presidential elections

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maryooley boobkii geela ay siyaasada la imaadeen beesha caalamka oo lacagtii Doorashada joojisay xataa inay qeyb dhiibto inta wax la isku raacayo waa diideen laba laba kursi iyo bugta meesha ka socota

After stopping the looting(boobkii)of Farmaajo in last April, we entered the phase of the FMS leaders monopoly over the elections as they do not want the least of what happened in aqalka sare and some of them want one city option and may take advantage of the security situation in Ethiopia which will be reflected in some provinces and states where there is an Ethiopian army.

There is reports that the head of FEIT Cirro will be ousted by state members because each state has three members in this "federal committee" that takes its orders from their regional presidents and lastly Sheykhuna Rooble tasted the sweetness of the Kursi and decided to go along with the delay policy that Farmaajo wants as it would prolong his stay in Villa wardhiigley even if he had nothing in his hand.





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Ustaad Sahal i dont even blame the Kursi jecel Farmaajo iyo Rooble iyo Madaxda Dowlad goboleed, who i blame is the Mucaaradka Madasha Hawiye oo bilaabeen inay is cunaan before the elections has even started, its now a HSM & AAW VS Xasan Kheire VS Shariif, the opposition is now more divided than ever and the current power-holders and maamul goboleed will benefit from this power struggle the oppositions the Hawiye Madasha are having.

The Madasha should have long ago agreed to one or two candidate and than pushed at all cost for elections, but today it seems all powers is with Federal States, so i guess Somalia has entered the era of Confederalisms with States having all Powers of the Country Somalia.
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Abdicaziz laftagareen is struggling to immediately start the lower house elections in Baydhabo following the current political scenes in Ethiopia. As you know Laftagareen was installed by Ethiopian troops in 2018 his legitimacy exists as long as Ethiopian troops occupy shaati Gaduud airfield.
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Hgs have also started chimping out in Baraawe the unofficial capital of Southwest state.
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sahal i blame governor Deni 4 being tha governor that started tha trend. also partially agree to kees for blaming HSM n SS. they was tha niggas dat made tha shitty deals dat empowered governor Deni. Did we forget who gave Dolbahanta n Wasakhgali seats to Pland? even though Puntland had no control in tha area. Puntland even got Hawiya Fikishini seat of Sool under that shitty deal. don't know tha other opposition figures in tha ex italian colony. but i know tha 2 niggas be4 Farmajo was incompetent.

Farmajo haters n Roble hater for that matter can say wut they want. but those 2 niggas bin the most powerful men in their seats in the Ethiopian n Amisom era of the ex italian colony. i don't blame them for delaying. if that's wuth they're doing. n i ain't certain they are delaying things
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Kees70 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:58 am Ustaad Sahal i dont even blame the Kursi jecel Farmaajo iyo Rooble iyo Madaxda Dowlad goboleed, who i blame is the Mucaaradka Madasha Hawiye oo bilaabeen inay is cunaan before the elections has even started, its now a HSM & AAW VS Xasan Kheire VS Shariif, the opposition is now more divided than ever and the current power-holders and maamul goboleed will benefit from this power struggle the oppositions the Hawiye Madasha are having.

The Madasha should have long ago agreed to one or two candidate and than pushed at all cost for elections, but today it seems all powers is with Federal States, so i guess Somalia has entered the era of Confederalisms with States having all Powers of the Country Somalia.
im ok with Rooble i don't blame him if he sees an opportunity for continuity between these contradictory parties, he is the only one that protects the independence and transparency of the elections im just explaining about him oo la qabsadey jawiga siyaasada waxaana ku xigta inuu isa sharaxo oo sheekada "amaanada" ka baxo :lol

BTW Qeybdiid is getting elected soon wich means Xaaf replacing Fiqi!
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sahal80 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:11 am
Kees70 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:58 am Ustaad Sahal i dont even blame the Kursi jecel Farmaajo iyo Rooble iyo Madaxda Dowlad goboleed, who i blame is the Mucaaradka Madasha Hawiye oo bilaabeen inay is cunaan before the elections has even started, its now a HSM & AAW VS Xasan Kheire VS Shariif, the opposition is now more divided than ever and the current power-holders and maamul goboleed will benefit from this power struggle the oppositions the Hawiye Madasha are having.

The Madasha should have long ago agreed to one or two candidate and than pushed at all cost for elections, but today it seems all powers is with Federal States, so i guess Somalia has entered the era of Confederalisms with States having all Powers of the Country Somalia.
im ok with Rooble i don't blame him if he sees an opportunity for continuity between these contradictory parties, he is the only one that protects the independence and transparency of the elections im just explaining about him oo la qabsadey jawiga siyaasada waxaana ku xigta inuu isa sharaxo oo sheekada "amaanada" ka baxo :lol

BTW Qeybdiid is getting elected soon wich means Xaaf replacing Fiqi!
:up: good news

Ustaad I only wished that Madasha were more coherent and United in their fight against Farmaajo than simply aiming for the kursi, they could have aided Rooble in the fight against sharboweybe mooge instead most of them were against him when he needed them the most, only HSM and AAW was backing him.
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Sahal its almost Febuary 8 and Mooge is still in power? When will he go? Its 5 years now?
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niggas r arguing about unfair elections. blaiming Farmajo or Roble. how about the 2 guys b4 Farmajo. who allowed governor Deni to rig elections? n if I was Farmajo or Roble, knowing Puntland's election rigging practices are being copied by tha otha 4 federal provinces, y would I rush elections? again I don't even think either of 'em r delaying.

Roble ain't even running. n Farmajo was trynna get governor Deni to hold elections since last year. the biggest problem in Somalia since day 1. letting a federal province veto tha ex italian colony's federal government.

how can tha 2 predecessors b4 Farmajo r blame Farmajo or Roble 4 tha problems caused by Puntland? u can't grant a stealth secessionist enclave tha power to cause powers then blame ur succesors 4 tha problem cuased by stealth secessionist Puntland
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It seems that the election train has started in favor of the FMS that will choose the voters and notables through SEIT wich was impowered by the "habraaca cusub" The international community rejected similar elections to the senate elections that took more than three months and said rhat it should take place within this year otherwise they will not pay any penny on fake and partial elections. Of course, everyone is after the money so they started showing some flexibility and at least in December most of the mps will be elected and they will elect a temporary speaker wich will end the Role of Mursal forever and an older independent member will be elected as interim speaker but there are two issues before the start of the elections that must be solved the first is about a new Garbahaarey administration to work with JLs SEIT the second is not on the schedule but is taking place behind the scenes and is Guudlaawe insisting on visiting Baladweyne otherwise "there will be no elections" this is nonsense. Everything was prepared in Baladweyne before Jowhar itself, such as the polling centers and tomorrow the ballot box will be arriving but can he still visit it? that is another issue. Firstly the little time is not in his favour secondly unlike of Gedo local hirshabelle administration is recognized and the head of SEIT is from Hiiraan so why does this isbaarist insists on visiting it? Does he want to transfer his isbaaro business to Baladweyne? He cannot use the airport which is located outside of this big city and between it and the polling station are 7km and the streets will be closed on him. also badbaado Hiiraan in xerada lamagalaay ended the helicopter scenario.

I hope Rooble to leave this file to the next government and not take him with him to Baladweyne.

btw we are not against Guudlaawe and personally i see him as president but Hiiraan will not accept him until the gentleman's agreement is restored not necessary to have the president but the capital and other powersharing Jowhar had yesterday.

Rooble is on his way to Dusmareb then to Garowe. PL media says Madoobe will be in Garowe at the same time but Rooble plans to visit JL(Kismaayo and Gedo) too and Hirshabelle( Baladweyne)




this will be the polling station in Baladweyne




The guy left of Dabageed with the blue or black suit is a Nairobi based business man called Sheikh Abdulqadir Mumin one of the funders of Xuud they r trying with him but Jabhada refused it. look the face of dabageed quus :pac:
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sahal80 wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:27 pm It seems that the election train has started in favor of the FMS that will choose the voters and notables through SEIT wich was impowered by the "habraaca cusub" The international community rejected similar elections to the senate elections that took more than three months and said rhat it should take place within this year otherwise they will not pay any penny on fake and partial elections. Of course, everyone is after the money so they started showing some flexibility and at least in December most of the mps will be elected and they will elect a temporary speaker wich will end the Role of Mursal forever and an older independent member will be elected as interim speaker but there are two issues before the start of the elections that must be solved the first is about a new Garbahaarey administration to work with JLs SEIT the second is not on the schedule but is taking place behind the scenes and is Guudlaawe insisting on visiting Baladweyne otherwise "there will be no elections" this is nonsense. Everything was prepared in Baladweyne before Jowhar itself, such as the polling centers and tomorrow the ballot box will be arriving but can he still visit it? that is another issue. Firstly the little time is not in his favour secondly unlike of Gedo local hirshabelle administration is recognized and the head of SEIT is from Hiiraan so why does this isbaarist insists on visiting it? Does he want to transfer his isbaaro business to Baladweyne? He cannot use the airport which is located outside of this big city and between it and the polling station are 7km and the streets will be closed on him. also badbaado Hiiraan in xerada lamagalaay ended the helicopter scenario.

I hope Rooble to leave this file to the next government and not take him with him to Baladweyne.

btw we are not against Guudlaawe and personally i see him as president but Hiiraan will not accept him until the gentleman's agreement is restored not necessary to have the president but the capital and other powersharing Jowhar had yesterday.

Rooble is on his way to Dusmareb then to Garowe. PL media says Madoobe will be in Garowe at the same time but Rooble plans to visit JL(Kismaayo and Gedo) too and Hirshabelle( Baladweyne)




this will be the polling station in Baladweyne




The guy left of Dabageed with the blue or black suit is a Nairobi based business man called Sheikh Abdulqadir Mumin one of the funders of Xuud they r trying with him but Jabhada refused it. look the face of dabageed quus :pac:
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Sahal i wholeheartedly agree with you that Beesha Xawadle should fight for their rights and Interests in keeping the Beledweyne as the 2nd election venue as agreed and also they should fight to bring back the agreed Contract reer Hiiraan and S/dhexe had in saami qeybsi / powersharings, ignoring this agreement is a political suicide because its an legal document signed under IGAD and SFG that should be adhered at all cost.

Somalis are dad madax adeeg who play zero-sum game, therefor one must always scream and fight louder to get his right/interests heard and respected.
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Kees70 wrote: Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:01 am
sahal80 wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:27 pm It seems that the election train has started in favor of the FMS that will choose the voters and notables through SEIT wich was impowered by the "habraaca cusub" The international community rejected similar elections to the senate elections that took more than three months and said rhat it should take place within this year otherwise they will not pay any penny on fake and partial elections. Of course, everyone is after the money so they started showing some flexibility and at least in December most of the mps will be elected and they will elect a temporary speaker wich will end the Role of Mursal forever and an older independent member will be elected as interim speaker but there are two issues before the start of the elections that must be solved the first is about a new Garbahaarey administration to work with JLs SEIT the second is not on the schedule but is taking place behind the scenes and is Guudlaawe insisting on visiting Baladweyne otherwise "there will be no elections" this is nonsense. Everything was prepared in Baladweyne before Jowhar itself, such as the polling centers and tomorrow the ballot box will be arriving but can he still visit it? that is another issue. Firstly the little time is not in his favour secondly unlike of Gedo local hirshabelle administration is recognized and the head of SEIT is from Hiiraan so why does this isbaarist insists on visiting it? Does he want to transfer his isbaaro business to Baladweyne? He cannot use the airport which is located outside of this big city and between it and the polling station are 7km and the streets will be closed on him. also badbaado Hiiraan in xerada lamagalaay ended the helicopter scenario.

I hope Rooble to leave this file to the next government and not take him with him to Baladweyne.

btw we are not against Guudlaawe and personally i see him as president but Hiiraan will not accept him until the gentleman's agreement is restored not necessary to have the president but the capital and other powersharing Jowhar had yesterday.

Rooble is on his way to Dusmareb then to Garowe. PL media says Madoobe will be in Garowe at the same time but Rooble plans to visit JL(Kismaayo and Gedo) too and Hirshabelle( Baladweyne)




this will be the polling station in Baladweyne




The guy left of Dabageed with the blue or black suit is a Nairobi based business man called Sheikh Abdulqadir Mumin one of the funders of Xuud they r trying with him but Jabhada refused it. look the face of dabageed quus :pac:
:up:

Sahal i wholeheartedly agree with you that Beesha Xawadle should fight for their rights and Interests in keeping the Beledweyne as the 2nd election venue as agreed and also they should fight to bring back the agreed Contract reer Hiiraan and S/dhexe had in saami qeybsi / powersharings, ignoring this agreement is a political suicide because its an legal document signed under IGAD and SFG that should be adhered at all cost.

Somalis are dad madax adeeg who play zero-sum game, therefor one must always scream and fight louder to get his right/interests heard and respected.
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Ustaad Sahal and keese, in fairness, those of us, whose natural immune system, has not yet developed natural antibodies against the deadly Zero-Sum Game Virus, cannot be expected, all of a sudden, to embrace the art of compromise, like you two do.
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barbarossa wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:39 am Ustaad Sahal and keese, in fairness, those of us, whose natural immune system, has not yet developed natural antibodies against the deadly Zero-Sum Game Virus, cannot be expected, all of a sudden, to embrace the art of compromise, like you two do.
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im tired of maryooley like you its no more funny wallahi meel walbe waa kud ka guur oo qanjo u guur. cadkaanoow ama ku cunay ama ku ciideeyay
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listen to my adeer Mustafe Shekh Elmi its part of eternal dhac iyo boob
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Duqda Baladweyne waa dhamaatey suaashii Baladweyne ma ka dhacee doorasho mise maya. laakiin qosol waxaa igu dilay dadka oo leh "sanduuqyada baara amuu Guudlaawe ku soo dhex dhuuntey

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Cirro oo sheegay inay FMSka ka sugayaan liiska murashixiinta oo ka dhigan in pro FMS Habraac doorashada ku bilaabmayso taasoo aheed midka mida caqabadaha daahiyay doorashada


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