Rooble will be micromanaging Galmudug, Hirshabelle and KG and Habraaca august does not apply to them!

[sahal80]

Technically, the disbanded committee was working according to the rules of habraaca August, which strengthened the role of the FMS so they were implementing a policy drawn up for them and enjoyed the plessing of Farmaajo who said during his dispute with Rooble that "he regained his power from him" and that the election committees should continue to work in cooperation with the FMS and here Deni and Madoobe tried to take advantage of the matter by pulling the rug out from under Rooble and trying to lead the elections process instead of him that why they called the cancelled Garowe shir but Madoobe now is on Rooble's side that whay he started the elections after he realized that Farmaajo is working on to abort the election process as i mentioned in my last thread(Farmaajo doorashadii waa la boobay)

Rooble warned the dissolved committee not to accept Fareey and they told him that they are just following the policy set for them in habraaca august so he dismissed them and now the new committee will work on his policy.

based on habraaca august QoorQoor should pick the elders(he picked the muxaafid waceysle boqor instead of the jufo Nabadoon signatories who r pro mucaarid) and these elders should pick the ergada( Voters) and the SEIT should announce the candidates(they announced fareey and his malxiis) this is what the dissolved Commitee basically approved based on the pro FMS August habraac!

now the new members will work on Rooble orders when it comes to Hirshabelle, Galmudug and KG and Dir mps. any one he tells them to not approve they will!

Djibouti president picked a list of ciise and Dir members and gave it to Rooble during his oresence in Djibouti. It is worth noting that Geele and Farmaajo did not meet in Qatar.

keep dreaming Dabageed can do shit we already contacted Rooble and Gen Xuud is in the town

[TarTar]

Technically, the disbanded committee was working according to the rules of habraaca August, which strengthened the role of the FMS so they were implementing a policy drawn up for them and enjoyed the plessing of Farmaajo who said during his dispute with Rooble that "he regained his power from him" and that the election committees should continue to work in cooperation with the FMS and here Deni and Madoobe tried to take advantage of the matter by pulling the rug out from under Rooble and trying to lead the elections process instead of him that why they called the cancelled Garowe shir but Madoobe now is on Rooble's side that whay he started the elections after he realized that Farmaajo is working on to abort the election process as i mentioned in my last thread(Farmaajo doorashadii waa la boobay)

Rooble warned the dissolved committee not to accept Fareey and they told him that they are just following the policy set for them in habraaca august so he dismissed them and now the new committee will work on his policy.

based on habraaca august QoorQoor should pick the elders(he picked the muxaafid waceysle boqor instead of the jufo Nabadoon signatories who r pro mucaarid) and these elders should pick the ergada( Voters) and the SEIT should announce the candidates(they announced fareey and his malxiis) this is what the dissolved Commitee basically approved based on the pro FMS August habraac!

now the new members will work on Rooble orders when it comes to Hirshabelle, Galmudug and KG and Dir mps. any one he tells them to not approve they will!

Djibouti president picked a list of ciise and Dir members and gave it to Rooble during his oresence in Djibouti. It is worth noting that Geele and Farmaajo did not meet in Qatar.

keep dreaming Dabageed can do shit we already contacted Rooble and Gen Xuud is in the town

just need to clarify for the ex italian colony. tha real Dir from Somaliland Issa n Samaron. isak has to pretend to be Dir under tha 4.5 system. but real Dir in Somaliland n Isak who pretend to be Dir both agree. in Somaliland Isak r not Dir. Isak n Dir never claimed each other in Somaliland, Hawd, or Djibouti

[Kees70]

Rooble has clearly won and will continue the election, and Deni finally reveals his hate towards MM.

[TarTar]

Rooble has clearly won and will continue the election, and Deni finally reveals his hate towards MM.

this is wut I like about marehan n habargidir. these well intentioned Abgal leaders don't know tha haterade dat exists in budhcadland. idoorade, bonhaterade, cagderade, hawiyahaterade, wasakhgali-ade, dolbahantade, no matter

as sultanorder said Roble a Sa'ad guy knows wut Deni's favorite flavors include hawiyahtereade along with tha boon n idoor flavored everyday haterade

[Sbashi]

Rooble had no right to kick out the 7 members. Based on the election agreements the FMS + Rooble could only fire them. He also has no reason to fire them, they followed the correct procedures based on august agreement like you said. So what does this mean? It simply means rooble is throwing a tantrum about what he already signed. He is scapegoating them to appease MM. Only way MM can be appeased is if the august agreement is rescinded and power is given to clan elders instead of FMS. Something the FMS will NEVER agree on. Rooble's plan won't work, he can run around like a headless chicken but nothing will change. FMS have the power in this election. I heard he is trying to reach a new agreement in mogadishu this time.

As for micromanaging that won't ever work. And I laughed really hard that august agreement doesn't apply on 3 fms but only applies to JL and PL. Rooble is really delusional if he thinks he can reject an mp or not based on whether he likes it or not. The sh*tshow that happens from that might just be what rooble needs to resign.

[sahal80]

Rooble had no right to kick out the 7 members. Based on the election agreements the FMS + Rooble could only fire them. He also has no reason to fire them, they followed the correct procedures based on august agreement like you said. So what does this mean? It simply means rooble is throwing a tantrum about what he already signed. He is scapegoating them to appease MM. Only way MM can be appeased is if the august agreement is rescinded and power is given to clan elders instead of FMS. Something the FMS will NEVER agree on. Rooble's plan won't work, he can run around like a headless chicken but nothing will change. FMS have the power in this election. I heard he is trying to reach a new agreement in mogadishu this time.

As for micromanaging that won't ever work. And I laughed really hard that august agreement doesn't apply on 3 fms but only applies to JL and PL. Rooble is really delusional if he thinks he can reject an mp or not based on whether he likes it or not. The sh*tshow that happens from that might just be what rooble needs to resign.

As you don't believe in a conspiracy theory the discussion with you will be serious. yes the dissolved committee was acting according to the August habraac wich is bro FMS and Farmaajo was blessing this as he is the closer to some of them than the MM. now Rooble will veto against Galmudug, Hirshabelle and KG to accommodate the MM but JL and PL laguma dhagana by MM. this move will damage only Famaajo.

last night QoorQoor said hope Deni as well corrects from his side even small percentage. Deni replied to him you have to correct fully from your side all my list will be correct!




good Analysis by this guy.

[Sbashi]

Sahal, the FMS have many options. In 2016 guleed simply said i'm kicking out the committee out of Galmudug! imagine what happens now with the power of the election in their hands! They can boycott the election until rooble agrees to their demands, they can go ahead and say the mp will never be reelected as there is no evidence by the committee that they violated the agreement, they can simply cast doubt on the committee's fairness and independence since rooble fired the previous members etc.
Many options, rooble won't win a political battle against the FMS.

Besides, how many kursi can rooble really stop hypothetically speaking, i don't think he will manage to stop even 1. But lets say he has the power to and the FMS can't do anything about it. How many? maybe one or two out of 20-30, he can't say every kursi is stolen. Even if it's repeated, it would go to the same person. How many times will the same seat be reelected? I don't see this plan working.

[sahal80]

Sahal, the FMS have many options. In 2016 guleed simply said i'm kicking out the committee out of Galmudug! imagine what happens now with the power of the election in their hands! They can boycott the election until rooble agrees to their demands, they can go ahead and say the mp will never be reelected as there is no evidence by the committee that they violated the agreement, they can simply cast doubt on the committee's fairness and independence since rooble fired the previous members etc.
Many options, rooble won't win a political battle against the FMS.

Besides, how many kursi can rooble really stop hypothetically speaking, i don't think he will manage to stop even 1. But lets say he has the power to and the FMS can't do anything about it. How many? maybe one or two out of 20-30, he can't say every kursi is stolen. Even if it's repeated, it would go to the same person. How many times will the same seat be reelected? I don't see this plan working.

we will see. This thing is a matter of life and death for Rooble because if the boob continues than Farmaajo will use this as an excuse and call for direct elections and bc the situation in Xamar relays on Hawiye he will get the support of some of them like Shariif. MM have splitted into 3 lines: Guuleed and Kheyre supporting this current process, Hassan Sheikh section calling for Golo qaran supported by Dahir Geele and AAW and Shariif supporting what CCC and Farmaajo suggested to him like forming "Midnimo qaran Govt" with Farmaajo probably led by Abgaal pm picked by Sharif. Farmaajo real position is this planB so Rooble and QoorQoor and HG understand this so they support to hold an agreed upon elections now. Deni and madoobe support this bc they dont want Farmaajo to stay longer also this will end the role of the FMS so even laftagareen supports it so Deni and Madoobe are supporting to accommodate the MM but only at the expense of Galmudug, Hirshabelle and KG.

[Sbashi]

Sahal, the FMS have many options. In 2016 guleed simply said i'm kicking out the committee out of Galmudug! imagine what happens now with the power of the election in their hands! They can boycott the election until rooble agrees to their demands, they can go ahead and say the mp will never be reelected as there is no evidence by the committee that they violated the agreement, they can simply cast doubt on the committee's fairness and independence since rooble fired the previous members etc.
Many options, rooble won't win a political battle against the FMS.

Besides, how many kursi can rooble really stop hypothetically speaking, i don't think he will manage to stop even 1. But lets say he has the power to and the FMS can't do anything about it. How many? maybe one or two out of 20-30, he can't say every kursi is stolen. Even if it's repeated, it would go to the same person. How many times will the same seat be reelected? I don't see this plan working.

we will see. This thing is a matter of life and death for Rooble because if the boob continues than Farmaajo will use this as an excuse and call for direct elections and bc the situation in Xamar relays on Hawiye he will get the support of some of them like Shariif. MM have splitted into 3 lines: Guuleed and Kheyre supporting this current process, Hassan Sheikh section calling for Golo qaran supported by Dahir Geele and AAW and Shariif supporting what CCC and Farmaajo suggested to him like forming "Midnimo qaran Govt" with Farmaajo probably led by Abgaal pm picked by Sharif. Farmaajo real position is this planB so Rooble and QoorQoor and HG understand this so they support to hold agreed upon elections now. Deni and madoobe support this bc they dont want Farmaajo to stay longer also this will end the role of the FMS so even laftagareen supports it so Deni and Madoobe are supporting to accommodate the MM but only at the expense of Galmudug, Hirshabelle and KG.

Maybe some mps will be allocated for the MM so they don't shout. This seems like a good option. If rooble and FMS agree on that. I don't understand why MM won't demand for seats in Puntland and JL? In JL only kheire will probably get some seats but not anyone else. If MM are smart they'd make it harder for Deni who is their biggest competitor besides Farmaajo. Giving Deni all of Puntland and majority of JL will put Deni above them.

[Kees70]

Sahal, the FMS have many options. In 2016 guleed simply said i'm kicking out the committee out of Galmudug! imagine what happens now with the power of the election in their hands! They can boycott the election until rooble agrees to their demands, they can go ahead and say the mp will never be reelected as there is no evidence by the committee that they violated the agreement, they can simply cast doubt on the committee's fairness and independence since rooble fired the previous members etc.
Many options, rooble won't win a political battle against the FMS.

Besides, how many kursi can rooble really stop hypothetically speaking, i don't think he will manage to stop even 1. But lets say he has the power to and the FMS can't do anything about it. How many? maybe one or two out of 20-30, he can't say every kursi is stolen. Even if it's repeated, it would go to the same person. How many times will the same seat be reelected? I don't see this plan working.

we will see. This thing is a matter of life and death for Rooble because if the boob continues than Farmaajo will use this as an excuse and call for direct elections and bc the situation in Xamar relays on Hawiye he will get the support of some of them like Shariif. MM have splitted into 3 lines: Guuleed and Kheyre supporting this current process, Hassan Sheikh section calling for Golo qaran supported by Dahir Geele and AAW and Shariif supporting what CCC and Farmaajo suggested to him like forming "Midnimo qaran Govt" with Farmaajo probably led by Abgaal pm picked by Sharif. Farmaajo real position is this planB so Rooble and QoorQoor and HG understand this so they support to hold an agreed upon elections now. Deni and madoobe support this bc they dont want Farmaajo to stay longer also this will end the role of the FMS so even laftagareen supports it so Deni and Madoobe are supporting to accommodate the MM but only at the expense of Galmudug, Hirshabelle and KG.

Sahal the game has already ended with Rooble and MM winning the battle, what sealed for MM is when JL and PL announced to start their MP selections, which than guarantees that no Gole and no 2 year extension will be a reality, as for Galmudug, Hirshabell, and KG i really doubt that Rooble will give it to the crying xoolada MM.

As for the 2 year extension that doqonka ''Thumma Walahi'' shariif is running for farmaajo, it will never happen, simply because no one person like shariif can make an unilateral decision such sacking an acting Government of PM Rooble and adding an extension to farmaajo for 2 years without any civil-war happening, its the same mistake his ina adeer Ali mahdi made when he too unilaterally made his own government without consulting and agreement of others which resulted the 4 Months war.

Shariif cant even broker a peace within his own Sub-clan, so i very much doubt he can add Farmaajo a 2 years extension without a major Civil-war breaking out.

https://muqdisho.online/sh-sharif-oo-be ... sha-daawo/



The only thing Rooble needs to do, is continue with the election by making both JL and PL start now, and than ignore the wailing MM.