can af maay be considered Somali dialect?

[sahal80]

The main difference between the two dialects are the pronunciation and maay using some phrases that are common in south-central af Maxaa dialect like intee roogtaan oo laga wado intee joogtaan so someone from waqooyi will not understand it. therefore i dont think maay can be considered somali dialect there are similar languages like Saho and afar or balochi and kurdish, spanish and portuguese what makes af maay speakers different than those? why not consider them separate ethnicity?

here some translation

"Gudiga SEIT PL ayaa sheegay lixda(litta) kursi ee(ya) ugu(inka)danbeesa(dumbooyta) Doorashada PL

Rooble oo ka qeyb galay shir loogaga(liinkaga) hadlaayay(dhowaahaayi)in loo gurmado dadka abaarta saameeyeen
"Sawirà :-Ra'iisul wasaaragà hukuumadà Soomaaliya Mahamed Huseen Rooble o ku qeyb gàli shir liingkà dowahaayi abaaro dalkà i ing gurmàdowkà dadkà abaaro saameyeng."

DegDeg:Guddigà SEIT Putland yà sheegeng littà gember e inkà dumbooytà doorashoodà Putland


Isaag Ali Subig yà kà gulleysadi(ku guuleystey)gemberkà(kursiga) tirsajey(tirsigiisa) eyi(yahay)HOP#204 e xildhibaanimi Gollo shicibkà haku reed(kadib markii) doorashà ku dhiidi(doorashadiisa ka dhacdey) beledkà baydhàwà(magaalada baydhabo)







https://fb.watch/bMpZs9-YkJ/

[Kees70]

Sahal im always amazed at Somalis who say Af-maay is an Somali dialect, because it is completely not an Somali Language at all, af-maay has no resemblance to Af-maxa tiri whch we fully understand in Shanta Somaliweyne.

Aniga when i first arrived here in Somalia, i honestly thought af-maay was an bantu or a Oromo language, because it is totally different than an Af-Somali me and all my Family and friends speak.

I honestly believe that Beesha Raxanweyne Af-maay people are not Somali Asal even their lineage is not Somali but Sab who could be an Cushitic ethnic like Oromo.

Anyway in Short, Af-maay is not Af-Somali, and anyone who says it is, is focking lying to himself!

[gobdoon]

Sahal the more I read your posts the more I realise you don't have the best interests of Somali people and Somalia and some how suspect you are an agent who is working every thing Somalia stands for
Your priority and what you advocate for purely Qabiil and the disintegrating of our people and our country and yet you have no connection with Somalia, you were brought up in Arab countries then you came in the west as a refugee and yet instead of contributing something positive the land of your fore father's you chose to inflame the fire burning there, so I would ask you examine your consciousness

[STARKAST]

Sahal the more I read your posts the more I realise you don't have the best interests of Somali people and Somalia and some how suspect you are an agent who is working every thing Somalia stands for
Your priority and what you advocate for purely Qabiil and the disintegrating of our people and our country and yet you have no connection with Somalia, you were brought up in Arab countries then you came in the west as a refugee and yet instead of contributing something positive the land of your fore father's you chose to inflame the fire burning there, so I would ask you examine your consciousness

Most Somali resourceful analysts in the west are on some sort of payroll somewhere.

[sahal80]

Sahal the more I read your posts the more I realise you don't have the best interests of Somali people and Somalia and some how suspect you are an agent who is working every thing Somalia stands for
Your priority and what you advocate for purely Qabiil and the disintegrating of our people and our country and yet you have no connection with Somalia, you were brought up in Arab countries then you came in the west as a refugee and yet instead of contributing something positive the land of your fore father's you chose to inflame the fire burning there, so I would ask you examine your consciousness

Af maay is unintelligible with Maxaa tiri speakers specially reer waqooyi. if you read oromo in twitter you will see alot of common words you may understand 10% but that does not means its af somali

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maay_Ma ... nd%20Kenya

translate to me these words if you understand?

Ul-Haykà, yà geekà, weeldhidi, duwahey, yà maybà, età, lidanka, dorung

[gobdoon]

I don't know how long you been in England but there are different dialect and accent like like Wales, Northern, Scottish and West country etc
But then for who are you to decide May May Somali dialect is alian and not Somali and compare it other languages spoken in Ethiopia

[sahal80]

Sahal the more I read your posts the more I realise you don't have the best interests of Somali people and Somalia and some how suspect you are an agent who is working every thing Somalia stands for
Your priority and what you advocate for purely Qabiil and the disintegrating of our people and our country and yet you have no connection with Somalia, you were brought up in Arab countries then you came in the west as a refugee and yet instead of contributing something positive the land of your fore father's you chose to inflame the fire burning there, so I would ask you examine your consciousness

Most Somali resourceful analysts in the west are on some sort of payroll somewhere.

I'm not at this level sxb im only posting as i see this dialect. in Oman and Yemen there are 8 non Arabic languages and in Iraq and Syria. The relationship of the standard Somali with the Maay dialect is similar to the relationship of Aramaic with Arabic and the latter evolved from Aramaic.

example in Aramiac

ايلى ايلى لما شبقتنى
in Arabic

الهى الهى لماذا سبقتنى( اى تركتنى)

We must distinguish between nationality and language. Af maay speakers are Somalis the same way Aramiac speakers are Syrians but not the same language.

[sahal80]

I don't know how long you been in England but there are different dialect and accent like like Wales, Northern, Scottish and West country etc
But then for who are you to decide May May Somali dialect is alian and not Somali and compare it other languages spoken in Ethiopia

so you don't understand what i asked you to translate. see? hadaadan af garaneynin maaha lahjad af somali ah waa luqad somalia looga hadlo.

[SultanOrder]

Sahal the more I read your posts the more I realise you don't have the best interests of Somali people and Somalia and some how suspect you are an agent who is working every thing Somalia stands for
Your priority and what you advocate for purely Qabiil and the disintegrating of our people and our country and yet you have no connection with Somalia, you were brought up in Arab countries then you came in the west as a refugee and yet instead of contributing something positive the land of your fore father's you chose to inflame the fire burning there, so I would ask you examine your consciousness

Most Somali resourceful analysts in the west are on some sort of payroll somewhere.

I'm not at this level sxb im only posting as i see this dialect. in Oman and Yemen there are 8 non Arabic languages and in Iraq and Syria. The relationship of the standard Somali with the Maay dialect is similar to the relationship of Aramaic with Arabic and the latter evolved from Aramaic.

example in Aramic

ايلى ايلى لما شبقتنى
in Arabic

الهى الهى لماذا سبقتنى( اى تركتنى)

We must distinguish between nationality and language. Af maay speakers are Somalis the same way Aramic speakers are Syrians but not the same language.

Bring any source that substantiates your claim that Arabic evolved from Aramaic. You don’t know what you are talking about. How do you distinguish dialect from language? Why does Somali belong to maxaa tiri and not the other way around?

[sahal80]

Most Somali resourceful analysts in the west are on some sort of payroll somewhere.

I'm not at this level sxb im only posting as i see this dialect. in Oman and Yemen there are 8 non Arabic languages and in Iraq and Syria. The relationship of the standard Somali with the Maay dialect is similar to the relationship of Aramaic with Arabic and the latter evolved from Aramaic.

example in Aramic

ايلى ايلى لما شبقتنى
in Arabic

الهى الهى لماذا سبقتنى( اى تركتنى)

We must distinguish between nationality and language. Af maay speakers are Somalis the same way Aramic speakers are Syrians but not the same language.

Bring any source that substantiates your claim that Arabic evolved from Aramaic. You don’t know what you are talking about. How do you distinguish dialect from language? Why does Somali belong to maxaa tiri and not the other way around?

baabkaan xeroow aad ka tahay maa iska dhaaftid
hadaan cashar kuu dhigana ku qabso ku qadimeysid baad gali


First you need to be deprogrammed from these Xeroow books who call Quraysh to be "العرب المستعربة"

the "Arabized Arabs”
also known as the Adnani Arabs and calling the Qatanite Yemenis who originate from the southern region of the Arabian Peninsula,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joktan
" العرب العاربة" the pure Arabs.
These myths have no basis because Yemen before Islam used to speak the Himyarite language which is southern Semitic like the Ethiopic Language(Abbyssinian) so how did the Arabs learn the language of the Qur’an from the Yemanese who can't speak it?




Secondly yaa talmiid don't you know that hebrew and phoenician and Arabic(by extension) are derived from the Aramiac language? Wich language the progenitor of the Arabs and Jews Abraham spoke? was not Aramiac? so Arabic is derived from Syriac which is in turn is derived from Aramaic. Arabic script itself is derived from Syriac.

don't come up with this Xerow BS (the first person to speak Arabic was Ishmael: "Isma'il grew up among the Jurhum (an Arabic-speaking tribe)

im too sophisticated for you when it comes to the middle east history and Arabic studies stick with your American conspiracy theory. i get calls from al arabiya channel
انت فين وانا فين

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syriac_ ... ent%20form.

This is Saudi Arabian researcher. 80% of Arabic vocabulary comes from Syriac. السريانية

[SultanOrder]

Do you understand what derived means? Who says Hebrew and Phoenician is derived from Aramaic? So now all three languages are derived from Aramaic. Please back up these claims with credible sources. Again you don’t know what you are talking about!

I don’t know who you are responding to about “xerow” bs, I never mentioned anything about Abraham or Ishmael or Yemenis.

Are you retarded when you come with a video that claims 80% of Arabic comes from Syriac. That’s as regarded as nutjobs that make the same claim about the Quran. Stop embarrassing yourself.

[TarTar]

sahal n so make good points. maybe thse niggas speak a different language. n their language older maybe good thing that ain't a problem i gotta worry about. good luck to linguists from the ex italian colony

[sahal80]

marka aadan waxaadan ogeen isku soo tuurtid taasoo kalaa ku dhaceysa. lost in transilation aa ka dhacdey!

If maay is not different language than rendille is Somali. like federalism we need to accept that Somalis are linguistically and culturally diverse far from the big lie of the somali people having linguistic and cultural homogeneity!

this guy is D&M writer

[Kees70]

marka aadan waxaadan ogeen isku soo tuurtid taasoo kalaa ku dhaceysa. lost in transilation aa ka dhacdey!

If maay is not different language than rendille is Somali. like federalism we need to accept that Somalis are linguistically and culturally diverse far from the big lie of the somali people having linguistic and cultural homogeneity!

this guy is D&M writer

Ustaad ignore these ignorant inbreds who cant tell the difference between a Dialect and a Language, how in Allah's name is Af-Maay an Dialect when the Normal Somali person cant understand a single word from it???

By example, the words ''Come here'' in Af-maxa tiri is ''Kaaley'' while in Af-maay is ''goy'', so as you see its a 2 different language, af-maay is an unique language only spoken by reer Bay iyo Bakool and that says something.

[sahal80]

marka aadan waxaadan ogeen isku soo tuurtid taasoo kalaa ku dhaceysa. lost in transilation aa ka dhacdey!

If maay is not different language than rendille is Somali. like federalism we need to accept that Somalis are linguistically and culturally diverse far from the big lie of the somali people having linguistic and cultural homogeneity!

this guy is D&M writer

Ustaad ignore these ignorant inbreds who cant tell the difference between a Dialect and a Language, how in Allah's name is Af-Maay an Dialect when the Normal Somali person cant understand a single word from it???

By example, the words ''Come here'' in Af-maxa tiri is ''Kaaley'' while in Af-maay is ''goy'', so as you see its a 2 different language, af-maay is an unique language only spoken by reer Bay iyo Bakool and that says something.

That why the UK home office has three "different Somali interpreters" for Af-Maxaa, Maay and barawani
how can this "dialect" is intelligible to speakers of af-Maxaa waliba someone from berbera? BS!