where were you in 1968?

[sahal80]

you were not on the political map


i had political party (SNC) with 22 seats in the parliament.

i told you this many times Hiiraan had 12 mps 7 of them were Hawadle we were equal the to whole hiraab who something like 4 each leave alone Mx who had 3 mps

Carta mj ayaa ka maqnaa MX aa u qeybiyay ayaga iyo Daaroodka(Mx has 14 and MJ12 but bc of PL MJ have 5 in aqalka sare that is 17 ajd mx have 2 in aqalka sare 16 ) saas ku qaateen wax badan waliba wax badan baa laga soo dhigay oo daaroodka yaryar ku qadi gaareen sida awrtable iyo leelkase

4.5 waxaa lagu qeybiyay qabiil ee laguma qeybin gobol. Buuloburdo alone had more mps than Jowhar abd Xamar(7)

hadii aan hawiye ka helnay 8 halka proper hawiye Abgaal 9 ka heleen murusadana 7 comparing to hawiyeraaca kale sida Ajuuraan and Garjante gardheere oo loo waayay kuraas so they joined beeshashanaad, Gaaljecel got 4, Sheekhaal oo sadex heleen and Dagoodia who got nothing so meel fiican kuma jirno? Kudar labada aqalka sare oon gacanteena ku qoronay anagoo ah hogaanka Hirshabelle. wa idinkaga horeeynay siyaasada lafihiina ilaashada the only beesha who elected its mps
https://fb.watch/cfNYzgn-G0/

[Amin5457]

if 4.5 is ever abolished, xl will be thrown in with the langaabs. 1930, abgaal were around 110k whilst XL was around 30k. that's almost quadrible their population lol. Forget about mudulood hiraab whos on par with hg lineage wise. Face it ahki your langaab. you probably don't make up 50% of hiraan population. gugundhabe + makaane dominate that region. plus in xamar you only live in two neighbourhoods. that's so sad

[Kees70]

Ustaad Sahal i always said that this 4.5 system based on qabiil is for langaabs without deegaans, imagine qabiils who only share 1 Tuulo with other qabiils in whole of Somalia have an excess 7+MPs while Qabiils who have a whole Gobol like HGs, Xawadle and Abgaals have a meager small MPs.

Walahi we Need to change this 4.5 system in Somalia and make it based on Populations or Federal State system.

Even DDSI in Ethiopia is dealing the population with the reality facts on the ground, today the DDSI Jigjiga Admin has recognized HGs as one of the Communities of Deegaanka Qoraxeey, and even today we elected our own Mayor in Lababaar.

Somalia need to follow Ethiopia and Kenya style and make their saama qeybsi be based on population and not on qabiil 4.5 system that supports landless langaabs.

Reer Qoraxeey Shilaabo Community peace conference in Jigjiga.


HG Mayor in Lababaar City in DDSI.

[sahal80]

Ustaad Sahal i always said that this 4.5 system based on qabiil is for langaabs without deegaans, imagine qabiils who only have 1 Tuulo in whole of Somalia have an excess 7+MPs while Qabiils who have a whole Gobol like HGs, Xawadle and Abgaals have a meager small MPs.

Walahi we Need to change this 4.5 system in Somalia and make it based on Populations or Federal State system.

Even DDSI in Ethiopia is dealing the population with the reality facts on the ground, today the DDSI Jigjiga Admin has recognised HGs as one of the Communities of Deegaanka Qoraxeey, so and even today we elected our own Mayor in Lababaar.

Somalia need to follow Ethiopia and Kenya style and make their saama qeybsi be based on population and not on qabiil 4.5 system that supports landless langaabs.

Reer Qoraxeey Shilaabo Community peace conference in Jigjiga.


HG Mayor in Lababaar City in DDSI.

exactly. HG have Galmudug so it will have more mps in post 4.5 parliament. Hirshabelle 70% is from Hiiraan right now so we have a tactical and temporary plan to move the capital to Baladweyne under Maxbuus Guudlaawe and reform the parliament and powersharing. this 70% will mainly go to Hawadle. s nabadoon giriig said hawadle had 7 mps out of the hiiraans 12 mps in the 60s so that is how hiiraan share will be divided 51% hawadle and we will create two goboles for hiiraan while Jowhar will stay as one gobol. and based on each States Degmos and gobols the federal mps will come from each states gobols and degmos. that why those who have no State and kurdish who r divided in many regions will go back to their 60s laangaab status in the future federal parliament. we dont want now president until we reform hirshabelle first in this year then we will run for president. Guudlaawe was created by F&F he will go with them and dont forget federalism is there bc of Ethiopia who has borders with Hiiraan.

[theyuusuf143]

The 4.5 is designed to empower the women and laangaabs. It's very unfair to all major clans.

[Kees70]

Ustaad Sahal i always said that this 4.5 system based on qabiil is for langaabs without deegaans, imagine qabiils who only have 1 Tuulo in whole of Somalia have an excess 7+MPs while Qabiils who have a whole Gobol like HGs, Xawadle and Abgaals have a meager small MPs.

Walahi we Need to change this 4.5 system in Somalia and make it based on Populations or Federal State system.

Even DDSI in Ethiopia is dealing the population with the reality facts on the ground, today the DDSI Jigjiga Admin has recognised HGs as one of the Communities of Deegaanka Qoraxeey, so and even today we elected our own Mayor in Lababaar.

Somalia need to follow Ethiopia and Kenya style and make their saama qeybsi be based on population and not on qabiil 4.5 system that supports landless langaabs.

Reer Qoraxeey Shilaabo Community peace conference in Jigjiga.


HG Mayor in Lababaar City in DDSI.

exactly. HG have Galmudug so it will have more mps in post 4.5 parliament. Hirshabelle 70% is from Hiiraan right now so we have a tactical and temporary plan to move the capital to Baladweyne under Maxbuus Guudlaawe and reform the parliament and powersharing. this 70% will mainly go to Hawadle and we will create two goboles for hiiraan while Jowhar will stay as one gobol. and based on each States Degmos and gobols the federal mps will come from each states gobols and degmos. that why those who have no State and kurdish who r divided in many regions will go back to their 60s laangaab status in the future federal parliament. we dont want now president until we reform hirshabelle first in this year then we will run for president.

Ustaadow well said, that the future of Somalia should be like USA system based on who has Federal states, Horta Beesha Xawadle them having gobalka Hiiraan itself they should have at least 15-16 MPs or more, so i hope this xaq-daro of 4.5 system gets thrown in the qashin ASAP.

As for anuga Beesha HG we dont care who becomes the next weak Somalia's President so long we have our own Autonomous Federal state and we can attend to our own State's affairs and also in the near future we can work toward fixing this failed system 4.5 of the Parliamentary MP allocation and make it more based on Federal State MP allocations.

Let all the landless langaab looma oyaan die out in Somalia insha'Allahi.

[sahal80]

Ustaad Sahal i always said that this 4.5 system based on qabiil is for langaabs without deegaans, imagine qabiils who only have 1 Tuulo in whole of Somalia have an excess 7+MPs while Qabiils who have a whole Gobol like HGs, Xawadle and Abgaals have a meager small MPs.

Walahi we Need to change this 4.5 system in Somalia and make it based on Populations or Federal State system.

Even DDSI in Ethiopia is dealing the population with the reality facts on the ground, today the DDSI Jigjiga Admin has recognised HGs as one of the Communities of Deegaanka Qoraxeey, so and even today we elected our own Mayor in Lababaar.

Somalia need to follow Ethiopia and Kenya style and make their saama qeybsi be based on population and not on qabiil 4.5 system that supports landless langaabs.

Reer Qoraxeey Shilaabo Community peace conference in Jigjiga.


HG Mayor in Lababaar City in DDSI.

exactly. HG have Galmudug so it will have more mps in post 4.5 parliament. Hirshabelle 70% is from Hiiraan right now so we have a tactical and temporary plan to move the capital to Baladweyne under Maxbuus Guudlaawe and reform the parliament and powersharing. this 70% will mainly go to Hawadle and we will create two goboles for hiiraan while Jowhar will stay as one gobol. and based on each States Degmos and gobols the federal mps will come from each states gobols and degmos. that why those who have no State and kurdish who r divided in many regions will go back to their 60s laangaab status in the future federal parliament. we dont want now president until we reform hirshabelle first in this year then we will run for president.

Ustaadow well said, that the future of Somalia should be like USA system based on who has Federal states, Horta Beesha Xawadle them having gobalka Hiiraan itself they should have at least 15-16 MPs or more, so i hope this xaq-daro of 4.5 system gets thrown in the qashin ASAP.

As for anuga Beesha HG we dont care who becomes the next weak Somalia's President so long we have our own Autonomous Federal state and we can attend to our own State's affairs and also in the near future we can work toward fixing this failed system 4.5 of the Parliamentary MP allocation and make it more based on Federal State MP allocations.

Let all the landless langaab looma oyaan die out in Somalia insha'Allahi.

Heshiiska Baladweyne waxaa ku jiray in Hiiraan labo gobol ka noqoto Hirshabelle halka Jowhar sideeda ahaaneyso. intaas aaba nagu filan in aan xoog uga soo galno laba gobol ee Hirshabelle.

[OwQariib]

@Kees cuqdada aa Murursade u qabtid Allaha kaa daaweeyo, I have already told you if you have a problem with us start with yourselves. Firstly you f-king Hiraabs allowed the great Hawiye name to be tarnished and put us on the same number of kursi with Dir, RX and Daarood when Hawiye is the majority tribe in Somalia. Secondly you have cadaalad daro within your own clan, Saruur ayaa 3 kursi la siiyey just to one up the Abgaal when they live in one tuulo called Jowle cid ka hadashay maleh. Udeejeen live in one town called Jawiil and the rest are in Ethiopia but they have 3 kursi. Jiidle iyo Jajeele ayaa ka tiro badan nimankaan magac Hiraab ku qaraabanayo, you gave Duduble 4 seats when they have less numbers than Baadicadde waxaas oo dhan lama arkin qof ka hadashay but you have a problem with us, wallahi Xamar igu imaw I would spin your f-king jaw you son of a Ogaadeen bastard afkaaga ka leexi beesha dhaandhaanyahow baastarka ah

[Kees70]

@Kees cuqdada aa Murursade u qabtid Allaha kaa daaweeyo, I have already told you if you have a problem with us start with yourselves. Firstly you f-king Hiraabs allowed the great Hawiye name to be tarnished and put us on the same number of kursi with Dir, RX and Daarood when Hawiye is the majority tribe in Somalia. Secondly you have cadaalad daro within your own clan, Saruur ayaa 3 kursi la siiyey just to one up the Abgaal when they live in one tuulo called Jowle cid ka hadashay maleh. Udeejeen live in one town called Jawiil and the rest are in Ethiopia but they have 3 kursi. Jiidle iyo Jajeele ayaa ka tiro badan nimankaan magac Hiraab ku qaraabanayo, you gave Duduble 4 seats when they have less numbers than Baadicadde waxaas oo dhan lama arkin qof ka hadashay but you have a problem with us, wallahi Xamar igu imaw I would spin your f-king jaw you son of a Ogaadeen bastard afkaaga ka leexi beesha dhaandhaanyahow baastarka ah

what Cuqdad sxb, i didnt even mention Murursade.

I only stated Facts that 4.5 benefits langaabs looma oyaans over the majority clans, how in Allahs name can a clan who has a whole Gobol have less MPs than someone who shares an Tuulo or some who doesnt even have a n tuulo like Khadija diiriye and Fahad yasiin, both these 2 looma oyaans who dont have deegans in Somalia have more MP seats than me an Sacad who only has an mere 3MPs, this is an huge injustice.

The days of 4.5 Qabiil system is over, today it should be based on Cadaalad.


P,s Saruur have an Exclusive Tuulo Jowle and yet have 3mps while Murursade share Tuulo Ceelbuur with Duduble and get 7mps and 1 senators, this is an injustice because Saruur should have gotten more MPs than murursade who share tuulo with duduble.

[OwQariib]

@Sahal Xubinteena xoog baa usoo dhacsanay and there is nothing you can do about it. XL cried to Qanyare for an extra seat and grew some balls war Hiiraan keligaa ma lihid. Shalay HG aa kugu gumaaday and kicked you out of all the areas in the South did the ugly Iljeex take Ceelbuur or Dayniile from me in the Civil War? They couldn't even get the laangaab Duduble to help them when they failed they sent them to Baydhabo to bully the masaakiin RX. Kuraasta waxaa loo qeybiya meesha awoodaada iyo hubkaaga gaarsiisantahay shalay waxaa ku gabyi jirnay heeradiid hooyaday dhaloow Hiiraan ma ii hibeyn kartaa, wax aa Murursade ku riixi kartiin ma jirto go and cry yourself to sleep that we had the longest serving prime minister idinkuna musharax xataa masoo dhaafi kartid no wonder you hate Somalia and unity ileen kursiga Hawiye iyo madaxtinimo laguuma ogolo.

[Kees70]

@Sahal Xubinteena xoog baa usoo dhacsanay and there is nothing you can do about it. XL cried to Qanyare for an extra seat and grew some balls war Hiiraan keligaa ma lihid. Shalay HG aa kugu gumaaday and kicked you out of all the areas in the South did the ugly Iljeex take Ceelbuur or Dayniile from me in the Civil War? They couldn't even get the laangaab Duduble to help them when they failed they sent them to Baydhabo to bully the masaakiin RX. Kuraasta waxaa loo qeybiya meesha awoodaada iyo hubkaaga gaarsiisantahay shalay waxaa ku gabyi jirnay heeradiid hooyaday dhaloow Hiiraan ma ii hibeyn kartaa, wax aa Murursade ku riixi kartiin ma jirto go and cry yourself to sleep that we had the longest serving prime minister idinkuna musharax xataa masoo dhaafi kartid no wonder you hate Somalia and unity ileen kursiga Hawiye iyo madaxtinimo laguuma ogolo.

Sxb is-diji , we all know HGs conquered murursade in 15 minutes like Iraqs conquered Kuwaits in 15 minutes hence why you were called reer Kuwait, dayniile was captured within minutes kkkk

Sxb History is known by all, so stop the lie and have some dignity

[OwQariib]

@Kees ileen you are a true Ogaadeen doqonimadooda xata way kugu jirtaa, Saruur iyo Sacad waa siman yihiin waad ogoshahay laakin anagaa nasoo daye, waxaa la yiri maroodiga takarta saaran ma arkee kan kaloo ka fiirshaa



Ceelbuur District is almost the same size of some gobols In the country and you haven't stepped foot in there for 80 years now fulayahow afka biijada leh. I haven't even mentioned our numbers in Benadir and Lower Shabelle Afgooye Marka iyo Baraawe Buulo Mareer and the areas in between, how else do you explain why we have xubin in Hirshabelle and Koonfur Galbeed?

Sxb is-diji  , we all know HGs conquered murursade in 15 minutes like Iraqs conquered Kuwaits in 15 minutes hence why you were called reer Kuwait, dayniile was captured within minutes kkkk

Sxb History is known by all, so stop the lie and have some dignity

 

You attacked our positions in Wardhiigley and Hodan where we lived on the borders of the two shayaadiins called Abgaal and Habargidir. You stole money hidden in baasto packets and thought you broke bank nama bahdili kartaan our wars were longer than afar biloodka iska dhaaf 15 minutes, until the late 90s hal taako oo dhul ah laguu cafin mayn dakano murursade ma duugoowda waryaa.

I was in Somalia as a kid, Dayniile waaba meeshaan kugu qadinay don't make me bring sources of blocking your Afgooye routes starving you and inflating your market prices

[Kees70]

@Kees ileen you are a true Ogaadeen doqonimadooda xata way kugu jirtaa, Saruur iyo Sacad waa siman yihiin waad ogoshahay laakin anagaa nasoo daye, waxaa la yiri maroodiga takarta saaran ma arkee kan kaloo ka fiirshaa



Ceelbuur District is almost the same size of some gobols In the country and you haven't stepped foot in there for 80 years now fulayahow afka biijada leh. I haven't even mentioned our numbers in Benadir and Lower Shabelle Afgooye Marka iyo Baraawe Buulo Mareer and the areas in between, how else do you explain why we have xubin in Hirshabelle and Koonfur Galbeed?

Sxb is-diji  , we all know HGs conquered murursade in 15 minutes like Iraqs conquered Kuwaits in 15 minutes hence why you were called reer Kuwait, dayniile was captured within minutes kkkk

Sxb History is known by all, so stop the lie and have some dignity

 

You attacked our positions in Wardhiigley and Hodan where we lived on the borders of the two shayaadiins called Abgaal and Habargidir. You stole money hidden in baasto packets and thought you broke bank nama bahdili kartaan our wars were longer than afar biloodka iska dhaaf 15 minutes, until the late 90s hal taako oo dhul ah laguu cafin mayn dakano murursade ma duugoowda waryaa.

I was in Somalia as a kid, Dayniile waaba meeshaan kugu qadinay don't make me bring sources of blocking your Afgooye routes starving you and inflating your market prices

kkk war sxbow whats with the xanaag, did Sahals Thread piss you off, did it make you realize that 4.5 serves langaabs and not the Majority clans and that the day 4.5 system gets cancelled it means death to all the landless langaabs who will become looma oyaan overnights

[gobdoon]

Kuligeen Somali ban nahay cadalad iyo sinan iyo horusocod lkn qof ka hadlaya xiliga lagu jiro langaab iyo laandheer wa nasiib xumo weliba marku yahay qof qurbaha qaxooti nimo ugu nool

[OwQariib]

kkk war sxbow whats with the xanaag, did Sahals Thread piss you off, did it make you realize that 4.5 serves langaabs and not the Majority clans and that the day 4.5 system gets cancelled it means death to all the landless langaabs who will become looma oyaan overnights

4.5 was endorsed by a HG president and it serves them well since they plastered over your cracks, I will look forward to the day when you infight because Cayr and Sacad will steal seats from the other two. Murursade wax kama qaadi kartid, you even came after our Senator Dhegdheer who is wiil Barmuudo that fought HG bravely and they couldn't enter the area, the cowards shot his leg like the coward Xawaadle did to Cusmaan Caato, his juffo reer Dumaal are from Hobyo and Gaalkacyo haye dhulkaaga aan kugu haysanaa adigana Murursadaa u hanjabee