The process of uniting PL and somaliland begins

[theyuusuf143]

This political project is is Very deeply rooted than I thought. Do you know MJs are founding fathers of SNM. And Isaaq Are the founding fathers of SSDF. This may seem Very unbelievable buts it's real guys

When you hear SSDF you think about cabdliahi yuusuf or MJ. But isaaq led the organisation long before cabdilahil yuusuf. Mustafe xaaji nuur, isaaq , super power subeer awal was it's first chairman

When you see the SNM flag. You think it's isaaq thing but that tawxiid is added by maxamed xaaji aadan, Majeerten , CIISE MAXAMUUD . Now MJs should proudly wear their flag. I never thought this can be possible. Buts it's evolving into reality.

History solves the future problems. Somalis should get ready for the new Empire. City states like marka and kismayo will be enclaves under this empire. Because we are not leaving biimaal and harti for the hutus and ilko yar qadaadweyns.

[theyuusuf143]

Daawo arimahaas oo maqal iyo muuqala
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[original dervish]

I applaud your ability to think outside the box.
After decades of stagnation a new vision is needed.
However, at present the two regions are incompatible and are in a morass of political and financial corruption.

I would suggest Hargeisa becoming the political capital of Somalia.

There are many benefits to this.
1) The North will be in the driving seat instead of being at the mercy of Southern intrigue.
2) Halaane foreign political mafia will be defunct.
3) Parliament will be able to function properly.
4)All ngos will be properly regulated in Hargeisa.
5)Direct foreign investment will skyrocket .


Mogadishu is synonymous with terrorism, genocide, lawlessness etc.......Hargeisa is the polar opposite.

I doubt most sl politicians will ever support this as like everywhere else politicians are self serving.

[theyuusuf143]

Dhulbante/warsangeli HY/HJ from sanaag should spearhead this project . When ceerigaabo becomes the capital of our new nation, you will be in the centre of power instead the periphery. You regions will no longer be disputed or neglected because of insecurity This vision is so beautiful in any way you look at it. Ceerigaabo Will be the future capital of all Somali race . Not just capital but the whole sanaag is sacred, it's where we are all came from . Kulli Shay yarjucu ilaa aslihii .

[original dervish]

Admirable sentiments for sure.
However, I'd like to keep Ceerigabo as the sleepy rural backwater where nothing much ever happens and the people live peacefully.

If your desire is to uplift the Somali people then the single biggest contribution would be to relocated the capital to Hargeisa. The effects would be immediate and would reverberate across the region.

With all due respect.....uniting two losers still leaves you with losers.

[theyuusuf143]

Admirable sentiments for sure.
However, I'd like to keep Ceerigabo as the sleepy rural backwater where nothing much ever happens and the people live peacefully.

If your desire is to uplift the Somali people then the single biggest contribution would be to relocated the capital to Hargeisa. The effects would be immediate and would reverberate across the region.

With all due respect.....uniting two losers still leaves you with losers.

Hargeisa is not even fit for somaliland capital forget about something bigger , it became like Lagos of Nigeria. Its already too expensive to develop. Every inch of it's land is already occupied by unproductive ignorant people. Erigavo is the future , its cheap and easy to develop into modern capital . Sanaag is a place that every one Belongs to even the deep South qadaadweyns are originaly from sanaag.

[mahoka]

Admirable sentiments for sure.
However, I'd like to keep Ceerigabo as the sleepy rural backwater where nothing much ever happens and the people live peacefully.

If your desire is to uplift the Somali people then the single biggest contribution would be to relocated the capital to Hargeisa. The effects would be immediate and would reverberate across the region.

With all due respect.....uniting two losers still leaves you with losers.

This I believe will be the future settlement. We must take advantage of the new Cold War and act in the interest of the region, integrated horn that leans on Eurasian block is the vision

[mahoka]

Dhulbante/warsangeli HY/HJ from sanaag should spearhead this project . When ceerigaabo becomes the capital of our new nation, you will be in the centre of power instead the periphery. You regions will no longer be disputed or neglected because of insecurity This vision is so beautiful in any way you look at it. Ceerigaabo Will be the future capital of all Somali race . Not just capital but the whole sanaag is sacred, it's where we are all came from . Kulli Shay yarjucu ilaa aslihii .

Hj,dhulo,warsangeli are support clans not main clans

Hy has a steak in hargeisa and can duke it out with sm.

Ceerigabo should demand for more development spending though, that’s for sure

[Phinks]

The only problem is this sxb; Majeerteen will never subject themselves to another clan, maybe as equal partners, but even that's a stretch. Just look how arrogant we were against MOD, we told all of Darood to shove it where the sun don't shine, and to this day they blame us for the downfall of everything.

Dhulos are a better choice for landers, they can be likened to willful prostitutes useful for anyones bidding, why do you think Khatumo State was never realised? Because they lack vision & unity, plus they are cowards, they never once went to battle for the prospect of Khatumo State. At least Puntland/Somaliland FOUGHT for their States, Dhulos never lead, they are a clan to be led by other clans whether MJ, OG, MX, HY etc. And never forget Idoor, it was not Majeerteen but these Dhulos who massacred your kind under the Kacaan/MOD alliance, yet they were the first to surrender to you, shows you their cowardly nature and who they really are.

[BigBreak]

Somaliland reuniting with Somalia is as unacceptable as Somaliland uniting with Ethiopia. Therefore Plan A remains getting international recognition of Somaliland independence and the only alternative option for Somaliland is to unite with our third neighbour Djibouti in a loose two-state federation. IOG or another Djiboutian can be the president of this federation and Somaliland gets both the premiership and the capital city. Cabinet and legislature must be split 50/50

[Phinks]

We can argue all we want, but if SL wants a change, you must declare war on Mogadishu and Hawiye, anything else is just a waste of time. Independence won't happen, because every movement in Africa will use it as a precedent (if Somalis with same religion, languages and ethnicity can't get along, then no one can), hence why I believe these Cadaans will never grant you independence, it's too dangerous.

A confederate is what we should be all pushing for, it's clear to anyone here that Hawiye are the only ones who want the status-quo to remain forever.

[AmericanShoeStores]

The only problem is this sxb; Majeerteen will never subject themselves to another clan, maybe as equal partners, but even that's a stretch. Just look how arrogant we were against MOD, we told all of Darood to shove it where the sun don't shine, and to this day they blame us for the downfall of everything.

Dhulos are a better choice for landers, they can be likened to willful prostitutes useful for anyones bidding, why do you think Khatumo State was never realised? Because they lack vision & unity, plus they are cowards, they never once went to battle for the prospect of Khatumo State. At least Puntland/Somaliland FOUGHT for their States, Dhulos never lead, they are a clan to be led by other clans whether MJ, OG, MX, HY etc. And never forget Idoor, it was not Majeerteen but these Dhulos who massacred your kind under the Kacaan/MOD alliance, yet they were the first to surrender to you, shows you their cowardly nature and who they really are.

WOOOOOOOOOOW

EXPLAIN THIS U BIG BOOTY COWARD

[theyuusuf143]

@Phinks


I am thinking about the future, you are thinking about the past. Let's debate that in other topic. Nothing is like black and white. Politics is too complicated for some people, because it's the art of possibilities , and most people don't explore possibilities. They stick to what they are familiar with.

[theyuusuf143]

Somaliland reuniting with Somalia is as unacceptable as Somaliland uniting with Ethiopia. Therefore Plan A remains getting international recognition of Somaliland independence and the only alternative option for Somaliland is to unite with our third neighbour Djibouti in a loose two-state federation. IOG or another Djiboutian can be the president of this federation and Somaliland gets both the premiership and the capital city. Cabinet and legislature must be split 50/50

Djibouti uniting with somaliland is not bad either but it's harder than you think. It's legally, technically and economically complicated.

But there is no big obstacles facing puntland somaliland unity. In fact it Will gain the whole international support. And most somalis can not do anything about it even if they oppose.

[Gubbet]

Good luck, because we have started talking informally with the Ethiopians about taking Western Galmudug and Greater Gedo (Dollow to Kismaayo) and joining Ethiopia.

In the end, we were always destined to go back to Mother Ethiopia and take back our rightful seat facing down the Somali plains reflected from the Throne of Solomon.

-They made us the border for a reason, dividing us in half
- Ethiopia invaded Balanbale to Goldogob for a reason toying planting her flag over us
- Ethiopia invade and occupied Gedo for a reason all throughout the 90's
-Even Caabudwaaq randomly ending up on the Ethiopian side of the border without Ethiopian trying to do anything and recognizing it as Somalia was fate simply speaking

The deliberations have two big equities for both Ethiopia and us.

1. She finally gets her sea access through the big, beautiful port of Kismaayo
2. Kismaayo to Caabudwaaq will be connected in a regional corridor above Hiiraan and Bakool...to form one contiguous border zone Ethiopia will have all assurance will be perfectly impenetrable from Somalia as Marehan territory.



And the administrative executive of our kilil will have the title of Goita.

I wouldn't wish Somalia on my worst enemy!
So good bye and Good luck walaal!