I don’t think SAHAL is a sane person
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I don’t think SAHAL is a sane person
This guy is a huge conspiracy theorist and I believe he’s literally just trolling. He keeps saying this and that will happen and then moves the goal post when it doesn’t happen. He said Laftagreen and madobe will be ousted, then he said there will be no extensions for FMS, then he said will let them finish their term?? This is just a sample of the ridiculous things he said. He HUGLY OVERESTIMATES HAG and convinced himself HSM is some kind of political genius. SUBXANAALAH!
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Re: I don’t think SAHAL is a sane person
Hag this hag that …he is not even Hag.


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Inshallah kheir.
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There's some thing called developments. The government's policy was to complete their terms and now it has agreed to extend for them inline with Hassan Sheikh's extension. However, No extension for Guudlawe and QoorQoor got only 6 months. it's laftagareen and Madoobe who got two years and Deni 1 year. i don't give a fuck since im from Hirshabelle and we can save money and time for abaaraha and Al Shabaab instead of wasting them on KG and JL. the point is no more elections under Madoobe and laftagareen. Xamsa will replace Madoobe (reer hirsi deal) Madoobe moved to the UAE people think he goes there for caafimaad but he moved his family there he bought a house.
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Re: I don’t think SAHAL is a sane person
Sahal is the greatest analyst on this website he has done great works and he catogarised everything perfectly.
All that he predicted came true. That failmaajo will Leave and. It getting a second term. That deni will not win. The whole thing with saadiq John all of that he predicted currently.
All that he predicted came true. That failmaajo will Leave and. It getting a second term. That deni will not win. The whole thing with saadiq John all of that he predicted currently.
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Re: I don’t think SAHAL is a sane person
My friend you need to face the reality. HSM can’t even kick out Amisom and have Somali police and military protect and your talking about him removing FMS. One: Madobe will leave when Kenya decides NOT anyone in Somalia if they do, they’ll decide who replaces him simple as that. Two: Laftagreen is highly popular with Raxawayne and is the only FMS liked by his people and now he’s connected with Ethiopia and putland for support so the bunker government can’t do shit. Two: Only alshaydaan will be defeated by an actual government and not by tribes. This whole war is fake and is a PR for donors to give Cuslow more money. ONLY SERIOUS clan is xadwadle and I’m afraid that’s not enough progress. 3: Finally I thought extensions were xaraam under farmaajo? But HAG is ok with extension now for a president who still has 3.5 years left? Anyways something is not adding up and as Somalis say “ Beenta Runta kadambeysa”. The truth will always come out and it doesn’t support anyone. But for the love of ALLAHSWT STOP MOVING THE GOALPOST.sahal80 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:26 am There's some thing called developments. The government's policy was to complete their terms and now it has agreed to extend for them inline with Hassan Sheikh's extension. However, No extension for Guudlawe and QoorQoor got only 6 months. it's laftagareen and Madoobe who got two years and Deni 1 year. i don't give a fuck since im from Hirshabelle and we can save money and time for abaaraha and Al Shabaab instead of wasting them on KG and JL. the point is no more elections under Madoobe and laftagareen. Xamsa will replace Madoobe (reer hirsi deal) Madoobe moved to the UAE people think he goes there for caafimaad but he moved his family there he bought a house.
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Thank you Gacanyare.Khalid Ali wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:08 am Sahal is the greatest analyst on this website he has done great works and he catogarised everything perfectly.
All that he predicted came true. That failmaajo will Leave and. It getting a second term. That deni will not win. The whole thing with saadiq John all of that he predicted currently.
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"The difference between De Jure and De Facto is that De jure refers to something that exists as a result of law, whereas de facto refers to something that exists as a result of fact other than law"Isseayaanle wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:17 amMy friend you need to face the reality. HSM can’t even kick out Amisom and have Somali police and military protect and your talking about him removing FMS. One: Madobe will leave when Kenya decides NOT anyone in Somalia if they do, they’ll decide who replaces him simple as that. Two: Laftagreen is highly popular with Raxawayne and is the only FMS liked by his people and now he’s connected with Ethiopia and putland for support so the bunker government can’t do shit. Two: Only alshaydaan will be defeated by an actual government and not by tribes. This whole war is fake and is a PR for donors to give Cuslow more money. ONLY SERIOUS clan is xadwadle and I’m afraid that’s not enough progress. 3: Finally I thought extensions were xaraam under farmaajo? But HAG is ok with extension now for a president who still has 3.5 years left? Anyways something is not adding up and as Somalis say “ Beenta Runta kadambeysa”. The truth will always come out and it doesn’t support anyone. But for the love of ALLAHSWT STOP MOVING THE GOALPOST.sahal80 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:26 am There's some thing called developments. The government's policy was to complete their terms and now it has agreed to extend for them inline with Hassan Sheikh's extension. However, No extension for Guudlawe and QoorQoor got only 6 months. it's laftagareen and Madoobe who got two years and Deni 1 year. i don't give a fuck since im from Hirshabelle and we can save money and time for abaaraha and Al Shabaab instead of wasting them on KG and JL. the point is no more elections under Madoobe and laftagareen. Xamsa will replace Madoobe (reer hirsi deal) Madoobe moved to the UAE people think he goes there for caafimaad but he moved his family there he bought a house.
for example SL is de facto and SFG is de jure.
Guudlawe has no power in Hiiraan but he enjoys the recognition of the federal government. Any southern state needs recognition from the federal government.
Rooble supported Madoobe because he was responsible for the elections so he succeeded in transferring Gedo elections to Ceelwaaq. Farmaajo's biggest mistake was recognizing Ahmed Madoobe otherwise he wouldn't have become president today but because of the boycott of PL and its solidarity with JL as well as the approaching election date, he was forced by the IC to recognize him. the timing dictated it and after Madoobe got recognition he and Deni had another plan wich is to prolong the Khilaaf until the election day that why you have Ceelwaaq mps today.
Hassan Sh has learned alot from Farmaajo's mistakes and the first is relaying on Beesha caalamka and Amisom he wants to liberate the land first. Xamar gobolada dhexe
Xamar-baydhaba
Xamar-Baraawe
so until then laftagareen can stay but if he uses now the recognition card without controlling KG first he will be like Farmaajo who waged war against madoobe without even controlling Buaale the constitutional capital of JL. he should have started this job in 2017 and by 2019 he could have selected his guy in Buaale then beesha caalamka would have supported this president. Kismaayo and Kenya would have been out of the equation.
Kenyan OG politicians specially Adan Ducaale the new Kenyan Defence minister are not in good terms with Madoobe over the OG federal mps, Hassan Sheikh appointing OG PM, Suggesting OG president for JL, Being in Good terms with Kenya all this can facilitate his agenda in Kismaayo. Madoobe will be paid millions to tanaazul for Xamza from same reer but Laftagareen will be blocked from running again even in Baydhabo. Roobow has already his own army in bay and bakool Govt pays KG mushaar no port.
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Sahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using and abusing you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
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kkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbMrSinister wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:06 pm Sahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
HAG has triple structure: HG Galmudug, Hawadle Hirshabelle and Abgaal Banaadir. Current situation was created by Farmaajo and it has backfired him and his clan and has opened Pandora’s box on them that why you have two OGs in a "shir qaran" and now 3 abgaal not even Mudulood!
Hassan Sheikh and Abgaal are taking advantage of the situation created by Farmaajo by letting one Daarood kablalah suclan represent the whole clan the same thing Farmaajo did to the non Hawiye Hiraab. Hassan Sheikh doesn't want to correct what Farmaajo did for his clan he wants to kill two birds with one stone(let Abgaals finish their term and then bring back hawadle before the federal elections)
im friend with alot of Hawadle siyaasiyiin who meet him and that's what he tell them also i have non Hawadle UPD sources who tell me the same
as for Al Shabaab we did it for ourselves. Govt now is relaying on Hiiraan to open other fronts like Ceelbuur and maybe waceysle side and using the Highway no one can mess with important clan like us. we r the only Hawiye clan who control all their Xuduud without being in a power position who can say to us no? kkk
this map shows who r the real power of Hirshabelle let us see if Hassan Sheikh can say no to them
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Re: I don’t think SAHAL is a sane person
Can’t say it better. Since the establishment of the USC till now, H.G and Abgaal have used xawadle specially abgaal to achieve their political goals and convinced them other Somali clans are big bad wolf. Also, I believe what’s driving Sahal crazy is farmaajo giving the Prez of Hiirshable to Abgal and wants that back as if that will even make a difference. He things if xawadle are back to prez, things will be glorious or something and he keeps making so many conspiracy theories to support that. Finally, xawadle are stuck with the alshaydaan and will feel the consequences of it because HAG will not help them specially abgal. There litterly chilling in shabelada in the beach taking pictures.MrSinister wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:06 pm Sahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using and abusing you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
FINALLY NOTICE HOW CONTROLLING XAMAR WITH AMISOM IS NEVER INCLUDED IN HAG POLICIES OR GOALS. LAST TIME XAMAR WAS CONTROLLED WITH GOVERNMENT WAS MAAKIMINTA AND BARRE.
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Sahal don’t be sensitive sxb. You make your comments about PL or darood, it doesn’t bother me. I’m telling you how I see things. Last year, you said there would be a change in capital from Jowhar to Beledweyn, that didn’t happen. Let’s debate and discuss the current reality not what may or may not happen or fantasy about benadir state.sahal80 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:54 pmkkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbMrSinister wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:06 pm Sahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
HAG has triple structure: HG Galmudug, Hawadle Hirshabelle and Abgaal Banaadir. Current situation was created by Farmaajo and it has backfired him and his clan and has opened Pandora’s box on them that why you have two OGs in a "shir qaran" and now 3 abgaal not even Mudulood!
Hassan Sheikh and Abgaal are taking advantage of the situation created by Farmaajo by letting one Daarood kablalah suclan represent the whole clan the same thing Farmaajo did to the non Hawiye Hiraab. Hassan Sheikh doesn't want to correct what Farmaajo did for his clan he wants to kill two birds with one stone(let Abgaals finish their term and then bring back hawadle before the federal elections)
im friend with alot of Hawadle siyaasiyiin who meet him and that's what he tell them also i have non Hawadle UPD sources who tell me the same
as for Al Shabaab we did it for ourselves. Govt now is relaying on Hiiraan to open other fronts like Ceelbuur and maybe waceysle side and using the Highway no one can mess with important clan like us. we r the only Hawiye clan who control all their Xuduud without being in a power position who can say to us no? kkk
this map shows who r the real power of Hirshabelle let us see if Hassan Sheikh can say no to them
No one will give you anything in Somalia, your assuming abgal have one thought process, but the reality is within their own, they probably have different thought process and interests. Sh sharif doesn’t have the same exact interests as Hassan shiekh etc. same with their subclans.
Your strategy seems to be to give more things to a bully who has taken what your perceive is yours by right. Why would that bully give you anything when you give so easily and listen to their sweet words?
A smarter strategy is to keep your options open and judge by action not words.
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MrSinister wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:55 pmSahal don’t be sensitive sxb. You make your comments about PL or darood, it doesn’t bother me. I’m telling you how I see things. Last year, you said there would be a change in capital from Jowhar to Beledweyn, that didn’t happen. Let’s debate and discuss the current reality not what may or may not happen or fantasy about benadir state.sahal80 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:54 pmkkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbMrSinister wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:06 pm Sahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
HAG has triple structure: HG Galmudug, Hawadle Hirshabelle and Abgaal Banaadir. Current situation was created by Farmaajo and it has backfired him and his clan and has opened Pandora’s box on them that why you have two OGs in a "shir qaran" and now 3 abgaal not even Mudulood!
Hassan Sheikh and Abgaal are taking advantage of the situation created by Farmaajo by letting one Daarood kablalah suclan represent the whole clan the same thing Farmaajo did to the non Hawiye Hiraab. Hassan Sheikh doesn't want to correct what Farmaajo did for his clan he wants to kill two birds with one stone(let Abgaals finish their term and then bring back hawadle before the federal elections)
im friend with alot of Hawadle siyaasiyiin who meet him and that's what he tell them also i have non Hawadle UPD sources who tell me the same
as for Al Shabaab we did it for ourselves. Govt now is relaying on Hiiraan to open other fronts like Ceelbuur and maybe waceysle side and using the Highway no one can mess with important clan like us. we r the only Hawiye clan who control all their Xuduud without being in a power position who can say to us no? kkk
this map shows who r the real power of Hirshabelle let us see if Hassan Sheikh can say no to them
No one will give you anything in Somalia, your assuming abgal have one thought process, but the reality is within their own, they probably have different thought process and interests. Sh sharif doesn’t have the same exact interests as Hassan shiekh etc. same with their subclans.
Your strategy seems to be to give more things to a bully who has taken what your perceive is yours by right. Why would that bully give you anything when you give so easily and listen to their sweet words?
A smarter strategy is to keep your options open and judge by action not words.
Don’t bother bro. Don’t even explain nothing:
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not accurate. my position was nothing will work uncless the Gentleman's agreement is restored. in the election days, our Dhaqan like the late Nabadon Elmi Hagar who was against Guudlawe more than Al shabaab have changed after listening carefully to our siyaasiyiin. we had to choose between our mps to be picked in Jowhar like Ceelwaaq or Baladweyne and Rooble was supporting Jowhar just so he can move the mx ones to Kismaayo not just bc he was against Farmaajo but for the sake of his friend Abdullahi Arab. Kismaayo ahd Jowhar did not work like Ceelwaaq there was matabaan suggestion so based on this our dhaqan reached smart position that agrees to reach heshiis with Guudlawe after he arrives immediately without this they couldn't force him on us we can take lamagalaay easily even with their ciyaal bac ka sii you heard before badbaado hiiraan officers but for the sake of having free mps we ignored him we said hadii wax socon waayaan doorashada kadib ayaan markale diidi waa isku raacney. we reached Good decision waxaan ka dhex faaideysanay Farmaajo iyo rooble. Fahad waa fasaxney laakin waxeena dib aan u dhiganay guudlaawaba xabsi aan u taxaabney!MrSinister wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:55 pmSahal don’t be sensitive sxb. You make your comments about PL or darood, it doesn’t bother me. I’m telling you how I see things. Last year, you said there would be a change in capital from Jowhar to Beledweyn, that didn’t happen. Let’s debate and discuss the current reality not what may or may not happen or fantasy about benadir state.sahal80 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:54 pmkkk Don't start your HG vs Abgaal game with me sxbMrSinister wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:06 pm Sahal makes sense when he discusses issues of federalism. But when he starts talking about HAG nonsense, he looses grip on reality. My observation on xawadle based on Sahal is they are like battered woman who even if you tell her the reality that abgal are manipulating and using you, she will never listen and will go back to her abuser. Harti abgal will never give up hiirshabeele, instead they will continue to use hawadle and other hawiye. They even sent them to go fight against al shabab while abgal are chilling in their villages.
Occasionally Sahal sees the reality of the game abgal are playing against him, but he always goes back to being wilfully blind from reality and pretend darod and other Somalis are his enemies.
HAG has triple structure: HG Galmudug, Hawadle Hirshabelle and Abgaal Banaadir. Current situation was created by Farmaajo and it has backfired him and his clan and has opened Pandora’s box on them that why you have two OGs in a "shir qaran" and now 3 abgaal not even Mudulood!
Hassan Sheikh and Abgaal are taking advantage of the situation created by Farmaajo by letting one Daarood kablalah suclan represent the whole clan the same thing Farmaajo did to the non Hawiye Hiraab. Hassan Sheikh doesn't want to correct what Farmaajo did for his clan he wants to kill two birds with one stone(let Abgaals finish their term and then bring back hawadle before the federal elections)
im friend with alot of Hawadle siyaasiyiin who meet him and that's what he tell them also i have non Hawadle UPD sources who tell me the same
as for Al Shabaab we did it for ourselves. Govt now is relaying on Hiiraan to open other fronts like Ceelbuur and maybe waceysle side and using the Highway no one can mess with important clan like us. we r the only Hawiye clan who control all their Xuduud without being in a power position who can say to us no? kkk
this map shows who r the real power of Hirshabelle let us see if Hassan Sheikh can say no to them
No one will give you anything in Somalia, your assuming abgal have one thought process, but the reality is within their own, they probably have different thought process and interests. Sh sharif doesn’t have the same exact interests as Hassan shiekh etc. same with their subclans.
Your strategy seems to be to give more things to a bully who has taken what your perceive is yours by right. Why would that bully give you anything when you give so easily and listen to their sweet words?
A smarter strategy is to keep your options open and judge by action not words.
Guudlawe markuu yimid wuxuu dhaqanka la galay heshiis idaacadaha laga aqriay oo dabageed aqriyay oo ah wixii shaley abgaal heestey in XL lagu wareejiyo sida caasimada wasiirka gudaha taliya ciidanka hada waa heesanaa intaan caasimada aheen. Guudlawe Baladweyne waa ka baqaa waliba madaxtooyada waxaan laga dhasi laheen ceeljaale oo ah meesha xuud qabsado oo buuraha y dhaw waa ka baqay wuxuu ku dhagey buuloburde waa diidnay sababta markaas xor ma aheen Xamar ayuu iska fariisan lahaa. Hassan Sh markuu yimid Strategydii waa badalntay waxaa bilaabmay madaxweynaha ka yar ma rabno waxaa bilaabmay ololo xoogan idaacadihii lacag la siiyo shirar la qabto. habeenkii Shirka dhici lahaa ayaa Hassan Sh na soo wacay waa la baajiyay. wuxuu dhahay nimanyahow sidii horaan ku soo celinaynaa ee ii suga Al shabaab kadib ninkii ololaha wadaynay ka taliye uu ka dhigtey. Guudlawe waa magac u yaal waxaa meesha ka baxay kuwii "xaqsoor' isku magacaabey ee Fahad hirshabelle ka saneeyay. Sanbaloolshe iyo minister abdirizaq ayaa toos hiiraan uga masuul ah oo Jeyte ka shaqeeya awoodii dabageed ee hiiraan meesha waa ka baxdey asagaa gacmo ku gabad ah marka hada caasimadii anagaaba rabin xataa hadii Baladweyne laga dhigayo. meel ku qoro sanad iyo bar kadib waxaa bilaabanaya ololaha only musharixiinta hawadle; Baarlamaanka ayaa la sii diyaarinayaa oo xl iyo abgaal loogu dari xubno cusub oo ah min 9.
Shirkii Hassan Sh joojiyay
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