Baahane was surly not the LION HAG claimed

[Isseayaanle]

What I find interesting was that Baahane worked with farmaajo and the three FMs that were allied with farmaajo for the first 6months before farmaajo real term expired. But as soon as farmaajo term expired, Rooble started acting up and with the help of Xalane, Deni, Madobe and HAG. But before that he was carrying his tusbax acting all maskeen. Even Xataa the hawiye mucaarad were critical and calling him names.

Anyways, Baahane is the only PM to come on live tv and calaac to his clan even as far as crying live on air saying so and so will kill me. If roble had any balls, he would oppose farmaajo in the first months before his mandate expired. He didn’t do that because he knew he would be replaced. But he waited until his term expired that way him and the mucaarad could say both farmaajo and rooble term expired. Just like how they said the parliament couldn’t do extension for Farmaajo because their authority expired.

Finally, all those people who were allied with farmaajo most did have the same ideology and little were there for their benefit such as the waqoyi guy who was the media. It’s crazy how people interpret reality and evidence even with technology. Yet you have HAG beating their chest thinking Baahane was a lion. With mainly putland, Madobe, HAG, Xalane Baahane would’ve been kicked out. But one thing I gotta give him credit where it’s due us is he acted all masken lowering gaze, soft tone and pretending to work with Qorqor and Laftagreen.

[MrSinister]

Farmajo choosing Baahane as a PM will go down as the worst own goal in Somali political history. Farmajo was afraid of PL and Deni so much, he forgot the hutus were plotting for his seat.

[Murax]

Farmajo choosing Baahane as a PM will go down as the worst own goal in Somali political history. Farmajo was afraid of PL and Deni so much, he forgot the hutus were plotting for his seat.

Agree it was a major L on Farmaajo’s part appointing him. But it was also a own goal on Kheyre’s part. He went from a powerful PM, and lost everything. Even the same Madasha HAG accepted him, but never truly trusted him.

[Nomand]

Farmajo choosing Baahane as a PM will go down as the worst own goal in Somali political history. Farmajo was afraid of PL and Deni so much, he forgot the hutus were plotting for his seat.

Let's be honest, farmaajo got betrayed because somalis are hunguri. Even mahdi guleed betrayed farmaajo because mahdi guleed wanted money.

Farmaajo a guy who is anti corruption will not be popular with somali leadership. Deni under farmaajo got more money for puntland then under culusow. However the farmaajo admin where forcing deni to spend the money where it was allocated to. Culusow government does not care.

If farmaajo was corrupt and was giving money around as culusow is doing. People like mahdi guleed and baahane would not have betrayed him.

So it doesn't matter who you bring. Somalis majority of them love embezzlement and stealing government money whether in somalia or in the west.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Farmajo choosing Baahane as a PM will go down as the worst own goal in Somali political history. Farmajo was afraid of PL and Deni so much, he forgot the hutus were plotting for his seat.

Let's be honest, farmaajo got betrayed because somalis are hunguri. Even mahdi guleed betrayed farmaajo because mahdi guleed wanted money.

Farmaajo a guy who is anti corruption will not be popular with somali leadership. Deni under farmaajo got more money for puntland then under culusow. However the farmaajo admin where forcing deni to spend the money where it was allocated to. Culusow government does not care.

If farmaajo was corrupt and was giving money around as culusow is doing. People like mahdi guleed and baahane would not have betrayed him.

So it doesn't matter who you bring. Somalis majority of them love embezzlement and stealing government money whether in somalia or in the west.

That’s the point of being anti corrupt. It exposes the Somali leadership as weak and honest. It’s a long strategy. The Somali leadership are all corrupt while their people starve

[Isseayaanle]

Farmajo choosing Baahane as a PM will go down as the worst own goal in Somali political history. Farmajo was afraid of PL and Deni so much, he forgot the hutus were plotting for his seat.

I agree that was the biggest L but, Baahane was a servant before his actual term expired. If did act like he did before term expired farmaajo would immediately replaced him.

[Isseayaanle]

Farmajo choosing Baahane as a PM will go down as the worst own goal in Somali political history. Farmajo was afraid of PL and Deni so much, he forgot the hutus were plotting for his seat.

Let's be honest, farmaajo got betrayed because somalis are hunguri. Even mahdi guleed betrayed farmaajo because mahdi guleed wanted money.

Farmaajo a guy who is anti corruption will not be popular with somali leadership. Deni under farmaajo got more money for puntland then under culusow. However the farmaajo admin where forcing deni to spend the money where it was allocated to. Culusow government does not care.

If farmaajo was corrupt and was giving money around as culusow is doing. People like mahdi guleed and baahane would not have betrayed him.

So it doesn't matter who you bring. Somalis majority of them love embezzlement and stealing government money whether in somalia or in the west.

Very excellent point! This is the second TRUE main reason I believe farmaajo lost he was too stingy with the money and even go as far as telling FMS how to use their money. But farmaajo main reason for losing was he was pissing of foriegn nations like Kenya, Arabs and also donors. But if he became a yes men to them we all know things would’ve been different. FARMAAJO WAS SIMPLY A HUGE THREAT TO THE STATUS QUO.

[original dervish]

Then he should have played his cards right.
Somalis will never be good poker players because they always overplay their hands.

[noer]

roble shouldna turned on farmajo. pm supposed to be under president. that was farmajo's bad. but. that wasn't farmajo real mistake

farmajo biggest mistake. trynna compromise in the lead up to the ex italian colony's federal elections. giving concessions to governor deni n madobe. all this was before roble. farmajo coulda rapped it all. hirshabele, galmudug, n southwest choosing their MPs. remove ssc seats from magertenland unless governor deni joins federal elections. dolbahanta n wasakhgali in hamar. like the idoor delegates who get paid to pretend to be dir. finally. madobe. a reverse garbahatey steal. instead of gedo MPs getting chosen in kenya, kismayo seats chosen by farmajo allies farmajo biggest mistake his attempts at pleasing the stealth secessionists. n their kenyan masters

[sahal80]

Rooble was big Farmaajo and Kheyre Mucaarad in Nairobi before his appointment and had old ties with Damjadeed but they ignored him after they came to power in 2012 because he refused to pay $2,000 to fund Hassan Sheikh's campaign. every member paid it except him he said Hassan Sh is not gonna make it. in 2017 he reunited with Abdikareem Guuleed faction. Guuled wanted to replace Hassan Sheikh some thing now Bukhari is doing. Guuleed supported Sharif Sakiin who promised him to maie him the pm after Hassan Sheikh refused to step down from Damjadeed leadership.

Guuleed paid money to QoorQoor and Sheikhaal members(Rooble Abtiyaal)who were so close to Fahad and Farmaajo to convince them to pick him over the other candidates. Guuleed plan was using Rooble for the elections so the two had secret agenda that was not included the other MM. Farmajo waited for 50 days only to appoint a former member of Damjadeed!

i wrote this thread just 10 days after his appointment and revealed his Damjadiud connections and that he is abit HAGist but he was a big HAGist also the MM im talking about is Hassan Sh and AAW not Guuleed! when Rooble appointed Abdullahi Arab it was clear that he was intending inqilaab. Carab is a big Irirsit Dam jadeed very dangerous man xataa anaga reer Hiiraan qatar uu na galin gaarey he suggested to Rooble to hold Baladweyne elections in Matabaan so he can do the Garbahareey ones in Ceelwaq after Kismaayo-Jowhar scenario did not work for Rooble(one deegaan doorasho) HAG said to him no we don't want HG vs hawadle Khilaf after this Hawadle vs Abgaal khilaaf creared by Farmaajo bc it will divide us in the elections also Guudlawe was in cahoots with MM so Rooble backed him against Dabageed who was loyal to F&F him and SEIT and when Guudlawe removed the head of SEIT Rooble issued a supporting Statement. this opened the door for our Mucaarad mps that is why they r ok with Guudlaawe now to finish his term

s they let Baladweyne go and kept silent about Gedo until they finished in all the second capitals

Roobles Damjadeed past
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6#p4986588


when i broke the news of their khilaaf
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=402863


Rooble with Damjadeed. Abdullahi Arab between Hassan Sh and Farah Abdulqadir. he is getting Qandaraas soon for his role in Roobe inQilaab.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 6337418639

[OwQariib]

Farmaajo probably thought his appointment would split the opposition but you can never bet on Somali wavering loyalty, that is only to their clan or large sums of money.

[BigBreak]

Farmaajo probably thought his appointment would split the opposition but you can never bet on Somali wavering loyalty, that is only to their clan or large sums of money.

Why did Kheyre split with Farmajo? Both suffered in the end

[Isseayaanle]

Rooble was big Farmaajo and Kheyre Mucaarad in Nairobi before his appointment and had old ties with Damjadeed but they ignored him after they came to power in 2012 because he refused to pay $2,000 to fund Hassan Sheikh's campaign. every member paid it except him he said Hassan Sh is not gonna make it. in 2017 he reunited with Abdikareem Guuleed faction. Guuled wanted to replace Hassan Sheikh some thing now Bukhari is doing. Guuleed supported Sharif Sakiin who promised him to maie him the pm after Hassan Sheikh refused to step down from Damjadeed leadership.

Guuleed paid money to QoorQoor and Sheikhaal members(Rooble Abtiyaal)who were so close to Fahad and Farmaajo to convince them to pick him over the other candidates. Guuleed plan was using Rooble for the elections so the two had secret agenda that was not included the other MM. Farmajo waited for 50 days only to appoint a former member of Damjadeed!

i wrote this thread just 10 days after his appointment and revealed his Damjadiud connections and that he is abit HAGist but he was a big HAGist also the MM im talking about is Hassan Sh and AAW not Guuleed! when Rooble appointed Abdullahi Arab it was clear that he was intending inqilaab. Carab is a big Irirsit Dam jadeed very dangerous man xataa anaga reer Hiiraan qatar uu na galin gaarey he suggested to Rooble to hold Baladweyne elections in Matabaan so he can do the Garbahareey ones in Ceelwaq after Kismaayo-Jowhar scenario did not work for Rooble(one deegaan doorasho) HAG said to him no we don't want HG vs hawadle Khilaf after this Hawadle vs Abgaal khilaaf creared by Farmaajo bc it will divide us in the elections also Guudlawe was in cahoots with MM so Rooble backed him against Dabageed who was loyal to F&F him and SEIT and when Guudlawe removed the head of SEIT Rooble issued a supporting Statement. this opened the door for our Mucaarad mps that is why they r ok with Guudlaawe now to finish his term

s they let Baladweyne go and kept silent about Gedo until they finished in all the second capitals

Roobles Damjadeed past
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6#p4986588


when i broke the news of their khilaaf
https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=402863


Rooble with Damjadeed. Abdullahi Arab between Hassan Sh and Farah Abdulqadir. he is getting Qandaraas soon for his role in Roobe inQilaab.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 6337418639

I don’t know what Baahane was before farmaajo appointed him but, he atleast gets credit for acting like farmaajo pm and playing his part before farmaajo term ended. It was when the term ended, that we got to see the real rooble. He was also OK with the extension because that would’ve meant he got extension as well but, With the Madasha in his circle, they convinced him of many things.

[mahoka]

Problem for both khayre and farmaajo in the end was the same- they came from langaab tribes which didn’t have big muscles for influence. Hutu voted for farmaajo for the simple reason he was not mj, same reason hawiye installed ogaden fella now. Farmaajo fucked up by appointing a langaab of hawiye tribe like khayre (labo qaawan isma qaadi karaan) - this gave hawiye the perfect opportunity to score against darod - hawiye (abgaal/hg) now can appoint many langaabs of the darod to important positions, these guys will be used to hack down the top of the darod tree (punanis)

Next Hutu president will appoint maybe a leelkase or warsangeli as pm kkkkkkk

[OwQariib]

Farmaajo probably thought his appointment would split the opposition but you can never bet on Somali wavering loyalty, that is only to their clan or large sums of money.

Why did Kheyre split with Farmajo? Both suffered in the end

He needed elections to be held on time, his role in the FMS and SFG space is a mediator role not a political role that is managed by the OTP not the PMO. A PM cannot object his President if he punishes a state region or citizen for example so making his views on elections known was eventually forcing him to pick a side before they sign an extension, the rift was already apparent months before when Villa Somalia were plotting extensions. That's when he started planning his own election campaign. Farmaajo was wrong to hire Kheyre in the start, if he believed in N&N he could have found plenty of young associates within his party, but he took the wrong advice of many people including the Isbedeldoon group of 2016, men who had been scorn by HSM in his first tenure it included Fiqi, Baadiyo, Yuulka, Deni etc they wanted to break down HSM's cartel and Kheyre was his old advisor who could do that. All that did was reunite Daljir and Isbedeldoon with HSM because they are all political investors (dalaal siyaasadeed) who saw that HSM's stock options of returning looked greater. They hoodwinked Farmaajo straight from the beginning they even pushed AAW for a PM role interview. Anyway Kheyre and Farmaajo are both gone and never coming back. Forget about them.

Problem for both khayre and farmaajo in the end was the same- they came from langaab tribes which didn’t have big muscles for influence. Hutu voted for farmaajo for the simple reason he was not mj, same reason hawiye installed ogaden fella now. Farmaajo fucked up by appointing a langaab of hawiye tribe like khayre (labo qaawan isma qaadi karaan) - this gave hawiye the perfect opportunity to score against darod - hawiye (abgaal/hg) now can appoint many langaabs of the darod to important positions, these guys will be used to hack down the top of the darod tree (punanis)

Next Hutu president will appoint maybe a leelkase or warsangeli as pm kkkkkkk

You not the first Somalis with a jeegaan sxb, before the USC, Barre's only "Hawiye ally" was Murursade, to the point Abgaal laashin Max'ed Gacal Xaywere laments in his poems about the sedbursi and they had a Vice President for many years mind you. In the early 2000s Abdiqasim was appointed President while his clan were assisting JVA but he appointed an Awrtable as PM, he did MX little favour and he was against federalising the lalalands. It took multiple failed PMs until Farmaajo became PM so why would he owe Abgaal or HG anything at all as President.