The Economist: Somali clans Gains against al-Shabab are a boost for Hassan Sheikh Govt

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1991 HG was so Famous 2022 Hawadle are More Famous


Somali clans are revolting against jihadists
Gains against al-Shabab are a boost for Somalia’s new government
A Somali Soldier assigned to the 3rd DANAB maintains a watchful eye during a short security halt a on patrol near the town of Wanla Weyn, Somalia on July 22, 2019. The DANAB are a highly trained Somali National Army infantry commando force. It is named after the Somali word for lightning. Its strikes have repeatedly reclaimed land in quick succession previously possessed by Somali Al-Qaeda linked insurgents Al-Shabaab. (U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Patrick W. Mullen III/ Released)
Nov 3rd 2022 | MOGADISHU

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Muktar robow, once a feared leader of al-Shabab, al-Qaeda’s richest and most lethal affiliate, jabs his finger at a map of Somalia. Now a cabinet minister, he rattles off the names of places that have recently been recaptured from his erstwhile comrades. The lands of the Hawadle clan in Hiran, central Somalia? “They’ve liberated all of it.” Almost all of the region’s key roads are also under government control. The next districts to be liberated will probably be Galguduud and Middle Shabelle (see map). And the rest of Somalia? “Al-Shabab is on the back foot,” answers the former terrorist who once had a $5m American bounty on his head. “Gains are being made every day.”

Those gains have, however, come at a bloody price. On October 29th twin car bombings in the capital, Mogadishu, killed at least 100 people. It was the country’s deadliest attack since a blast at the same place five years ago. Al-Shabab swiftly claimed credit, saying their target was the education ministry and calling it an “enemy base” bent on turning Somali children away from their Islamic faith. Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, who has pledged “total war” against the jihadists since returning to office in May for his second term as president, replied that these revenge attacks showed the government is “winning”.

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[theyuusuf143]

It's obvious xawaadle are trying to lift themselves up from the laangaab Zone. That's why you are obsessed with your self. Every xawaadle who speaks is badmouthing other hawiyes and braising themselves. daarods noticed this so they are praising xawaadle just to insult abgaal. It's like all somalis are following the isaaq trend. Reer kii wax isku aadistaaba reerka kasii hooseeyu caayaya kkkkk. Isaaq is top of the chain followed by majeerteen, xawaadle kaalinta 3aad buu cidhiidhsanaya xitaa Habar gidir baraad dhaafiseen . Reer kii dhulkiisa alshabaab Ku negaata waa subhuman. Abgaal Ka aad haloo caayo si ay u kacaan.

Give Muj titles to all those who die against alshabaab. Mujaahid cilmi boqor ugu magac dara Xero ciidan. Xawaadlaw hada kadib dadka civilized Ka ah baad Ka mid tihiin.

[Gubbet]

It's obvious xawaadle are trying to lift themselves up from the laangaab Zone. That's why you are obsessed with your self. Every xawaadle who speaks is badmouthing other hawiyes and braising themselves. daarods noticed this so they are praising xawaadle just to insult abgaal. It's like all somalis are following the isaaq trend. Reer kii wax isku aadistaaba reerka kasii hooseeyu caayaya kkkkk. Isaaq is top of the chain followed by majeerteen, xawaadle kaalinta 3aad buu cidhiidhsanaya xitaa Habar gidir baraad dhaafiseen . Reer kii dhulkiisa alshabaab Ku negaata waa subhuman. Abgaal Ka aad haloo caayo si ay u kacaan.

Give Muj titles to all those who die against alshabaab. Mujaahid cilmi boqor ugu magac dara Xero ciidan. Xawaadlaw hada kadib dadka civilized Ka ah baad Ka mid tihiin.

So you are saying you are a laangaab who just did momentary makeover ("lifted" themsleves through outsized share of monopolization of public opinion)?

And fyi, that is exactly what you accused in your post towards the gentleman? But then said congrats, for following my "trend?"

Well, I'll be damned!

Don't even contest what you said, it doesn't even need clarification. I want you to tell us why you said that about yourself?

[theyuusuf143]

It's obvious xawaadle are trying to lift themselves up from the laangaab Zone. That's why you are obsessed with your self. Every xawaadle who speaks is badmouthing other hawiyes and braising themselves. daarods noticed this so they are praising xawaadle just to insult abgaal. It's like all somalis are following the isaaq trend. Reer kii wax isku aadistaaba reerka kasii hooseeyu caayaya kkkkk. Isaaq is top of the chain followed by majeerteen, xawaadle kaalinta 3aad buu cidhiidhsanaya xitaa Habar gidir baraad dhaafiseen . Reer kii dhulkiisa alshabaab Ku negaata waa subhuman. Abgaal Ka aad haloo caayo si ay u kacaan.

Give Muj titles to all those who die against alshabaab. Mujaahid cilmi boqor ugu magac dara Xero ciidan. Xawaadlaw hada kadib dadka civilized Ka ah baad Ka mid tihiin.

So you are saying you are a laangaab who just did momentary makeover ("lifted" themsleves through outsized share of monopolization of public opinion)?

And fyi, that is exactly what you accused in your post towards the gentleman? But then said congrats, for following my "trend?"

Well, I'll be damned!

Don't even contest what you said, it doesn't even need clarification. I want you to tell us why you said that about yourself?

Isaaq has never been in the laangaab Zone. But we went through a lot of difficult times and set example for other Somalis. The isaaq trend is the only way . Learn from the xawaadle the same way they are learning from majeerteen, and majeerteen learned from Somaliland . We proved that only qabyaalad is effective against extremism. That's why xawaadle are relying on themselves not soomaliweyn Dir or daarod. Because they have seen how effective it's and they are on the right track.

[Gubbet]

Sxb, I never called you laangaab and btw I will never in the rest of my life call another Somali "laangaab" after I cracked what that term actually is, how it come into existence, and how extremely manipulative and destructive it is. It all has to do with something guys like Cerulli and Lewis briefly noticed about the Somali clan system but never expanded on and has not been appreciated much by anyone see. It's long but it has to do with something they called "telescoping" or when at different periods in clan contracting or bifurcating (splitting/kala baxeen) where the momentary contraction is taking place manipulatively imposes a price upon other lineages for purposes of why the system exists (water, grazing access, protection, mag, etc). So basically when they say Mohamed Salebam is the "biggest" and the youngest lineage in MJ or the Mohamed Subeer clans im OG or the Sugulleh in Habar Yonis and I would say most extremely perpetuated by Rer Diini clans of Marehan...yeah the lineages contracted and bifurcating but they aren't any more young than others. Based on differences in when the comtracting ia happening or other environmental and material consequences, either or more fellow lineages "telescope" or dispense with unimportant or non bifurcated names and eveb sometimes consolidatate moving up and down until their branch is more "economical" in order to all reach it faster in the part of the genealogy they meet up with the contracting clan. This is why Somali lineages are not historical artifacts, and can't tell us much about the past...it is a living tool used to navigate access to resources in the present and why after my life, for example, my own concept of my genealogy will be different to those in the future who will inherit something that has been reformed or updated for what affects it after me. So while a rer Diini can say in Marehan, shaluu noolaa Diini, abtirsigaygu waa lafta geela badha...not quite! It's not that Diini is the youngest or has the "most" count, it is that he was allowed to keep the longest as the lineage "currently" had the most contractions. The more distance another Marehan lineage had in between, the more names they got rid of in between to get "closer" to the bifurcation point they intersect with rer Diini. But this was different during when rer Garad had the title in Marehan just 200years ago. Clans "telescope" for efficiency which makes it look the big lineage that doesn't have to telescope are the youngest and hence with the longest line. It's bs manipulation lol.

Also I don't know if you recognize, but you are talking to a Marehan lol. My entire clan social, political, psychological, cultural, whatever, is Martial. Literally and consequentially. We are in a walking state of "Heegan." Lol. When I am observing what is going on with these clan storylines, it is like a professional sports player calmly observing junior varsity making good effort, learning form and how to dripple. Sxb, we would be 1000 km away with our entire corps on horseback with sahan and sahay plus our families and kids all having provisioned all the dry meat and milk we need until we have taken Lake Victoria next. In some ways, it is a sad reality that we have known less peace than these central plateau and plains facing clana, but that has bred competitive advantage in my clan very basic foundation. The last city or town occupied by Shabaab that was a Marehan town was in 2011 and even in Galgaduud when Cayroow and Dahir Aweys brought them to our borders when they captured Dhusamareb and Guriceel, we put that group you think is Ahlu Sunnah together to make sure we stopped them at the district border and then even helped move them out of those two towns for insurance. That was Ahlu Sade which had 40% of Ahlu Sunnah when the group was the most national and multiclan (Dir, HG, rest Ahlu Sunnah), but in that beginning was possibly 60% Sade (I always reserve at least 20% for the Dir Surre partners of ours against extremism, Ayr was 20 in the beginning but increased their ahare to 30% later). This was actual scientific estimates by independent, investigative journalist Jay Bahadur who wrote the pirate book and behind recent Puntland weapon smuggling stuff.

Ninkan waxuu yiri "follow me." Bro, you have been on vacation the past 30 years.and you just told a Marehan "learn from me and Majerten about fighting"

Abti, burjigeyga "dhan" baa SHAR iyo DAGAAL ku dhisan mise anigaa ku moodaye Somaali matihid mana aad garaynaysid

[sahal80]

It's obvious xawaadle are trying to lift themselves up from the laangaab Zone. That's why you are obsessed with your self. Every xawaadle who speaks is badmouthing other hawiyes and braising themselves. daarods noticed this so they are praising xawaadle just to insult abgaal. It's like all somalis are following the isaaq trend. Reer kii wax isku aadistaaba reerka kasii hooseeyu caayaya kkkkk. Isaaq is top of the chain followed by majeerteen, xawaadle kaalinta 3aad buu cidhiidhsanaya xitaa Habar gidir baraad dhaafiseen . Reer kii dhulkiisa alshabaab Ku negaata waa subhuman. Abgaal Ka aad haloo caayo si ay u kacaan.

Give Muj titles to all those who die against alshabaab. Mujaahid cilmi boqor ugu magac dara Xero ciidan. Xawaadlaw hada kadib dadka civilized Ka ah baad Ka mid tihiin.

Cajiib waaye markuu Isaaq hoos kuu fiirinaayo thanks to Hawiye

ka waran nin Hawadle ah ay Isaaq ku doorteen magaalada Hargeysa dhexeeeda not Xamar not Baladweyne waxay u u doorteen the Chairman of the SNC Sheikh Ali Jimcaale Cigaalne Xooghaye

what about this Doorsho ood u codeyseen si uu PM idiin siiyo
https://www.hiiraan.com/op2/2010/sept/t ... cracy.aspx

pressurekii Hawadle dartiis ay MJ pmka udinsiiyeen in leen hawiyahaaan kale oo caasimada leh waa hurdaane dawlad aysan hawiye ku jirin baa baa la sameeyay halkii uu adan cade ku dhici waayey inuu isaaq pm magacaabo!

Hawadle mucaaradnimada waa idinkaga horeeyeen too. 1982 Jidka ama Jeele. SNM 1984. Ku dar Sheikh Mohamed Ali Muslim brotherhood. Professor Afyare, Professor Abdi Nur Sheikh and alot of Hawadle including my uncle left Somalia for being his Followers. it was seen as Hawadle mucaarad movement and the regime was punishing us because of him and attacking our Jungal Yaakhshiid area and Xararyaale Murusade area he had alot of followers from them btw the Murusade led Daljir is their political wing its chairman wasiir Hassan Macalin is married to Sheikh mohamed moalins daughter
this is the Hawadle wife ismael Ali abukar bal dhageyso dhibka ay kala kulantey inay Sheikh Momahed Maliin xertiiisa noqotey oo wax walbe looga qaadey. this is 70s at that time isaaq were chewing khat with Moorgan in Hargeysa


finally USC xagee base u aheed farjano oo ah tuulo hawadle oo ka tirsan feerfeer itoobiya kadibna hotel guuleed Xamar oo Caydiid USC lagu doortey. hawiyahaan aan hada horboodeyno anagaa kicin jirnay waligeen. Caydiid Asagoo india ka yimid uu nagu soo degay farjano waxaa HG ka joogey xoogaa Ceyr ah. meesha la isugu yimid bay Hiiraan aheed sida hada hiiraan hawsha looga wado. Saleebaan baa diiday inay Caydiid hoos tagaan oo kadibna Cali mahdi isticmaaley. hadii aysan Hawadle aheen maba lamidoobeen aanba fashilno dagaalka kadib laakin ka hor anagaa mideynay.

Hotelkaan aan ku diidnay inaan dhinac raacno Cali gar leh Ceydiidna Jid leh. waxaan soo jeedinay in Ali mahdi ku meelgaar madaxweyne u ahaado waa dhibouti Ceydiidna USC chairman loo doorto wey dhacdey waxaa ku mudoobay hawiye. Xuseen bood oo waceysle ah iyi ahmed shido oo Saleebaan ah baa ku heestey. Caydiid aa ururku doortey in this hotel unanimously. Hawadle aa keenay ka waran. waxay isku dhaceen kadib shirkii djibouti oo Cali mahdi loo doortey.

Mahamud fiidow Hawadle waaye. hawiye hada ka mashalaayaano hal mid qaladka hala saaro aka Zero-sum Game

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[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gubbet,

It’s no point. At this point, it’s no point talking we’re M24. We set the wave:

[theyuusuf143]

@Sahal

Halgankii 80s idinkaa kaga horgeeyey habar gidir oo xitaa SNM deputy chairman keedu xawaadluu ahaa , waxa kun jeer macquula in ninkaa xawaadle is baray caydiid iyo SNM . Hadana sidaas oo ay
tahay HG overshadowed you from 1991 iyo wixii Ka danbeeyey. Imika idinkaa kubada wata , cumaamadan idinku tuurnay xawaadlaw hore u socda nimanyaw you earned our respect . Laakiin somalida maraykoodu waa anaga. Our superiority complex can not be marched.

Maraykanka haduu liis argagixiso oo muhiima leeyahay. Anaguna waxaanu leenahay liiska qadaaadweyn weynta. Dhamaan reer koonfurku liiskaas bay noogu jiraan , laakiin marba qolada heerka ilbaxnimadoodu uu level Ka isaaqu aqbali Karo gaadho baanu Ka saarnaa liiska. Saacadaa laga bilaabo xawaadle qadaaadweyn maaha , team security assessment Ku sameeya beledwayne baanu soo dirsanayna , intaas kadib muwaadiniintayada waxan u fasaxayna inay soo booqan karaan beerlula amaankooduna sugan yahay si lamida siday garowe ba amaan ugu ledaan. Category A gaanu Ku darayna hiraan oo ay idinkula jirto puntland.

Guul baan idiin rajaynaya. Welcome to the club .

[theyuusuf143]

@gubet

In my opinion marehan has nothing to show off at the moment. You are in the list of qadaaadweyn. I advise invest your land and improve your territory. To be honest with you if my mum says I am going to marehan land I would worry for her security , not because of the people but because of the general atmosphere of your territory. Forget about villa Somalia or Nairobi put your money where you come from. Don't go to Ankara for vacation go to gedo.

[Gubbet]

Gubbet,

It’s no point. At this point, it’s no point talking we’re M24. We set the wave:

What's M24? You know my communication deficiencies on these matters

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Gubbet,

It’s no point. At this point, it’s no point talking we’re M24. We set the wave:

What's M24? You know my communication deficiencies on these matters

M or Mim. You know the numerical value. Secondly, 24 is Kobe. I’m paying homage to your coast.

[Gubbet]

@gubet

In my opinion marehan has nothing to show off at the moment. You are in the list of qadaaadweyn. I advise invest your land and improve your territory. To be honest with you if my mum says I am going to marehan land I would worry for her security , not because of the people but because of the general atmosphere of your territory. Forget about villa Somalia or Nairobi put your money where you come from. Don't go to Ankara for vacation go to gedo.

Walaal, nuunuuda daa, Soomaali walle iyo billee inaad garanayn 3 ayagu ahne meeley taagan yihiin maadan arag

Lesson #1 Soomaali waxay ka faalootay "Mareexaan waxaad u tahay wuu yaqaan, wuxuu kuu yahayse garan maayo"

People misunderstand that like they misunderstand Qaan Mareexaan, Qaaxo kugu maqan.

Qaan isn't a loan or debt or borrowed or even anything you can do to me.

Qaan = My camel

I don't care if it is the prized, best she-camel. I don't care if it is the old, dying guumays. I don't care if it is the young Aaran buck. I don't care if its the old, sickly doob.

You touch one of my "property, equity, investment, anything I own in my right hand."----waa qaaxo kugu maqan, adigu iyo qabiilkaaguba waad u qoolmi doontaan. Qaaxo is whooping cough. It always comes out. Always.

Similarly, waxaad u tahay/waxuu kuu yahay doesn't mean relations or that it is about "selfishness."

Yahay = Comparison

It means, my friend, Marehan is the "Mandate of Heaven" in Somali universe. He is the Somali version of "Son of Heaven" in Han Chinese culture.

The maahmaah literally and figuratively is saying "The Throne knows how far or close you are; it is not important how far or close you think it is."

I kid you not, wallahi that is the meaning and it was, like qaan, a maahmaah attributed by the Somali nation, not internally by the clan.

Hadee talaa loo baahanyahay, anigu jawaab cad waxaan ka dhiibo ilaa iyo haatan uma jeedee.

[theyuusuf143]

One more thing I have to add you to the list of the Insane people on This forum. You must dabcasar or something. Brother waan Ku dhex lumaa qoraaladada , caqliyadayda yar way Ku wareertay qaab qoraalkaaga , dulucda sheekadada, waxaadu meeluu Ka bilaambo iyo meeluu Ku dhamaado toona maleh , waa giraan sidaa u wareegaysa waan Ku wareeray. Waar niyaw ma dabcasar baad tahay waxani waali Ka badane. Naw waar nimanyaw ninkan cilmi baa jeexaan u malaynaya , marku u yaryahay waa professor waashay. Waar cubeedaw indr lecture kaagu intan aqaanay wuu dhaafee hore u soco

[Gubbet]

Nin rag ah ok caqli badan baa tahay, kaftan iga maad hesheen had I not observed you would be able to handle it