Kaxandhaale | 2022/10/25

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Reality Long After The Dust Settled



Fiction During The Dust Storm



1989 2022

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This is Dahir Calasoow pretending to be "going" through Rer Caabudwaaq territory, especially Kaxandhaale in 2020.



And the following is an actual Rer Caabudwaaq driving through Rer Caabudwaaq territory, in particular across Kaxandhaale in 2020.



The propaganda waged with information seems to have been fought as hard as the actual conflict which ironically saw the consequential and strategic outcomes of the clash realized very quickly. That is to say all the important objectives were settled in the first clashes undertaken by Caabudwaaq. Everything since has been drive by shootings, hit and runs, inconsequential retaliation for ego, etc.

Yet the propaganda war---I spent a quick moment perusing youtube hits on this conflict and I did not know whether to crack a humourous smile or actually feel sorry for the people who were convincing everyone else they were "winning" something that had already been settled conclusively to their dissatisfaction.

I wanted to post some of those videos, but I had to criticize my own self for even having that thought.

So I didn't ---besides that is Mr. Dahir Calasow; and only because he is a public figure and puts these things out there for public consumption anywho.

Here is the full video by that Rer Caabudwaaq vlogger who shows us in visuals everything I have come to find out and shared about the value of Caabudwaaq grazing lands.

It is the 2 year old video of Kaxandhaale grazing lands of which I took the above photos. The land of Myrrh indeed.

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Illustrations always go a long way, I find, in helping me quickly understand something. Well here is a quick and somewhat unskillful attempt at bringing down this entire history into an easy to understand illustration.

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Holy shit brother cubayd why are you so obsessed with marehan territories and marehanhood these days. Stop wasting your time on these nonsense maps. No one can take a whole settlement from an other Clan. We passed that era.

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Too harsh of a reply.

No walal, my only purpose on this forum since coming back has been stated by me 2X. It is entirely about getting this information out about my deegaan. I explained that clearly 2X and as for why, well that is my concern.

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Explaining both why I am choosing to entirely only post my particular topics.

You misunderstand sxb.

Recall my response to a similar engagement from a remarkably similar type of person with similar obsession with my ability to even "write" anything here as "OgadenAar" individual above;

Gubbet,you will not tell us about our land,who lives with us and who is johny come lately.No amount google maps,long streams of conciousness will change it.

I am putting imagery to these concepts for the many young Marehan that have bookmarked me on this forum for periodic checking to learn about their history.

Do not assume at all the soft power of information is anything but complimentary

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 5#p5029926

Sbashi, you should not assume the same as well sxb.

I can tell you my vast collection of historical documents and artifacts, of which I have pulled some of these historical maps displayed, form, for example, parts of evidentiary exhibits utilized by, for example, the Sade Ugaas in his extensive lobbying in Addis to correct the historical disenfranchisement of the clan in eastern border regions of Ethiopia.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 6#p5031019

These topics are not necessarily written for any particular persons here to read. Simple answer.

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Similarly, that's not the only example of my "mapping" being strategically utilized for real impact on equities.

I disclosed here rather unimportantly and without relevance to anything other than support to the inference concerning the subject (population estimates of Somalis are heavily manipulated), that I contributed to correction of Caabudwaaq estimates through manipulated mapping at UN offices;

That's fake sxb, including the 1931 blah census and all the irrelevant numbers. There has never been true numbers in Somalia. For example, even when the colonists did "numbers" it was always coinciding with trying to deemphasize an expression of defiance.

I am not going to argue this point, these are things that require handling with care.

But I will tell you the numbers games are still attempted with manipulation and will continue to be vulnerable to it until a universally affirmed process is allowed to project in front of all of us collectively..

Tusaale, I will give you 2 examples right in this modern era where I contributed some input that was considered compelling enough to be adopted by the UNOCHA.

Marehan. Particularly Caabudwaaq district.

You will notice the old pre-2012 famine UN numbers about Caabudwaaq in particular and central Somalia are very different to the post-2012 famine number.

Before the 2012 famine, all the numbers were shit. Literally politically engineered with bias by the Somali gatekeepers..under the Western UN staff who them because they weren't really being held accountable and didn't care, just stamped the Somali gatekeepers info. Somali is in civil war and we know the civil war was fought on so many terrain. Well Galgaduud has 4/5 districts named to Hawiye and in particular post-1991 Mogadishu formed large NGO gatekeep class contracted by the Un groups in 90's and 2000's.

So the majority districts of the region and the gatekeepers in Mogadishu happened to reflect each other.

Then the nice, interesting issue of the BORDER at Caabudwaaq. Yipee.

So basically, even if Somali region/Ogaden has been historically disputed and even fought over and even if the official demarcation has never been attempted by Ethiopia and Somalia---all of that ia different to the fact there is "no" dispute surrounding Caabudwaaq or for miles west of Caabudwaaq to Bali Abdi Ali. Even in civil war Somalia, whem the nation imploded, Ethiopia never tried to "dispute" Caabudwaaq, BECAUSE IT CONSIDERS IT PART OF SOMALIA.

But that important understanding betweem Ethiopia and Somalia, really the only one that even matters, we know is projected rather interestingly by Google Maps, an understanding completely unimportant and irrelevant to the one between Somalia and Ethiopia who are the entities who would be contesting if they had a dispute correct?

Well, thenpre-2012 fake numbers without supervision or oversight or protocol would play "games" with Caabudwaaq's numbers based on what irrelevant google map reflect about "Somalia's boundary."

So basically they would choose the arbitrary google boundary and not the Somalia's boundary as 1.) Presented by Somalia historically 2) and just as important never disputed by Ethiopia and 3.)recognized by the international community including officially by the UN agency they were working for.

Caabudwaaq town up to Bali Abdi Ali is Somalia. Somalia mot only claims it, but has always had the administration of it. Just as importantly Ethiopia has settled concordance with that understanding with a dispute never being intiated by Ethiopia. Even if they finally had a chance to play a sneaky and escalated game after 1991, they never did anything to call into question their position that Caabudwaaq area and all its immediate settlements upto Bali Abdi Ali are officially Somalia, etc etc etc

Why would these people use google maps?

The answer is simple and nefarious.

It was to provide a "defensible" MANIPULATION of the numbers.

So you can splice and dice actual Abudwaaq town choosing which parts you wanted AND WHOLE SALE DISCARDING ENTIRE SUBURBS AND VILLAGES OF CAABUDWAAQ LIKE LIBAAXSEEXAY, ARIADAYS, SHIILOMADOOW EVEN BALANBALE TOWN.

So the Caabudwaaq you look at satellite imagery is (you know I am not being spiteful if obviously mild unscientifically) as big as Dhusamareb, Guriceel, Ceel Dheer, AND Ceel-Buur together.......somehow ends up 1/3 the size of Ceel-Dheer with the fake, manipulated "est" numbers next to each to each other.


And Caabudwaaq even has the biggest villages in Galgaduud. The town of Balanbale is bigger than Ceel-dheer and Ceel-Buur together. Balanbale town is as big as "Dhusa Mareb" town. I have 0 desire for insult on any of this and you should read it as rough comparison but entirely legitimate. The Wagardhac village of Dhabad is the same size as Hobyo. The Rer Siyaad Hussein village of Bangeelle is the same size as Mareerguur iyo Baxdo. Even remember the Dir Village of Xeraale is bigger than Gelinsoor iyo Badiiradley iyo Wabxo iyo Galhareeri.

Yacni, Caabudwaaq is not 1/3 of Ceel Dheer but is actually comparable to 1/3 of Galmudug hadii laysku daro and this evidence not the argument but the evidence for a grotesque manipulation, intentionally undercounting Caabudwaaq was so compelling, a commendation was the response even. Thank you for making us more accurate ba loola jawaabay not even "we will look into this."


Marka sxb, I know very, very, very clearly ignoble and entirely sundry history of the numbers game in Somalia..

K would encourage you to always refrain from applying as a standard or attempting to use any population figures concerning Somalis that contain "digits."

That is immediately delegitimizimg being able to tell you with 100% certainly there has never been the existence of a count of Somali communities particularly by clan that was not taitnted by a methodology that could not survive the test of political bias or manipulation or both.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0#p5031757

The point is not that I care whether you or anyone knows this or finds it important---I am a nick on a screen to you and your recognition or lack thereof is really irrelevant to me as it should be---but that why I post what I post and what of it that I post cannot be implicated by what you or another forum participant thinks of it.

If you read it, great---if you do not, it wasn't necessarily directed at you and that is not a personal qualification.

As for what relevance you attribute to it---well, Sir, I gave you but those two examples to say don't even concern yourself with it. Wallahi, don't walaal. Kaba gudub.

Now I wrote a sharp and stinging retort at first, but I erased it in favor of giving you the benefit of the doubt and not instituting hostility wantonly as I have had the unfortunate affect of having done so in the past. So on my part, I gave you a substantive reply out of deference not because I felt compelled to do so as you, and I, would agree we have no compulsion over each other.

Amaan aan isa siino walaal if we do not appreciate each other's 's contributions---the forum waa waasac, wuu balaaran yahay. Nin walba tiisa haysku mashquuliyo.