Somalia needs Council of Elders, an "advisory" co-equal office to the President.

[Gubbet]

It hit me.

Why has no one ever thought of this.


What: An institution composed of every qabiil's preeminent "Chief"

Who: 4.5 has codified "legally" every "qabiil" and community. It is perfectly legitimate. But instead of sending your apportioned mps, every 4.5 group gets equal "1" representative. The highest traditional seat of that unit is the 4.5 unit's representstive.

How: Every single Chief has 1 vote equal to every other Chief. The body only picks from among each other 1 chief to speak for or announce adopted position. The Chiefs only adopt a position with 100% consensus. Even if 1 chief is not in agreement, that position of the Chiefs does not exist. 100% agreement only then does it become a position the Council advices publicly.

When the Chiefs adopt a position, their role is advisory, guidance, head of society, reconciliation, moral and ethical conscience-----meaning the Office has no governmental powers, agents, or authority. BUT, by default of a position being adopted (meaning the chiefs had to have convened and agreed 100% on this advice being sent) the position AUTOMATICALLY has to be received with effect in a 48 hr period by the SPEAKER OF THE PARLIAMENT.

Parliament must publicly debate that received position within a week.

And Parliament must vote publicly on that position within two weeks.

If Parliament passes the position.

The President must publicly walk into the Council of Elders location/sitting/space and must publicly receive the handover of that position in writing form from the elders. Handing over the letter should be whoever is that moments 1 chief chosen from among them who only announces publicly what the adopted position is.

The President having received the position after it was debated and approved by parliament MUST carry out its recommendations within 15 days max.

In stature and maqaam, the council of elders is co-equal to the President.

Yet, they havr no executive power, no governmental power, no state agents, no legislative powers, they are not public ministers of authority, they do not meet with diplomats, go to those functions, etc----AS THE COUNCIL OF ELDERS as an institution. Individually and in their own individal authority as the head of their qabiil, whatever they do is their business.

The council of elders would specifically be formed with a goal of protecting and safeguarding RECONCILIATION.

Any time they view something as dangerous to reconciliation or social wellbeing in particularly, they would be deputized to give advice sort of "intervening"---but only if the advice has been 100% adopted by the body. We shouldn't even know they decided to convene or are in the process of discussion about something until it has been announced by the chief speaking to announce the 100% agreed upon advice.

Ladies and gentlemen, this is Somalia's chemotherapy to the cancer of polarization...

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

A national Guurti. Nice idea but whose gonna make sure Al Shabaab and other nefarious entities don’t bully the elders?

[Gubbet]

Saddam, as a Somali you should be answering that question.

Blood that colors the Nile would be shed were anyone to even threaten the hair of a Somali clan's highest traditional chief.

[GeoSeven]

A council of elders in one form or another could be good but there would need to be security and a gov of measure first.

[BigBreak]

A council of elders in one form or another could be good but there would need to be security and a gov of measure first.

The federal authorities should be relocated from Mogadishu to somewhere safe in Puntland. Somalia's Parliament should replace its Senate with a Somaliland style Guurti

[noer]

A council of elders in one form or another could be good but there would need to be security and a gov of measure first.

The federal authorities should be relocated from Mogadishu to somewhere safe in Puntland. Somalia's Parliament should replace its Senate with a Somaliland style Guurti

the ex italian colony rewarding stealth secessionist by moving somalia's government to garowe why not force magertenland to choose between de jure independence or accept somalia de facto socereignty over garowe


but yeah. my nigga v did just call for somalia to have a gurti. like somaliland. smart move

[BigBreak]

So called Puntland has no right to be independent but for Somalia to enforce in reality its sovereignty over Majertenia enclave it has to offer concessions to reer MJ

[mahoka]

Notice how sheegato big break/noer (same individual) derail the thread and inject Somaliland into it?

Mods need to ban multi accounts and ban this troll, doesn’t add anything to the discussion

It’s definitely someone who isn’t isaaq or from Somaliland

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Honestly, it would be beneficial if Xeer was finally codified. Sorry but to be arrogant, but our Xeer system is the oldest and most organized out of all other Somalis. Our brothers come close. However, we live in a society where bona fide, isn’t normal.

[Voltage]

Somali political actors read this forum so do donors and so do especially US Africa Command and intelligence/security sector. Heck even Rashid Abdi and our infamous friend Dibjir do.

Somalis and non-Somalis, if you want to change something in the status quo to plant a stabilizing seed in the Somali seastorm-----

-----take this idea EXACTLY as it is and help make it a reality in the Somali political "system."

Exactly as it is or at the least without changing a single part of these features:

-Elders pegged to 4.5 groups with the same legitimacy for parliament
-Each group with 1 representative
-entirely advisory with no state powers
-no "hierarchy" in the elders, just someone picked to read decisions


And the most important

-100% consensus or no position. Every single "1" chief of the body of chiefs has to be in agreement for universal consensus. No plurality or "majority vote" or "2/3" or anything shy of ...100% agreement. Only 100% consensus by every single elder!

This is is clear, efficient, wholeheartedly internal driven and owned adjudication of any dangerous standoffs.

My sum experience on this board was destined to bring me to this point to give this advice.

It is given!