The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:11 pm
by Gubbet
Never forget the entire purpose is scheming for pilfering Western government foreign aid money for "countering extremism"
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:22 pm
by ReturnOfMariixmaan
Madoff, kiss the feet of awliya Abadir iyo Amiir Nur:
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 6:29 pm
by Gubbet
Any foreign government or entity giving 1 cent should DEMAND accountability.
At minimum there should be an INDEPENDENT board with oversight and financial management. That board should include representatives from major donors.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:44 am
by noer
ghost militias fighting al shabab why didn't i think of this the ic gonna funnel money away from sna to gurgurte's men. wa qandarasku shegayay ustad sahal
ustad sahal plz tell us more about this scheme
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:32 am
by theyuusuf143
Mareexaanaw yaan laydin moodin munaafaqiin. Way cadahay cida alshabaab la dagaalamaysa , waa culusaw iyo reerkiisa . Idinku mudadii meesha aad joogteen lacagtii alshabaab lagula dagaalami lahaa. CBB baad u qaybiseen . Iyo dad idin amaana. Ayaan qudha alshabaab umaydaan biyo dhaansan. For that reason is daad raacsiiya walaalayal dawladu shaqo fiican bay wadaaye. Waa wax aan macno buuran Ku fadhin in marka adeerkiin joogana bararakhdiina laga fadhiyi waayo. Marku qof kale joogana aad aflagaado lasoo fadhiisataan. Culusaw iyo ten times better than farmaajo when it comes to the war on alshabaab.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:55 am
by original dervish
When Farmaajo was around they claimed to be Somali nationalists acting in the best interests of Somalia.
Now they spend every waking hour trying to undermine the war against AS for petty clannish reasons.
Love him or hate him hsm is waging war against AS and deserves the unreserved support of every Somali.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:58 am
by AbkoowDhiblaawe
original dervish wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:55 am
When Farmaajo was around they claimed to be Somali nationalists acting in the best interests of Somalia.
Now they spend every waking hour trying to undermine the war against AS for petty clannish reasons.
Love him or hate him hsm is waging war against AS and deserves the unreserved support of every Somali.
Well put brother!
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:08 am
by Gubbet
noer wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:44 am
ghost militias fighting al shabab why didn't i think of this the ic gonna funnel money away from sna to gurgurte's men. wa qandarasku shegayay ustad sahal
ustad sahal plz tell us more about this scheme
So in the "fighting" at Qaayib yesterday
Look at the Shabaab "arsenal" they captured
The war against the militants has been ongoing since 2006...Ethiopia has fought them, AMISOM troops from Uganda, Burundi, Kenyan Defense Forces have fought them...Somali government troops have fought them----they have been fought in bloody urban fights, fights in their wooded and forest hiding places all over the Jubba and Shabelle Rivers...
...yet no one has seen such quick, mythical, fantastical "victories" AND IN THE DESERT WITH NO HIDING PLACES OR TACTICAL OR STRATEGIC reasons for Shabaab even being there let alone fighting or grouping such men and arms
I am reminded of the Somali adage BEEN SHEEG LAKIIN BEEN RUN U EG SHEEG (IF YOU WILL TELL A LIE, AT LEAST TELL A BELIEVABLE LIE
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:10 am
by Gubbet
original dervish wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:55 am
When Farmaajo was around they claimed to be Somali nationalists acting in the best interests of Somalia.
Now they spend every waking hour trying to undermine the war against AS for petty clannish reasons.
Love him or hate him hsm is waging war against AS and deserves the unreserved support of every Somali.
Yes, your reason for being in the topic is ME, not the subject. We KNOW.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:11 am
by Gubbet
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:32 am
Mareexaanaw yaan laydin moodin munaafaqiin. Way cadahay cida alshabaab la dagaalamaysa , waa culusaw iyo reerkiisa . Idinku mudadii meesha aad joogteen lacagtii alshabaab lagula dagaalami lahaa. CBB baad u qaybiseen . Iyo dad idin amaana. Ayaan qudha alshabaab umaydaan biyo dhaansan. For that reason is daad raacsiiya walaalayal dawladu shaqo fiican bay wadaaye. Waa wax aan macno buuran Ku fadhin in marka adeerkiin joogana bararakhdiina laga fadhiyi waayo. Marku qof kale joogana aad aflagaado lasoo fadhiisataan. Culusaw iyo ten times better than farmaajo when it comes to the war on alshabaab.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
noer wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:44 am
ghost militias fighting al shabab why didn't i think of this the ic gonna funnel money away from sna to gurgurte's men. wa qandarasku shegayay ustad sahal
ustad sahal plz tell us more about this scheme
So in the "fighting" at Qaayib yesterday
Look at the Shabaab "arsenal" they captured
The war against the militants has been ongoing since 2006...Ethiopia has fought them, AMISOM troops from Uganda, Burundi, Kenyan Defense Forces have fought them...Somali government troops have fought them----they have been fought in bloody urban fights, fights in their wooded and forest hiding places all over the Jubba and Shabelle Rivers...
...yet no one has seen such quick, mythical, fantastical "victories" AND IN THE DESERT WITH NO HIDING PLACES OR TACTICAL OR STRATEGIC reasons for Shabaab even being there let alone fighting or grouping such men and arms
I am reminded of the Somali adage BEEN SHEEG LAKIIN BEEN RUN U EG SHEEG (IF YOU WILL TELL A LIE, AT LEAST TELL A BELIEVABLE LIE
Dear Forest Hills,
Not in my ends boy. That’s you why need us. It’s generational. Ya’ll should’ve been offed the camel. Y’all in Hollywood with him:
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
original dervish wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:55 am
When Farmaajo was around they claimed to be Somali nationalists acting in the best interests of Somalia.
Now they spend every waking hour trying to undermine the war against AS for petty clannish reasons.
Love him or hate him hsm is waging war against AS and deserves the unreserved support of every Somali.
Well put brother!
I think they're doing this in the belief that the forum is frequented by outsiders who might influence policy in Somalia. Reporters, analysts or other elements that might browse online platforms such as snet for insight.
There's no other explanation. Ileen an entire clan cannot instantly mutate from ultra nationalist to anti government conspiracy theorists when a president from another clan arrives.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
original dervish wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 9:55 am
When Farmaajo was around they claimed to be Somali nationalists acting in the best interests of Somalia.
Now they spend every waking hour trying to undermine the war against AS for petty clannish reasons.
Love him or hate him hsm is waging war against AS and deserves the unreserved support of every Somali.
Well put brother!
I think they're doing this in the belief that the forum is frequented by outsiders who might influence policy in Somalia. Reporters, analysts or other elements that might browse online platforms such as snet for insight.
There's no other explanation. Ileen an entire clan cannot instantly mutate from ultra nationalist to anti government conspiracy theorists when a president from another clan arrives.
This says more about you than anything else as in the "inverse", i.e. an entire clan has turned conspiracy theorist after a president from their clan has entered Villa Somalia.
Abukar Arman is neither from my clan nor yours; he is infact part of the ".5" in 4.5 or the grouping of folks the Somali political system has labeled "minorities."
Mr. Arman is even from your own hometown and region; namely Beled-Weyne in the Hiiraan Region.
He is an Arab Somali whose family derive relatively recent origins from Yemen. I don't believe he is more than 4 generations Somali if not less.
Please arrest your bias before casting unfounded aspersions.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:04 pm
by Gubbet
Might I also add I am on record here for being consistently and staunchly against "nationalism," let alone, and God forbid, "ultra-nationalism." I consider it entirely a reactionary state of mind and has garnered nothing but my profound distaste.
I don't know if you notice, but I am not a "5 Star" guy of baseless irredentism. The Ogaden is Ethiopia, the NFD is Kenya, and even Somaliland is deserving of independence provided there is self-determination for all. I have on consistent basis disavowed "nationalism" for a long time. When I champion rule of law and development for Somalia as it exists, it has nothing to do with ethnic Somali nationalism which I believe was Siad Barre's single biggest mistake.
I hate nationalists or nationalism especially the ethnic kind of Somali irredentism. Saddam will be a witness here the many private convo I have had with him about NN twitter kids and how I believe they are overly emotional, juvenile, and backward on the issue of ethnic nationalism. I champion the rule of law, development, and vitality of the Somali State as a practical matter. I am not even a "patriot" and on many occasions I have advised those under "nationalism" should switch it for "patriotism" which is wanting good for your country, but not at the expense of another.
These statements, one would be encouraged to notice, were from the period preceding the current occupant of Villa Somalia or when you inferred my "clansman" was in the presidential office.
Please consider yourself corrected on the aforementioned baseless assumption.
Re: The anti-Shabaab "channel" by HSM is a PONZI SCHEME for pilfering "anti-extremism" money