Original "official" source material discredit of "historical revisionism" in "beyond the Jubba."

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Original "official" source material discredit of "historical revisionism" in "beyond the Jubba."

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Somalia's entire problem has been historical revision.

These are two of the "official" Italian "administrative" maps put out by the Italian Foreign Minister (Ministero Degli Affari Esteri) with the "stamp" of the Government of Italian Somaliland (Governo Della Somalia Italiana) both in 1912.

They are scientific "on the ground" spatial analysis contracted to the Geographical Society of Italy (Societa Geografico Italiana)---the Italian version of Britain's "Royal Geographical Society."

Both show "Marehan" as the inhabitants of today's "Jamaame" district.


It is like how history has been revised in Gedo to reimagine "Siad Barre brought Marehan to Gedo to disposesses Digil & Mirifle" when there were NO SOMALIS BEYOND THE JUBBA (or almost 90% of Jubbaland) when Marehan removed Oromo/Borana/Wardey from the land bringing it for the first time under "Somali" control in the 1800's!

[That Marehan was also "sole" possessor of the territory between Lugh and Bardere, exactly "Gedo Region" today, in "beyond the Jubba" is also reflected.]

These representations are part of the then Italian administrative demographic project entitled "Official Colonial Study" (Ufficie Studi Coloniali).

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Map #2
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Irirism is the biggest perpetuation of "heritage appropriation" when by all accounts they simply followed the conquest of Darod in the "name" of Somali and even accessed a share of the "Darod spoil" taking advantage of shared "Somalinimo"---yet between the rise of "Irirism" in the 1950's until the "Google/Information Age" they tried their utmost to appropriate the "heritage" of the Victors who even entitled their "entitlement to the land beyond the Jubba" through the brotherhood of "Somalinimo"---once again, the same "Somalinimo" they then turned around to try to "disinherit" Darod from inorder to "disappropriate" them from the ownership of the original "spoil" brought by their Conquest!

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Re: Original "official" source material discredit of "historical revisionism" in "beyond the Jubba."

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Gubbet wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:09 pm Somalia's entire problem has been historical revision.

These are two of the "official" Italian "administrative" maps put out by the Italian Foreign Minister (Ministero Degli Affari Esteri) with the "stamp" of the Government of Italian Somaliland (Governo Della Somalia Italiana) both in 1912.

They are scientific "on the ground" spatial analysis contracted to the Geographical Society of Italy (Societa Geografico Italiana)---the Italian version of Britain's "Royal Geographical Society."

Both show "Marehan" as the inhabitants of today's "Jamaame" district.


It is like how history has been revised in Gedo to reimagine "Siad Barre brought Marehan to Gedo to disposesses Digil & Mirifle" when there were NO SOMALIS BEYOND THE JUBBA (or almost 90% of Jubbaland) when Marehan removed Oromo/Borana/Wardey from the land bringing it for the first time under "Somali" control in the 1800's!

[That Marehan was also "sole" possessor of the territory between Lugh and Bardere, exactly "Gedo Region" today, in "beyond the Jubba" is also reflected.]


Map#1
Image
Image

Map #2
Image
Image


Irirism is the biggest perpetuation of "heritage appropriation" when by all accounts they simply followed the conquest of Darod in the "name" of Somali and even accessed a share of the "Darod spoil" taking advantage of shared "Somalinimo"---yet between the rise of "Irirism" in the 1950's until the "Google/Information Age" they tried their utmost to appropriate the "heritage" of the Victors who even entitled their "entitlement to the land beyond the Jubba" through the brotherhood of "Somalinimo"---once again, the same "Somalinimo" they then turned around to try to "disinherit" Darod from inorder to "disappropriate" them from the ownership of the original "spoil" brought by their Conquest!

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I should also add this is not a "seasonal" or "period" piece.

Recall Italy and Britain had started "talks" about potential incorporation of "British Jubaland" to "Somalia Italiana" in 1915---at the height of the "Marehan Offensive" when Britain first felt it was better to remove "Jubaland" from her "British East Africa Protectorate" (or "Kenya" colony) then try continued integration.

These talks became "official" in 1918 to conclude with the exchange of British Jubbaland to Somalia Italiana in 1924.

Between 1918 and official incorporation, Italy officialized extensive study and analysis of the territory before exchange.

The following is the "official" spatial analysis produced in 1921 by the then newly formed Italian Ministry of Colonies (Ministero della Colonie) concerning the territory to be incorporated.

[Specifically it was "stamped" by the Colonial Ministry's Directorate of General Political Affairs (Direzione Generale Affari Politici) who oversaw the study]

Important features;

1. Britiain's "Serinley District" of Jubaland (almost exactly modern Gedo Region from Dolo to El-Wak to Bardere) is overwhelmingly Marehan just like today. The only non-Marehan was the corners which today are modern "Mandera" town next to Gedo, eastern bank of Lugh, and southeast of Bardere of what is today Buale district of Middle Jubba. The interior of Serinley even specifically lists the modern big -subclans of Marehan still controlling districts
  • Rer Talaha (Talxe)
  • Hawlraarsame
  • Rer Assan (reer Hassan)
  • Rer Fara Ugaz (reer Diini, rer Guuleed Faarax, etc)
  • Ahmed Ueb (reer Ahmed also known as Ahmed Weyd)
2. Also once again, Marehan was the prominent community of Jamaame, although between 1912 in the earlier analysis to 1921, Ogaadeen and Sheekhaal seem to have moved in to the area because they are now also represented to neighbor Marehan.


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Gubbet wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:25 pm I should also add this is not a "seasonal" or "period" piece.

Recall Italy and Britain had started "talks" about potential incorporation of "British Jubaland" to "Somalia Italiana" in 1915---at the height of the "Marehan Offensive" when Britain first felt it was better to remove "Jubaland" from her "British East Africa Protectorate" (or "Kenya" colony) then try continued integration.

These talks became "official" in 1918 to conclude with the exchange of British Jubbaland to Somalia Italiana in 1924.

Between 1918 and official incorporation, Italy officialized extensive study and analysis of the territory before exchange.

The following is the "official" spatial analysis produced in 1921 by the then newly formed Italian Ministry of Colonies (Ministero della Colonie) concerning the territory to be incorporated.

[Specifically it was "stamped" by the Colonial Ministry's Directorate of General Political Affairs (Direzione Generale Affari Politici) who oversaw the study]

Important features;

1. Britiain's "Serinley District" of Jubaland (almost exactly modern Gedo Region from Dolo to El-Wak to Bardere) is overwhelmingly Marehan just like today. The only non-Marehan was the corners which today are modern "Mandera" town next to Gedo, eastern bank of Lugh, and southeast of Bardere of what is today Buale district of Middle Jubba. The interior of Serinley even specifically lists the modern big -subclans of Marehan still controlling districts
  • Rer Talaha (Talxe)
  • Hawlraarsame
  • Rer Assan (reer Hassan)
  • Rer Fara Ugaz (reer Diini, rer Guuleed Faarax, etc)
  • Ahmed Ueb (reer Ahmed also known as Ahmed Weyd)
2. Also once again, Marehan was the prominent community of Jamaame, although between 1912 in the earlier analysis to 1921, Ogaadeen and Sheekhaal seem to have moved in to the area because they are now also represented to neighbor Marehan.


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Re: Original "official" source material discredit of "historical revisionism" in "beyond the Jubba."

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Saddam, waa caynkaas. :som:


I have uploaded here all 3 of the spatial representations in high resolution PDF format for anybody who wants to zoom and/or download them

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Re: Original "official" source material discredit of "historical revisionism" in "beyond the Jubba."

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Gubbet wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:58 pm Saddam, waa caynkaas. :som:


I have uploaded here all 3 of the spatial representations in high resolution PDF format for anybody who wants to zoom and/or download them

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You’re summoning jutsu is impeccable my friend. The capital knows I refuse their offer outright. I’m the grandson of the master craftsman. Nobody forces their position on me. Nobody

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ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:37 pm You’re summoning jutsu is impeccable my friend. The capital knows I refuse their offer outright. I’m the grandson of the master craftsman. Nobody forces their position on me. Nobody


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Gubbet wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:26 pm
ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:37 pm You’re summoning jutsu is impeccable my friend. The capital knows I refuse their offer outright. I’m the grandson of the master craftsman. Nobody forces their position on me. Nobody


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Bump since they are trying to compare Gedo to Lower Shabelle.
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Gubbet wrote: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:17 am Bump since they are trying to compare Gedo to Lower Shabelle.
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Timely..
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Gubbet wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:27 amTimely..
Very. :up:
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