The running joke in Abudwak "Gumcadle jannaduu Mareexaan ka raadinayey, meel kaluu ka helay."

[Gubbet]

Qosol baan u dhintay wallahi.

Disclaimer: I am not trying to offend anybody and raali ahaada inta i dhibsato.

Basically "Gumcadle" is interchangeable with Makaahiil----the Ogaden clan in Warder town and Doollo region.

Well that clan have made a name for themselves in the level of indhoadeeg and daandaansi; outrageous indho adeeg even towards Marehan land in Doollo and Korahe.

Just because they are the frontier clan to Marehan, essentially "fully recognized" to be "Ethiopian side"---this clan somehow adopted the "mindset" they were "entitled" to all the land that was "Ethiopian side" upto the border with Somalia.

Now understand what this means. This is historically continuing Marehan settlement regardless of international border (and this is today);



So because Ethiopia as a political "state" and the Marehan who live on both sides of the border in that part have had unresolved continuing political issues between them as the "state" and this "clan"----Makaahiil at some point delusionally adopted the most arrogant sense of "entitlement" to all of "Marehan equity" upto the "border."

Makaahiil; not Ethiopia mind you. Ethiopia and Marehan have unresolved and political problems with unresolved meaning it was intended to be resolved at some whatever point. This is not like Israel and population displacement. Ethiopia has always recognized the settlers of Burgeesoole or Raqo or Ceel Baxay or Fadhigaraadle are Marehan.

But not Makaahiil...their biggest "elder" will tell you "Fadhigaraadle" belongs to Gumcadle, "Burgeesoole or Raqo or Ceel Baxay" belong to "Gumcadle."

NOT "Ethiopia" but "GUMCADLE."

Well look what we have now; the ENTIRE Ogaadeen clan is shocked and "disturbed" at the antics---really spoiled, immature, obnoxious even antics and behavior Makaahiil have expressed in regards to a "water project" in an area to the west of Makahiil bordering the Ogaadeen/Rer Abdille (Bah Ugaas of Rer Warfaa specifically).

Everybody lives together in Dirir Dhaba, in Jigjiga, in Qabridahar. Nobody asks for your clan in those places; even non-Somali Ethiopians freely live there.

Not in Warder. It stays a village because of the behavior Makaahiil developed and which Ogaadeen encouraged and supported---namely adopt a ridiculous sense of "entitlement" so you can actually dispossess or appropriate Marehan equity up to the border since you are "fully recognized" Ethiopian clan and they are not yet given a political issue between them and the "State."

This is Makaahiil today up in arms over a WATER PROJECT being implemented just because the neighboring Ogaden Rer Warfaa get to to utilize the water as well.



This is behavior displayed by a really, egregiously spoiled child who is now an adult and doesn't realize the world wasn't the make belief playground his parents made for him.

Rer Abdille you helped create this Monster and we in Caabudwaaq are laughing at how surprised and shocked you are.

Ogaadeen meet Makaahiil!

"Gumcadle jannaduu Mareexaan ka raadinayey meel kaluu ka helay."



P.S. This has absolutely nothing to do with any deaths or suffering or hardship befalling on anybody in this issue between Doollo and Marsin between Muuse Gumcadle and Reer Warfaa. AUN.

[Gubbet]

P.S.S. For those whose Somali is developing;

"janno" = paradise (literal) = to die

"jannaduu raadinayey" = the love/desire for starting conflict (figurative)

"Gumcadle jannaduu Mareexaan ka raadinayey meel kaluu ka helay"

=

"The Gamcadle attraction to starting conflict with Marehan has found a different target."

[Rebelxx222]

Reer Ugaas Reer Abdille subclan are natives of Doolo & Doh regions. This issue is cagjar sponsored and there is no conflict between clans. The Administration wants to build a well in Xoday Gaajo (Qarsooni) district where Makaahiil & Reer Abdille lives . Makahiil sees this well as being a political tool rather than development. Many Reer Abdille users online are enraged with Cagjar trying to start conflict between clans using century old water wells.

Gubbet I can’t believe you have no shame when you made such map. Claiming the outskirts of Shilaabo,Wardheer & Lehelow!! Subhanallah you might as well claim that Laasacanood,Biyo cadde & Miirkhalifo are not contested.

[Rebelxx222]

I think it’s a smart idea to encourage Reer Abdille expansion eastward into Doolo & shilaabo Doh region. Reer Abdille are currently the 3rd major stakeholders in shilaabo Following Bahgari & Makahiil. With Reer Abdille securing western doolo it will force Makaahiil to expand towards the border and remove Shisheeye elements that are trying to claim Ogaadeniya.

this plan however can not implemented without the removal of Cagjar. He is simply anti Ogaden & pro foreigners. Cagjar is simply not Ogaden. He has given Shisheeye more rights. When an Ogaden Messiah replaces him soon in’sha’allah we will reconstruct the damages made to the house of Absame.

[Gubbet]

Reer Ugaas Reer Abdille subclan are natives of Doolo & Doh regions. This issue is cagjar sponsored and there is no conflict between clans. The Administration wants to build a well in Xoday Gaajo (Qarsooni) district where Makaahiil lives. Makahiil sees this well as being a political tool rather than development.

Gubbet I can’t believe you have no shame when you made such map. Claiming the outskirts of Shilaabo,Wardheer & Lehelow!! Subhanallah you might as well claim that Laasacanood,Biyo cadde & Miirkhalifo are not contested.

I am not interested in your desire to "create conflict" here with me.

And I want you to understand exactly what I mean by intentionally and actively choosing not to even "attempt" to "disprove" you which is very at odds with my personality or behavior as I would imagine anyone who has read even 1 topic I have ever contributed to here is aware.

Again, I am not interested in your desire to "create conflict" with me.

You are motivated by destruction and negativity. Any engagement with you is a race to the bottom.

I value a different destination; opposite to yours.

Stop engaging me, walaal, as long as you are headed where you are.

[Gubbet]

Exhibit A;

I think it’s a smart idea to encourage Reer Abdille expansion eastward into Doolo & shilaabo Doh region. Reer Abdille are currently the 3rd major stakeholders in shilaabo Following Bahgari & Makahiil. With Reer Abdille securing western doolo it will force Makaahiil to expand towards the border and remove Shisheeye elements that are trying to claim Ogaadeniya.

this plan however can not implemented without the removal of Cagjar. He is simply anti Ogaden & pro foreigners. Cagjar is simply not Ogaden. He has given Shisheeye more rights. When an Ogaden Messiah replaces him soon in’sha’allah we will reconstruct the damages made to the house of Absame.

[Rebelxx222]

Reer Ugaas Reer Abdille subclan are natives of Doolo & Doh regions. This issue is cagjar sponsored and there is no conflict between clans. The Administration wants to build a well in Xoday Gaajo (Qarsooni) district where Makaahiil lives. Makahiil sees this well as being a political tool rather than development.

Gubbet I can’t believe you have no shame when you made such map. Claiming the outskirts of Shilaabo,Wardheer & Lehelow!! Subhanallah you might as well claim that Laasacanood,Biyo cadde & Miirkhalifo are not contested.

I am not interested in your desire to "create conflict" here with me.

And I want you to understand exactly what I mean by intentionally and actively choosing not to even "attempt" to "disprove" you which is very at odds with my personality or behavior as I would imagine anyone who has read even 1 topic I have ever contributed to here is aware.

Again, I am not interest in your desire to "create conflict" with me.

You are immature. Trying to use this issue to claim Reer Abdille & Makahiil are fighting. You go on social media and everyone is blaming cagjar & his militas. Why would Reer Abdille fight for Cagjar’s tyranny? Cagjar is the same criminal that tried to divide Cilmi & Magan communities in qabridahar using the Shisheeye mayor he selected.

Cagjar is in fact truly a blessing in disguise for Marehan. Why? Because the conflict in Fadhigaraadle,Ceelbaxay & Laasacanood would not be at a stalemate if a true Ogaden leader was in power.

Cagjar also invites your Ugaas Keyse to visit the region every 5 month for these “peace” talks held with Liyuu Boolis. Do you know why no Makahiil/Ogaden tribal members attend these peace talks, it’s because they don’t recognize such foolishness. They are waiting and biding their time for the day the internal enemies are removed from the system.

@Gubbet all peace talks held with Marehan clan is with cagjar’s paid Liyuu soldiers because no Ogaden elder will allow his lands to be claimed or settled upon.

[Gubbet]

You are immature. Trying to use this issue to claim Reer Abdille & Makahiil are fighting. You go on social media and everyone is blaming cagjar & his militas. Why would Reer Abdille fight for Cagjar’s tyranny? Cagjar is the same criminal that tried to divide Cilmi & Magan communities in qabridahar using the Shisheeye mayor he selected.

Cagjar is in fact truly a blessing in disguise for Marehan. Why? Because the conflict in Fadhigaraadle,Ceelbaxay & Laasacanood would not be at a stalemate if a true Ogaden leader was in power.

Cagjar also invites your Ugaas Keyse to visit the region every 5 month for these “peace” talks held with Liyuu Boolis. Do you know why no Makahiil/Ogaden tribal members attend these peace talks, it’s because they don’t recognize such foolishness. They are waiting and biding their time for the day the internal enemies are removed from the system.

@Gubbet all peace talks held with Marehan clan is with cagjar’s paid Liyuu soldiers because no Ogaden elder will allow his lands to be claimed or settled upon.

Fock your ONLF. Marehan lives in this land the same way they did a 100 years ago. There have been 10 periods of your views and her grade is a big fat 0%. Your mother can't move them. Your father can't move them. Your entire clan cannot move them. In fact, I will tell you to your face right now Marehan taking over "Jigjiga" is closer than what you wrote. YOU need to understand my statement is about YOU---Not "Marehan." Marehan do not need me to defend them and they certainly care even less about anything you have to think or say about them. My responses to YOU are about YOU the "individual" and why YOU are hateful.

That someone thinks, even as a cutesy joke, they should "displace" fellow human beings and/or so that those victims then go on to "displace" a 3rd group of people---which they do not neighbor--- so the 2ndly victims are uprooted from their homes, roots, and heritage to realize a deviant resentment about a presently and historically non-existent conceptualization about your "entitlement" to other people's homes is the definition of motivation by destruction and negativity.

I am not going to "advice" you on you, but I will reiterate for the umpteenth time please do not impose this on my attention or interaction.

I insist.

I also am being very strong in language because I have hope and interest that it may motivate you to lose interest and desire in these types of provocations.

[Rebelxx222]

You are immature. Trying to use this issue to claim Reer Abdille & Makahiil are fighting. You go on social media and everyone is blaming cagjar & his militas. Why would Reer Abdille fight for Cagjar’s tyranny? Cagjar is the same criminal that tried to divide Cilmi & Magan communities in qabridahar using the Shisheeye mayor he selected.

Cagjar is in fact truly a blessing in disguise for Marehan. Why? Because the conflict in Fadhigaraadle,Ceelbaxay & Laasacanood would not be at a stalemate if a true Ogaden leader was in power.

Cagjar also invites your Ugaas Keyse to visit the region every 5 month for these “peace” talks held with Liyuu Boolis. Do you know why no Makahiil/Ogaden tribal members attend these peace talks, it’s because they don’t recognize such foolishness. They are waiting and biding their time for the day the internal enemies are removed from the system.

@Gubbet all peace talks held with Marehan clan is with cagjar’s paid Liyuu soldiers because no Ogaden elder will allow his lands to be claimed or settled upon.

Fock your ONLF. Marehan lives in this land the same way they did a 100 years ago. There have been 10 periods of your views and her grade is a big fat 0%. Your mother can't move them. Your father can't move them. Your entire clan cannot move them. In fact, I will tell you to your face right now Marehan taking over "Jigjiga" is closer than what you wrote. YOU need to understand my statement is about YOU---Not "Marehan." Marehan do not need me to defend them and they certainly care even less about anything you have to think or say about them. My responses to YOU are about YOU the "individual" and why YOU are hateful.

That someone thinks, even as a cutesy joke, they should "displace" fellow human beings and/or so that those victims then go on to "displace" a 3rd group of people---which they do not neighbor--- so the 2ndly victims are uprooted from their homes, roots, and heritage to realize a deviant resentment about a presently and historically non-existent conceptualization about your "entitlement" to other people's homes is the definition of motivation by destruction and negativity.

I am not going to "advice" you on you, but I will reiterate for the umpteenth time please do not impose this on my attention or interaction.

I insist.

I also am being very strong in language because I have hope and interest that it may motivate you to lose interest and desire in these types of provocations.

In your imaginations you claim Wardheer, Qabridahar,Goday, and now Jigjiga yet you are upset with me saying that Marehans can not cross this and this line of the border since it falls upon Ogaden lands.

Bloodshed & violence is the result of claiming ones land. Do not talk a big game if you are not willing to kill or be killed for such piece of land.

If you insist that I am a hateful person, you are no different. I’m just an Ogaden who’s looking out for the interest of his people. If Marehan like yourself dream about displacing Makahiils from their land and posting threads on Somalinet victimizing them what kind of response do you think you will get?!

At last my idea of establishing Reer Abdille’s expansion into Doolo can be agreed upon by all Ogaden. Makaahiil as strong as they are can not be the only Ogaden clan defending the eastern borders. For example our Majeerten Kabalax brothers have been known in the past to settle many Majeerten & Harti subclans in Northern Mudug region to establish their dominance against neighboring Marehan & Hawiye/Irir tribes.

Marehans fear Reer Abdille in Jubbaland. I believe it’s time for them to neighbor Reer Abdille in Burgeesoole

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

You are immature. Trying to use this issue to claim Reer Abdille & Makahiil are fighting. You go on social media and everyone is blaming cagjar & his militas. Why would Reer Abdille fight for Cagjar’s tyranny? Cagjar is the same criminal that tried to divide Cilmi & Magan communities in qabridahar using the Shisheeye mayor he selected.

Cagjar is in fact truly a blessing in disguise for Marehan. Why? Because the conflict in Fadhigaraadle,Ceelbaxay & Laasacanood would not be at a stalemate if a true Ogaden leader was in power.

Cagjar also invites your Ugaas Keyse to visit the region every 5 month for these “peace” talks held with Liyuu Boolis. Do you know why no Makahiil/Ogaden tribal members attend these peace talks, it’s because they don’t recognize such foolishness. They are waiting and biding their time for the day the internal enemies are removed from the system.

@Gubbet all peace talks held with Marehan clan is with cagjar’s paid Liyuu soldiers because no Ogaden elder will allow his lands to be claimed or settled upon.

Fock your ONLF. Marehan lives in this land the same way they did a 100 years ago. There have been 10 periods of your views and her grade is a big fat 0%. Your mother can't move them. Your father can't move them. Your entire clan cannot move them. In fact, I will tell you to your face right now Marehan taking over "Jigjiga" is closer than what you wrote. YOU need to understand my statement is about YOU---Not "Marehan." Marehan do not need me to defend them and they certainly care even less about anything you have to think or say about them. My responses to YOU are about YOU the "individual" and why YOU are hateful.

That someone thinks, even as a cutesy joke, they should "displace" fellow human beings and/or so that those victims then go on to "displace" a 3rd group of people---which they do not neighbor--- so the 2ndly victims are uprooted from their homes, roots, and heritage to realize a deviant resentment about a presently and historically non-existent conceptualization about your "entitlement" to other people's homes is the definition of motivation by destruction and negativity.

I am not going to "advice" you on you, but I will reiterate for the umpteenth time please do not impose this on my attention or interaction.

I insist.

I also am being very strong in language because I have hope and interest that it may motivate you to lose interest and desire in these types of provocations.

Hate is mutual

[Rebelxx222]

This well is being built on the outskirts of Shilaabo town. It will benefit Reer Abdille’s pasture and expansion into the region. Why doesn’t Reer Abdille support this well project? Because Reer Abdille know that any initiative taken by the Cagjar regime is against Ogaden interest. All Ogadens know that this Mujrim Cagjar wants to start conflict between Ogaden clans when he failed to defend our borders with Somalia against these Mooryaan militias.
We are closely watching the events being unfolded. We condemn the injustices being committed on the Makahiil tribe by the Cagjar regime. All Ogaden diaspora and local communities stand with Makahiil.

[Gubbet]

You are immature. Trying to use this issue to claim Reer Abdille & Makahiil are fighting. You go on social media and everyone is blaming cagjar & his militas. Why would Reer Abdille fight for Cagjar’s tyranny? Cagjar is the same criminal that tried to divide Cilmi & Magan communities in qabridahar using the Shisheeye mayor he selected.

Cagjar is in fact truly a blessing in disguise for Marehan. Why? Because the conflict in Fadhigaraadle,Ceelbaxay & Laasacanood would not be at a stalemate if a true Ogaden leader was in power.

Cagjar also invites your Ugaas Keyse to visit the region every 5 month for these “peace” talks held with Liyuu Boolis. Do you know why no Makahiil/Ogaden tribal members attend these peace talks, it’s because they don’t recognize such foolishness. They are waiting and biding their time for the day the internal enemies are removed from the system.

@Gubbet all peace talks held with Marehan clan is with cagjar’s paid Liyuu soldiers because no Ogaden elder will allow his lands to be claimed or settled upon.

Fock your ONLF. Marehan lives in this land the same way they did a 100 years ago. There have been 10 periods of your views and her grade is a big fat 0%. Your mother can't move them. Your father can't move them. Your entire clan cannot move them. In fact, I will tell you to your face right now Marehan taking over "Jigjiga" is closer than what you wrote. YOU need to understand my statement is about YOU---Not "Marehan." Marehan do not need me to defend them and they certainly care even less about anything you have to think or say about them. My responses to YOU are about YOU the "individual" and why YOU are hateful.

That someone thinks, even as a cutesy joke, they should "displace" fellow human beings and/or so that those victims then go on to "displace" a 3rd group of people---which they do not neighbor--- so the 2ndly victims are uprooted from their homes, roots, and heritage to realize a deviant resentment about a presently and historically non-existent conceptualization about your "entitlement" to other people's homes is the definition of motivation by destruction and negativity.

I am not going to "advice" you on you, but I will reiterate for the umpteenth time please do not impose this on my attention or interaction.

I insist.

I also am being very strong in language because I have hope and interest that it may motivate you to lose interest and desire in these types of provocations.

In your imaginations you claim Wardheer, Qabridahar,Goday, and now Jigjiga yet you are upset with me saying that Marehans can not cross this and this line of the border since it falls upon Ogaden lands.

Bloodshed & violence is the result of claiming ones land. Do not talk a big game if you are not willing to kill or be killed for such piece of land.

If you insist that I am a hateful person, you are no different. I’m just an Ogaden who’s looking out for the interest of his people. If Marehan like yourself dream about displacing Makahiils from their land and posting threads on Somalinet victimizing them what kind of response do you think you will get?!

At last my idea of establishing Reer Abdille’s expansion into Doolo can be agreed upon by all Ogaden. Makaahiil as strong as they are can not be the only Ogaden clan defending the eastern borders. For example our Majeerten Kabalax brothers have been known in the past to settle many Majeerten & Harti subclans in Northern Mudug region to establish their dominance against neighboring Marehan & Hawiye/Irir tribes.

Marehans fear Reer Abdille in Jubbaland. I believe it’s time for them to neighbor Reer Abdille in Burgeesoole

If you qualify the irrelevant usage of "Jigjiga" in that statement above you as a "claim," than that explains your understanding or usage of "claim" when you accuse me of "claiming" your land or my "claim" of non-Marehan land.

Furthermore this is my actual fact-check of a Marehan forumer who recently claimed Shilabo "settlement" just because Marehan live in Shilabo "territory."

Shilabo the settlement =/= Shilabo the territory.

There has "never" been a Marehan "community" living in Shilaabo "settlement," although Marehan are both from and are the absolute majority of Shilaabo "territory.


..

Whereas Marehan has no memorable history, at all, in the physical space that Shilaabo "settlement" was built on top of along with the fact the bulk of the southern-most Marehan of Shilabo "territory" did actually migrate.

https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 7#p5034813

Your comments about me or even attempts to provide "equivalence" between things I say (which are true,but which you do not like) and your profoundly disturbing "hate speech" is the definition of "gaslighting."

You are this "<" and I am that ">."

Don't even try again.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

I will try it. Because you bombed Gedo since 2011. Your homeland illegally invaded and tried to take our blue ocean resources. Our army has been cockblocked for 30 years. I do hate you. So does the Muslim world for your numerous coups since the ‘80s. You have no leg to stand on. You have millions of victims in your 8 years while you tried to gaslight and pin what those two did. You’re not innocent at all. And I never claimed innocent. Because I’m not the one who cares for power and marriage. And the fake image of family. And the beauty is this. You can’t use heritage and the sins of the father on Muslims there’s no original sin in our worldview. We despise you. Because you’re Protestant and anglocentric

[Gubbet]

In your imaginations you claim Wardheer, Qabridahar,Goday, and now Jigjiga yet you are upset with me saying that Marehans can not cross this and this line of the border since it falls upon Ogaden lands.

Bloodshed & violence is the result of claiming ones land. Do not talk a big game if you are not willing to kill or be killed for such piece of land.

If you insist that I am a hateful person, you are no different. I’m just an Ogaden who’s looking out for the interest of his people. If Marehan like yourself dream about displacing Makahiils from their land and posting threads on Somalinet victimizing them what kind of response do you think you will get?!

At last my idea of establishing Reer Abdille’s expansion into Doolo can be agreed upon by all Ogaden. Makaahiil as strong as they are can not be the only Ogaden clan defending the eastern borders. For example our Majeerten Kabalax brothers have been known in the past to settle many Majeerten & Harti subclans in Northern Mudug region to establish their dominance against neighboring Marehan & Hawiye/Irir tribes.

Marehans fear Reer Abdille in Jubbaland. I believe it’s time for them to neighbor Reer Abdille in Burgeesoole

Finally, I am bored with this nonsense and you taking my personal comments about you as anything to do with "Marehan."

1 sub-clan of Marehan faced 20 million Borana Oromo and snatched himself back into a territory right in Negele 2X the size of all Ogaden lands in Somalia and/or equivalent to all Habar Gidir lands in Somalia.

Marehan will have you or any other Somali "clan" disappear from the face of the earth---down to the last man---before any of your nonsense faces the light of day.

Keep it pushing with this nonsense. I don't care for it.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

In your imaginations you claim Wardheer, Qabridahar,Goday, and now Jigjiga yet you are upset with me saying that Marehans can not cross this and this line of the border since it falls upon Ogaden lands.

Bloodshed & violence is the result of claiming ones land. Do not talk a big game if you are not willing to kill or be killed for such piece of land.

If you insist that I am a hateful person, you are no different. I’m just an Ogaden who’s looking out for the interest of his people. If Marehan like yourself dream about displacing Makahiils from their land and posting threads on Somalinet victimizing them what kind of response do you think you will get?!

At last my idea of establishing Reer Abdille’s expansion into Doolo can be agreed upon by all Ogaden. Makaahiil as strong as they are can not be the only Ogaden clan defending the eastern borders. For example our Majeerten Kabalax brothers have been known in the past to settle many Majeerten & Harti subclans in Northern Mudug region to establish their dominance against neighboring Marehan & Hawiye/Irir tribes.

Marehans fear Reer Abdille in Jubbaland. I believe it’s time for them to neighbor Reer Abdille in Burgeesoole

Finally, I am bored with this nonsense and you taking my personal comments about you as anything to do with "Marehan."

1 sub-clan of Marehan faced 20 million Borana Oromo and snatched himself back into a territory right in Negele 2X the size of all Ogaden lands in Somalia and/or equivalent to all Habar Gidir lands in Somalia.

Marehan will have you or any other Somali "clan" disappear from the face of the earth---down to the last man---before any of your nonsense faces the light of day.

Keep it pushing with this nonsense. I don't care for it.
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Tell the laangaab luo Merry Christmas. And I do despise you for twin