Somalia's "Sexual Crimes" moment is clearly here. Further "silence" on this is unacceptable "cowardice."

[Gubbet]

We don't like to "talk" about this. And we especially don't even like to be made "aware" of it----in public; but very clearly there is a very historically significant moment asserting itself.

It is one of this historical cardinal truths about "when" the right time is for "something."

My answer to that is "when you even need to ask that question."

Continued silence by political, government "offices" is perhaps understandable since they neither have the political capital nor "supremacy in authority" to risk an ideological or socio-religious attack that would be in the favor of Shabaab.

What is not acceptable is the absolute, radio silence by "religious" leaders and civil society, particularly the ones with "women" and/or "children" in their groups.

With regards to religious leaders---they are supposed to be voices for "morality"---for societal "guidance"---for the "wellbeing of the community."

It is not 1 incident..or 2...or 3. Thisnl is very clearly a moment asserting itself to compel Somali society to finally "address" what would not surprise me to be a proliferation of wide-cycle and endemic sexual crimes offenses running with egregiously unchecked impunity.

Throughout the universal extent of human societies on earth, sexual crimes occur even right in the same household in which both victim and perpetrator call "home."

Sexual crimes occur at the same rate and probability as "theft."

We recognize theft and punish thieves --- why are we powerless before sexual crimes and cowards infront of rapists and child molesters as Somalis?

Sh Umal starts "national conversations," with serious equities to be impacted, based on Khadijo Diriye wearing "pants" and he does it completely having framed himself under "protecting society and family."


Well this is the 4, 5, or 6 very public exposure of a very widespread problem causing unimaginable harm, abuse, and pain to "society and family" namely the rape, molestation, and assult coming under sexual crimes categorization.

Somalis said "waxii la qariyo qurun baa ku jira." [What's hidden is Spoiled.]

Qurun baa Soomaali ka buuxda! Wallahul cadiim!

Someone in one of these either religious or civil society groups needs to Stand.

Otherwise, I say UNSomalis and UKSomalia and USSomalis, if there was ever a moment to start one of those "social" campaigns which even I have previously criticized as preemptive, them this would be the moment I not only support those ad campains but pass it along myself.

At the least---anything to get this cowardly society to finally be pushed to acknowledge the impunity to abuse their own families and children is what they have allowed to manifest by their cowardice in front of sexual crimes offenses.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Chelsea, you’re British. Stop larping as Somali women. It’s their equity. If I discipline my own. It’s cuz I’m the C. Black or white you’re copying the original originals. 1 of 1. He’s Juventus protected.

[Gubbet]

Somalia needs "Prosecutors." People trained, interested in, motivated by,, and officially responsible for "attacking" criminal offenses against the State, society, and the Individual.

We need a specially targeted program or something to "birth" the institution of professional prosecution.

That's why the "Rule of Law" or "Justice Reform" is practically non-existent---we do not have a professional body or institution implicated in the "structure" of law enforcement.

Remember, before Defense comes into the picture, the Prosecutor must have triggered process start ("charged") an offense against the "public" ("a crime") was committed by an entity (suspect,/defendent).

The Prosecutor does that. The Prosecutor is the "key" to the entire process of "Justice."

The Prosecutor also sets Deterrence and Prevention through law enforcement.

That Kangaroo nothingburger called "High Tribunal" (Maxkamada Sare) and Xeer Ilaaliyaha are mere letters forming words.

We don't have an "institution of professional prosecution."

And we wonder why we are lawless.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Somalia needs "Prosecutors." People trained, interested in, motivated by,, and officially responsible for "attacking" criminal offenses against the State, society, and the Individual.

We need a specially targeted program or something to "birth" the institution of professional prosecution.

That's why the "Rule of Law" or "Justice Reform" is practically non-existent---we do not have a professional body or institution implicated in the "structure" of law enforcement.

Remember, before Defense comes into the picture, the Prosecutor must have triggered process start ("charged") an offense against the "public" ("a crime") was committed by an entity (suspect,/defendent).

The Prosecutor does that. The Prosecutor is the "key" to the entire process of "Justice."

The Prosecutor also sets Deterrence and Prevention through law enforcement.

That Kangaroo nothingburger called "High Tribunal" (Maxkamada Sare) and Xeer Ilaaliyaha are mere letters forming words.

We don't have an "institution of professional prosecution."

And we wonder why we are lawless.

Fair enough don’t attack the man who called out numerous rapes and atrocities with the last 5 years and used a powerful platform to empower women instead of attacking them or their rights. The irony is this though. When the East gives its 30% quota all is well and does its due diligence in promoting rights for its women. But nothing when a donkey is in power. As it looks now Damul Jadeed is extremely divisive and when we tell them to move more carefully in the national interest. It’s cuz they the French bootlickers. We’re the villains. Time cover for the man whose team who nearly sold most resource rich blue ocean in the most fertile part of the country for pennies but not the man who fought tooth and nail for it against all odds and lost political capital and imo his re-election just go retain for Somalia, the country surrounded by hyenas. Remember they are the permanent political class. Not the plutocracy. The plutocracy is the camel owners. The central plains miscalculate the hatred the East has for its arrogance. That’s why I’m MAV C

[Murax]

Gubbet I’m a little bit lost. Is this about that bill the Sacdiya lady and others brought?


If I’m not mistaken the uproar was not about punishment for the horrific rape epidemic in Somalia, but there was other incendiary, indecent clauses in it being snuck in sneakily.


Let me know if this is about something different

[Shantabaq]

No need to blame "Somalia". MJs need to answer why, like the pakis in the UK, they feel the need to rape young girls.

[barbarossa]

Gubbet I’m a little bit lost. Is this about that bill the Sacdiya lady and others brought?


If I’m not mistaken the uproar was not about punishment for the horrific rape epidemic in Somalia, but there was other incendiary, indecent clauses in it being snuck in sneakily.


Let me know if this is about something different

Murax, the topic may have something to do with the alleged perpetrators of a recent gang rape incident in Baardheere..

https://www.hiiraan.ca/news4/2022/Dec/1 ... pdateFront

[Gubbet]

Gubbet I’m a little bit lost. Is this about that bill the Sacdiya lady and others brought?


If I’m not mistaken the uproar was not about punishment for the horrific rape epidemic in Somalia, but there was other incendiary, indecent clauses in it being snuck in sneakily.


Let me know if this is about something different

Murax, the topic may have something to do with the alleged perpetrators of a recent gang rape incident in Baardheere..

https://www.hiiraan.ca/news4/2022/Dec/1 ... pdateFront

Correct.

I do not know why the individual above you has referenced particular clans or groups---which is another form of poisoning the discussion.

The individuals involved in Baardheere are different to the clan identified by Shantabaq. The individuals involved elsewhere are different to the clan of both. The point is sexual crimes occur in the same household. Put a sock in it about anything else.

Murax, l neither know or would be interested to know the particulars or details of "anything" that has Sacdiya Firimbi's name attached to it. I am talking about the half dozen (and growing) rape/molestation exposures surfacing every day at this point.

The fact that the perpetrators are so mindlessly "cocky" to display their faces still is perhaps the biggest indictment of the "impunity" sexual crimes have.

I am not necessarily a fan of Farxiya Kabayare's social media commentary, but this is her take on this issue---she says perhaps if even in "1" of these cases the perpetrators had been taken to the "firing squad" ("punished"), then maybe "something" can be done about this.

Disclaimer: The only reason for posting this is for the commentary starting at 03:11 where Kabayare highlights where "impunity" is coming from.

[Murax]

Gubbet,

I’m a big believer in root cause analysis. The truth is Somalis, and African Americans are the two most flagrant I’ve seen in terms of having zero value for their women. Look no further than Somalis having almost barbaric 600AD era views on having daughters and how that is distasteful. It’s not hard to imagine children that were not valued even while in the womb, be cause enough to not mind living in a society where girls are raped by the dozens daily.


Another result of the lack of valuing women, is family units not being in tact on a mass scale. The Father either divorced ran away, or is dead due to old age. Many Somali families in Somalia in a hut with zero Husbands, Fathers around. Think about it like I said it all comes to Somali Girls/Women being cheap in Somali’s eyes.