Puntland's move is a "reaction" to Las Anod; objective is to "arrest" traction on recognition of SSC "State"

[Gubbet]

It is amazing. Just yesterday I was writing about "reactionarism" as the single continuing thread in Puntland national policy.

And less than 24 hours later, I received information from a source with iron clad access and reputation that this is all about "Las Anod."

1. Deni is without influence in current national politics.
2. The Las Anod development is a public relation bonanza for SSC groups and self-determination.
3. Dhulbahante showing highly matured and organized readiness for this moment geniusly implicated "Fiqi Shinni" which has immediately put down the "Irir" mumblings while turning the entire Cayr clan in Benadir to compel HG and Hiraab to turn 180° on Las Anod.

Everything else is left unsaid.

[MrSinister]

The same source that told you sadaq john is a crisis actor?

[Gubbet]

The same source that told you sadaq john is a crisis actor?

No. No one told me that.

[theyuusuf143]

Puntland will always block SSC recognition because it's against their constitution and large number of dhulbahante actually prefer puntland over khaatumo for economy reasons. Dhulbahante will never agree inuu lugaha dhan isugu dudo, kuwa puntland markay khaatumo muquuniyaana somaliland baa yagana Ka dhirbaaxaysa.

Game noocaasa oo star war ahbay bahashu gelaysa. nimanka dhulbahante cirkooda iyo hayntoodu isma le,eka intooda caqliga u sxb Ka ahi kama maarmaan Somaliland iyo puntland , inta caadifadaysan waa in yaroo aan concept ba Ka haysan dawladnimada iyo qaabkay u shaqayso .

[Khalid Ali]

Ssc cannot have a federal state first thebqurjiles have only about fourty percent of soool they inhabit the rest belongs to habaryoonis habrjeclo and fiqishini

Now what else. Hadi ba gobol dhan la siin laha it still would not be enough u need two region. Or more.


Third factor is hawiye would not entertain another darood state
Second majeerteen doesn’t want a state between them and somaliland. And somaliland claims all it’s territory


So it will not fly

[original dervish]

That SSC is being talked about in Xamar, Garowe and Hargeisa proves that the state is serious.

Galmudug is only 1.5 provinces.

Whether or not SSC is established remains to be seen.
However, Dhulbahante people and regions are being taken seriously for the first time in decades.

[Gubbet]

Yusuf & Khalid, I don't know if you guys are capable of "reading" Somali political tenperature, but SSC the "concept" regardless of final form "wey boqrantahay" or has received "investiture" It is only waiting for the "Caleemo Saar" or "coronation."

[mahoka]

Yusuf & Khalid, I don't know if you guys are capable of "reading" Somali political tenperature, but SSC the "concept" regardless of final form "wey boqrantahay" or has received "investiture" It is only waiting for the "Caleemo Saar" or "coronation."

So why did your leader farmaajo tell the woman from lascanood that he can’t give her an answer?

Stop using the poor dhulo sxb, it’s cruel


I personally want SL to have nothing to do with dhulo but that is dependent on hargeisa-Mogadishu settlement in which Mogadishu gets darod lands in SL while SL gets its aqoonsi from Mogadishu. Until a settlement like this is reached, love are staying

[MrSinister]

Yusuf & Khalid, I don't know if you guys are capable of "reading" Somali political tenperature, but SSC the "concept" regardless of final form "wey boqrantahay" or has received "investiture" It is only waiting for the "Caleemo Saar" or "coronation."

So why did your leader farmaajo tell the woman from lascanood that he can’t give her an answer?

Stop using the poor dhulo sxb, it’s cruel


I personally want SL to have nothing to do with dhulo but that is dependent on hargeisa-Mogadishu settlement in which Mogadishu gets darod lands in SL while SL gets its aqoonsi from Mogadishu. Until a settlement like this is reached, love are staying

Does mogadisho control any lands in SSC?

[skywalker25]

Yusuf & Khalid, I don't know if you guys are capable of "reading" Somali political tenperature, but SSC the "concept" regardless of final form "wey boqrantahay" or has received "investiture" It is only waiting for the "Caleemo Saar" or "coronation."

So why did your leader farmaajo tell the woman from lascanood that he can’t give her an answer?

Stop using the poor dhulo sxb, it’s cruel


I personally want SL to have nothing to do with dhulo but that is dependent on hargeisa-Mogadishu settlement in which Mogadishu gets darod lands in SL while SL gets its aqoonsi from Mogadishu. Until a settlement like this is reached, love are staying

Does mogadisho control any lands in SSC?

Its funny those who champion the ''new found freedom'' for the people of las anood, would rather be killed by tar being thrown at them, give the people of Somaliland the same options....

We see. Wolf in sheep's clothing and the shepherd shall stay vigilant and leave the moral compass at home..

[Gubbet]

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Yusuf & Khalid, I don't know if you guys are capable of "reading" Somali political tenperature, but SSC the "concept" regardless of final form "wey boqrantahay" or has received "investiture" It is only waiting for the "Caleemo Saar" or "coronation."

So why did your leader farmaajo tell the woman from lascanood that he can’t give her an answer?

Stop using the poor dhulo sxb, it’s cruel

Farmajo gave a perfectly legitimate answer which Reer SSC themselves all expressed recognition.

The only people who ever bring that up are the people opposed to SSC because it is manipulation.

Farmajo was President of Somalia, particularly pre-Las Anod development.

The system we agreed to underpinning reestablishment of a recognized Federal Government specifically unempowers him from "compelling" a decision of his own from Villa Somalia.

Somaliland is a complicated issue which persists through every single administration and president we have had since civil war---BECAUSE it is not a decision that can be effectuated by a "single" side.

Neither can Somaliland legitimately separate herself from Somalia regardless of whatever unitary declaration from Hargeisa thus far and neither can Somalia legitimately incorporate it back to Somalia regardless of whatever Mogadishu says or does.

So Somaliland has its own "representation" in Hargeisa unrecognized by Somalia and Somalia has its own "Somaliland representation" (of all clans Isaaq, Gudabiirsi, Harti, even Ciise) in Mogadishu unrecognized by Somaliland.

This is an issue that can only be resolved "mutually" by all accounts apparent now to everyone including both sides given their participation in multiple attempts at "talks" thus far.

This is further complicated by Federalism as the system of government which is what a President of Somalia presides over (his basic authority) & the presence of Puntland as a constituent and even founding federal member state "claiming" and even having "administered" Laas Caanood during Abdullahi Yusuf.

And even more, SSC elders and community have been implicated in both substantiations of Somaliland and Puntland claims over Las Caanood. For example, the highest traditional Garadship particpation in Shirka Boorama that built Somaliland as well the Garowe Conference that built Puntland.

Similarly the aspirations of SSC during Farmaajo were publicly still held imprisoned by monopolization of representation by political entities such as Xaabsade and Xaglatoosiye for example who had a history of switching sides.

All of this is SSC before "Las Anod" development.

That was the "fall of Berlin wall" moment which is what makes SSC a pre and post-Las Anod uprising.

Farmajo's answer was the answer of someone who cared but had no power of authority to do what was beyond his control.

Someone who cares is not gimmicky, cheap, and fake with you. People who care are real and honest with each other.

Farmajo's concern and care for SSC can substantively be judged from the fact it was the first time Federal appropriation to SSC was not wired through Garowe or even expressed in deference to Hargeisa. The public works like roads rehabilitated and social services established from Buuhoodle to Badhan speak for themselves.

Finally, the young woman who asked the question herself publicly stated his answer satisfied her and even sobered her to the reality facing SSC which said the "trigger" for a change of status for SSC could only really be pulled by Rer SSC first.

The womb must trigger "labor" before birth.

They pulled that trigger in January of 2023.

It was called Las Anod uprising.

[skywalker25]

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Yusuf & Khalid, I don't know if you guys are capable of "reading" Somali political tenperature, but SSC the "concept" regardless of final form "wey boqrantahay" or has received "investiture" It is only waiting for the "Caleemo Saar" or "coronation."

So why did your leader farmaajo tell the woman from lascanood that he can’t give her an answer?

Stop using the poor dhulo sxb, it’s cruel

Farmajo gave a perfectly legitimate answer which Reer SSC themselves all expressed recognition.

The only people who ever bring that up are the people opposed to SSC because it is manipulation.

Farmajo was President of Somalia, particularly pre-Las Anod development.

The system we agreed to underpinning reestablishment of a recognized Federal Government specifically unempowers him from "compelling" a decision of his own from Villa Somalia.

Somaliland is a complicated issue which persists through every single administration and president we have had since civil war---BECAUSE it is not a decision that can be effectuated by a "single" side.

Neither can Somaliland legitimately separate herself from Somalia regardless of whatever unitary declaration from Hargeisa thus far and neither can Somalia legitimately incorporate it back to Somalia regardless of whatever Mogadishu says or does.

So Somaliland has its own "representation" in Hargeisa unrecognized by Somalia and Somalia has its own "Somaliland representation" (of all clans Isaaq, Gudabiirsi, Harti, even Ciise) in Mogadishu unrecognized by Somaliland.

This is an issue that can only be resolved "mutually" by all accounts apparent now to everyone including both sides given their participation in multiple attempts at "talks" thus far.

This is further complicated by Federalism as the system of government which is what a President of Somalia presides over (his basic authority) & the presence of Puntland as a constituent and even founding federal member state "claiming" and even having "administered" Laas Caanood during Abdullahi Yusuf.

And even more, SSC elders and community have been implicated in both substantiations of Somaliland and Puntland claims over Las Caanood. For example, the highest traditional Garadship particpation in Shirka Boorama that built Somaliland as well the Garowe Conference that built Puntland.

Similarly the aspirations of SSC during Farmaajo were publicly still held imprisoned by monopolization of representation by political entities such as Xaabsade and Xaglatoosiye for example who had a history of switching sides.

All of this is SSC before "Las Anod" development.

That was the "fall of Berlin wall" moment which is what makes SSC a pre and post-Las Anod uprising.

Farmajo's answer was the answer of someone who cared but had no power of authority to do what was beyond his control.

Someone who cares is not gimmicky, cheap, and fake with you. People who care are real and honest with each other.

Farmajo's concern and care for SSC can substantively be judged from the fact it was the first time Federal appropriation to SSC was not wired through Garowe or even expressed in deference to Hargeisa. The public works like roads rehabilitated and social services established from Buuhoodle to Badhan speak for themselves.

Finally, the young woman who asked the question herself publicly stated his answer satisfied her and even sobered her to the reality facing SSC which implicated the "trigger" for a change of status for SSC could only really be pulled by Rer SSC first.

They pulled that trigger in January of 2023.

It was called Las Anod uprising.

All water under a bridge. Rome, will be in as anood today, tomorrow and the foreseeable future. Our goal, our mission is built with facts on the ground. Yours is built on ''how I would like things to pan out in the future, then convince the readers this will be the most likely outcome''.

[MrSinister]

Skywalker

Who are you referring to ? I’ve said it before that if Isaaq want a separate country with their lands, i wouldn’t care. But you can’t force separatism on others.

[Gubbet]

Skywalker,

I support the self-determination of Hargeisa and I support the self-determination of Laas Caanood.

I internalize deeply, honestly, and without political reservation, motive, or bias the self-determination of human beings to have ownership over their aspirations.

You are the inverse to the man who wants to "control" your destiny.

I don't want to "control" your destiny and I do not support you "controlling" the destiny of the person next to you against their wishes.

[skywalker25]

Skywalker

Who are you referring to ? I’ve said it before that if Isaaq want a separate country with their lands, i wouldn’t care. But you can’t force separatism on others.

You as in individual ''maybe'' you as a part of a wider collective group, certainly not. Lets be honest with ourselves sxb. The issue in Las anood is a lose lose situation for you guys. Clearly this conflict will not benefit either of us, but our survival depends on us getting an out that includes las anood as part and parcel of somaliland. It's either that or die on that goal. The locals have nothing to lose, so a conflict is a win win situation. The wider Darods want you to get a bloody nose but expect little help. Wallahi my MJ friends dislike the Dhulbahnte more than Isaaq.