Abgal/Waesle mother in Mog: "Xaa Ismail Geelle ka galay Sool" & "Didn't you swear for flag Hassan Sheikh? Embarassment!"

[Gubbet]

For all the people who wonder how Somalis bridge such clannish divide and compact, unitary social affirmation, interconnectedness, and even intimacy---this is why;

A Hawiye/Abgaal/Wacaysle mother in Mogadishu---of HSM's very sub-branch within his Abgaal clan lambasts Hassan Sheikh for his irresponsible & even anti-constitutional, oath-breaking, impeachable treatment of the blue flag and unity revolution in Las Anod which has said no to leaving Somalia as a constituent member of former British Somaliland, the basis of which underlies the independence bid of modern Somaliland represented by Hargeisa.

This mother declares Hassan Mohamud as unfit to continue to rule because he is not showing himself to be a president for ALL of Somalia's people.

That's a Wacaysle Somali mother in Mogadishu --- Hassan Sheikh's "cousin" in Somali terms.



"Somali Noqo Ama Kursiga Ka Deg!"

"Be For All Of Somalia Or Step Down!"

[Khalid Ali]

Is hassan sheikh the president of the bunker
The president of abgaal
The president of the republic of somalia
The president of the Somali republic
Does hassan claim to be the ruler of five somaliweyn states
The president of the Somali federal of Somali republic
Is somaliland a member state of the federal republic did they sign to be part of the federalism

Was somaliland part of Somalia
Or Somalia part of somaliland
Or were both somalia and somaliland part of the former defunct Somali republic

It’s funny how see she says maxa ismaciil cumar geele ka kalay sool ina cumar geele clan is from awdal and how close is awdal to sool. Sool is closer to awdal then any other Abgaal village

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

This is why I say Mudulood is a qaran and a democratic clan. A waceysle woman criticizing HSM a waceysle man. Waa xadarada beesha caan ku tahay.

[Gubbet]

This is why I say Mudulood is a qaran and a democratic clan. A waceysle woman criticizing HSM a waceysle man. Waa xadarada beesha caan ku tahay.

Hopefully you will display such ability to recognize such grave error in judgement as that which caused that Wacaysle mother to strongly break with Wacaysle HSM on matters of significant principles.

[Khalid Ali]

No it’s just different opinion people can have different opinion people are not robots only laangaabs have robot mentality

[theyuusuf143]

Hassan sheekh maxamuud listens this , not islaan yaroo propagandada daarod run mooday. Ma jiro Cid daarood Ka neceb midnimada somalida. https://fb.watch/iryRYPIHBj/

[Kees70]

Lol, since when did Somalia's Politics revolve around what an individual says especially an "Waceysle" woman who God knows her husband and children could be darood.

Anyway President HSM has an astute intellectuals as his inner circle who will advise him what's best for country Somalia and he will listen well

[original dervish]

To be fair to Hsm he has come out and called for a peaceful resolution to the crisis. I can't see what else he can do.

There is a vocal minority online that can barely contain their excitement at the prospect of war in the North.

Either they're idiots or wicked or both.
This kind of bloodthirsty rhetoric is one of the main reasons Somalia is a shiithole after 30+ years.

[Khalid Ali]

Voltage has been googeling lately abgaal woman being anti hassan sheikh ahhahaahha

[mahoka]

Her husband and kids are darod - let’s leave the women out of it ya darod - we can video darod wives in burco and ceerigabo expressing their dislike for the darod terrorists who took over lascanood

[Smile-LiKe-SuN-RiSE]

I thought Abgaals had reer xamar..accent

[Khalid Ali]

Abgaal are the only clan in Somalia that have a distinct accent

[Theprodigy]

Abgaal are the only clan in Somalia that have a distinct accent

depends. Abgaal subs such as harti and wacbudhan ( the S/Dhexe and Banadir abgaals) have the distinct xaayow accent. waceysle from Galgaduud and mudug have the average central Somalia accent

[Gubbet]

Abgaal are the only clan in Somalia that have a distinct accent

depends. Abgaal subs such as harti and wacbudhan ( the S/Dhexe and Banadir abgaals) have the distinct xaayow accent. waceysle from Galgaduud and mudug have the average central Somalia accent

It is not called Xaayoow and Khalid is also wrong.

For example, people think "central" means a "reer" Mudug speech variation which does not exist or "northern" means a "reer" Waqooyi speech variation which does not exist.

Language really interests me and having done my own deep dive into it for a long time (nothing "expert" implicating) it is fascinating what I have come to understand.

There is no "Abgaal" speech. It is really "central" which is from Hobyo and south Gaalkacyo to Filtu in Liban or Wajeer in Kenya.

There is also no "Rer Mudug" speech---the Marehan in Caabudwaaq speech variation is the same as Buuhoodle vs next door Guriceel or even Hobyo.

Similarly the Buuhoodle speech is closer to Garbahaareey than it is to Baligubaadle next door in Togdheer or even Gebilay.

The "cadence" is what people think of speech when they say "accent" which, to human ear, makes Las Anod seem to be a speech variation closer to Burco and Caabudwaaq to Hobyo and Warsheikh to Benadir.

But that's really not the definition of speech or "dialect/variation." Think of it as the difference between "sprachbund" and "diffusion." Sprachbund are group of unrelated (as not from 1 origins) dialects which, because of contact and proximity, have borrowed and exchanged until it seems they resemble each other. Well no, they don't. Rather what is being noticed is the exchange or the shared features not the actual two dialects in their holistic, total capacity. Diffusion is the opposite. It means a dialect that was 1 unit which has then because of evolution, impact, and over time has come to "diffuse" into different dialects.

Baligubadle-Buuhoodle = Sprachbund
Buuhoodle-Abudwaq = Diffusion

Abudwaq-Hobyo = Sprachbund
Hobyo-Warsheikh = Diffusion

The speech of someone from south Gaalkacyo with a cadence so strongly similar to somone in north Gaalkacyo will still display this differences;

N. Galkacyo will note "J" as "Ch," like Abudwaq like Buhoodle like Garbahaarey whereas the speech of S. Gaalkacyo will note "J" as "Jj" like Guriceel like Ceelbuur and like Warsheikh.

The Buuhoodle speech will contain a "present perfect tense" of "hayaa" as in "soconahayaa" which is intermediary between "soconaya" (I am walking) and "socday" (I have walked). Socona"hayaa" (I am in a STATE of walking) essentially you have "started" walking (soconayaa) and have not finished it (socday), but may not even be walking at the moment at all and are just resting. "Hayaa" is that transition or in a STATE of walking. Baligubadle does not have that "present perfect tense" and nor Burco and Gebiley, but Las Qoray does, Abudwak does, Garbahaareey does. Similarly Hobyo doesn't like Ceelbuur and Warsheikh.

These linguistic features show Buuhoodle and Garbahaarey formed from 1 speech variation and transfused over time, but certainly even developed those features as part of their own unique transfusion.

For example "hayaa" correlates to historical heavy migration movement. It is travel from Point A to Point B, but when you weren't in A and have not reached B as a culturally and socio-historically huge issue affecting communication in group, it could be theorized "hayaa" formed uniquely to confront a challenge uniquely affecting a group---so the state at rest developed.

Another thing is tone in variation which is even of longer example as sort of linguistic "artifact", the pivot "u" is very prominent in Hobyo/Guriceel-Warsheikh/Beled-Wayne in comparison to the pivot "i" (Buuhoodle/Las Qoray-Garbahaareey/Abudwak) to the pivot "y" (Baligubadle/Burco-Gebilay/Berbera). You can still see the original base in u-saga v. i-saga vs y-saga.

Etc etc etc

The last 100 years, particularly since 1970's after the official adaptation of a national writing script and the huge proliferation of written and broadcast communication and literature there has been a huge force or influence that has stopped or led to a decline in the natural process of evolution or transfusion of the Somali language, aka "diversification", and has pulled it towards homogenization aka "standardization."

The Somali language is less diverse today than it was 100 years ago---can you believe it?

Someone in Djibouti and someone in Afgooye are MORE able to understand today and/or share similar features in speech variation than in the past.

If the Somali language was 1 speech heading to 100 different variations we are today the inverse---we are different variations heading BACK into 1 speech.

We are all headed to coming to speak like each other.

So there is no Xaayoow accent and the Abgaal speech variation is but 1 form of a larger variation shared in different transfusions from Hobyo to Filtu which is grounded in an original Somali dialect with other speech variations.

Sprachbund, or effect by proximity in cadence and the likes, just makes you think a small subset of adopted or exchanged features represent the speech variation in totality.

Pay closely the most southern Gaalkacyo-esque speaker will clip the tone at "u-gab-ba-xeey-naa" the same as the Kaaraan-es north Mogadishu speaker whereas Balanbale will clip it at "u-ga bax-eey-n-aa" the same as Buuhoodle while Burco will clip it at "uu- gab-axeeyn-aa" the same as Borama.

There is something to clans if it is not blood written shown by speech variation that says they really did start out as original base units formed in one location within the Somali speaking people.