Video: HSM'S Sultan of Abgal/Waesle/Ali Gaaf "HSM fix bad blood with our Marehan "nephews" & extend xaal."

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Video: HSM'S Sultan of Abgal/Waesle/Ali Gaaf "HSM fix bad blood with our Marehan "nephews" & extend xaal."

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Hassan Sheikh is Abgaal/Wacaysle/Cali Gaaf and his tribal Sultan has recorded a public request to HSM saying the recent bad blood created with Marehan is unfortunate and does not represent the historical & continuing relationship with their Marehan "nephews."

The Sultan references matriarch Halima Sufi Ali Kobdheer of Mudulood/Daarandoole/Abgaal/Wacbuudhan/Daa'uud heritage who, having been one of the 3 wives of Ugaas Diini of Darod/Marehan, mothered the large Marehan clan uterine alliance of "Bah Daarandoole" grouping Rer Kooshin Diini, Rer Nuur Diini, Rer Shirwac Diini, Rer Farah Diini, Rer Mohamud Diini, Rer Warfaa Diini.

Gen Mohamed Siad Barre, Col Barre Hiiraale, and Kulane Jiis are some famous members of Marehan/bah-Daarandoole descended maternally from Halima Sufi Ali Kobdheer.

The Sultan requests his tribal subject HSM to immediately and ernestly make amends, even advises him to extend "xaal" (restitution) as a gesture of good will.

The Sultan of Cali Gaaf says honor and goodness commands that traditional leadership now interfere to "arrest" the bad blood created with their Marehan "nephews."

The Sultan says HSM's political slogan of "Somali Heshiis ah Dunidana La Heshiis ah" (Somalis at peace with each other & at peace with the world) requires 1st that he, HSM, make peace with Marehan before anything else or even the "world."

The Sultan of Cali Gaaf requests HSM to bequeath a property as "xaal" to the children of Gen Mohamed Siad Barre he originally bequeathed to the Somali people; the former property of Somali Immigrations which has recently moved to new property. The Sultan says it would be an act of profound goodwill to bequeath the property back to the former leader's household in the interest of confronting bad blood which has formed.

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Re: Video: HSM'S Sultan of Abgal/Waesle/Ali Gaaf "HSM fix bad blood with our Marehan "nephews" & extend xaal."

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Stop trolling bro. :lol:
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Re: Video: HSM'S Sultan of Abgal/Waesle/Ali Gaaf "HSM fix bad blood with our Marehan "nephews" & extend xaal."

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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:18 am :dead:

Stop trolling bro. :lol:
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Re: Video: HSM'S Sultan of Abgal/Waesle/Ali Gaaf "HSM fix bad blood with our Marehan "nephews" & extend xaal."

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That guy is the Abgaal Dabcasar. The other day he was saying Abgaal's mother was a jareer woman callef Salaama Naasa dheer. :lol:
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AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:34 pm That guy is the Abgaal Dabcasar. The other day he was saying Abgaal's mother was a jareer woman callef Salaama Naasa dheer. :lol:
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I saw a post like that didn't know its the same guy. So you're saying this man is not the ali gaaf suldan?
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Re: Video: HSM'S Sultan of Abgal/Waesle/Ali Gaaf "HSM fix bad blood with our Marehan "nephews" & extend xaal."

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Sbashi wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 4:14 pm
AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 2:34 pm That guy is the Abgaal Dabcasar. The other day he was saying Abgaal's mother was a jareer woman callef Salaama Naasa dheer. :lol:
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I saw a post like that didn't know its the same guy. So you're saying this man is not the ali gaaf suldan?
There's no such thing as suldaanka Cali Gaaf. :lol:
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Re: Video: HSM'S Sultan of Abgal/Waesle/Ali Gaaf "HSM fix bad blood with our Marehan "nephews" & extend xaal."

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It seems there is a traditional head of Wacaysle universally recognized called Shiddo, however, having looked through various discussions within the community of Cali Gaaf, there would seem to be an implication within the clan that allows for the jurisdiction of this man to be a subject of legitimate discussion.

In that case he is not like "Dabcasar" who, although being a grandson of the founder of Caabudwaaq, Haji Dabcasar and therefore from one of the most prestigious households within the MX, never claimed authority or institutional stature of any kind nor was accorded such in any community deliberation.

It is more like the gentleman aproximates the late Ugaas Maxamed Weli Sh Ahmed Nur (AUN) (Marehan/Rer Garaad)

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A man who claimed a title of Ugaas within Marehan which did not emanate from existing recognized chieftaincy. If one asked a typical Marehan, including myself for a long time, they would have disavowed his claim.

However, long after I had even stated that disavowal, I came to write this on the forum myself referencing my own father educating me on the matter;
Even Ugaas Mohamed Weli Sheekh Axmed, I used to think it was bs until first my dad and then other Marehans told me he really is Ugaas. Apparently in the FIRST batch of Marehan Guri to move away, rer Garaad guy who was the ancestor of Mohamed Weli was the head. When they were moving along south through what is Ethiopia today and entered present-day Somalia through what is Bakool, at Xuddur area Mohamed Wali's ancestor was chosen as the chief of the Marehan group before moving west toward Luuq.

Mohamed Wali's father was therefore an Ugaas as was his grandfather and great-grandfather.
What was poignant about my father, in effect recognizing Ugas Mohamed Wali's claim along side the existing chieftaincy---which is what his correction of me amounted to---is that my father is Marehan/Rer Dini/Bah-Xawaadle---the actual house wherein the chieftaincy resides (Rer Ugaas Shermaarke with full brothers Rer Siyaad Ugaas and Rer Warsame Ugaas form the Bah-Xawaadle chieftaincy of Sade).

So Ugas Mohamed Wali, who was not a recognized member of the 135 elders recognized by 4.5 even, was with legitimacy more profound and beyond piece of paper---he was situated in a legitimate discussion within Sade that guaranteed a basis for the jurisdiction he claimed.

To that effect, if you had asked my father, or even ask me this second---yes, Mohamed Wali Sh Ahmed Nur died as an Ugas Mohamed Wali Sh Ahmed Nuur of Sade.

The situation here is even less complex as this gentleman is not claiming a seat indicating the need for recognition from the whole of Abgaal and nor even the whole of Wacaysle.

His claim is merely limited to the scope requiring recognition only from Cali Gaaf and, certainly, from within Cali Gaaf that recognition shows to be compromised in the favor of his claim to jurisdiction being of legitimate consideration.

You must allow Cali Gaaf, singularly without any infringement, the feedom, space, and independence to own the right and privilege of resolving or rather adjudicating matters regarding their internal institutional affairs.
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