There is no Marehan/Harti fighting in Las Anod. There is Dhulbahante in control over Las Anod never having lost it.

[Gubbet]

There needs to be a clarification about this fact.

1. Dhulbahante has not asked for Darod fighters. No one has gone to Boqor Burhan in Bari. No one has gone to Caabudwaaq as some have hinted.

2. People go on Sahan when they are in dire straits---such as after suffering a setback or pressure that cannot be overcome alone. And they only go to call to attention when others are not aware of their circumstance.

A. Dhulbahante has not lost Las Anod. They have not even ceded an inch. They are the ones who have won the clashes so far. They have moved out of Las Anod and gained ground.

B. Every single pair of Somali eyes are not only aware of this situation but are following it in real time. No group of people are watching this even with the level of sustained focus and attention to detail as Darod.

3. Essentially Dhulbahante are winning a war that is important for them to win AS "Dhulbahante." They faced Muuse's attack. They stopped it. They overpowered it. They have chased it even back.

4.;Dhulbahante has not asked for fighters from any community. They were most closest to asking and Darod was most closest to sending BEFORE the first clash BEFORE Dhulbahante established he could take on Muuse.


4.5. However, and within perfectly understandable and even acceptable circumstances, Dhulbahante needed logistical support. He is not short on that as I have shown with the Marehan and Layl Kase support sent just two days ago with all kinds of similarl I am sure Harti and Majeerteen are providing him.

5. Fighting a DEFENSIVE WAR is not just about victory in the "moment." That is not even more than half of the "victory." The other half is DETERRENCE. You must be victorious on the battle field in such a way to establish a deterrence for the future.

6. Some of the most emotionally invested people in the Darod story at this time with the results of the battlefields so far are responding to the strategic threat posed by Dhulbahante instituting that "DETERRENCE." I would even argue this is emotionally unpalatable and existentially threatening for some.

7. Dhulbahante has been challenged. He has spectacularly prosecuted that challenge in such a way that so far leaves no doubt about the relevance of the "deterrence" he has implicated himself in putting down.

8. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT AND VITAL FOR HIM TO DO SO SINGULARLY AND INDEPENDENTLY.

9. If the circumstances change, Darod are all watching this intimately and all of them instinctively will "feel" it if their physical intervention is warranted.

10. Make 0 mistake ---the US "shelling" warning that just comes on the rolling 5th day is a "military" assessment that Dhulbahante is the "predicted" winner in the conflict and will even be "ascendent" over his affairs having "birthed" himself the forming "detterrance." They have reached the point to be confident about how this will all end before it has already ended and are establishing future relations with the new power over the disputed area. Wallahi.

P.S. 1 or two or individuals of non-Dhulbahante origins capable of being locals, extended family,etc who have been identified as fighting is also irrelevant to larger point about "community entities" not sharing any of the 100% ownership and credit Dhulbahante has implicated himself on the battlefield and ownership over his affairs.

[skywalker25]

So you’ve gone from boomstick and victorious calls to dejected defeatist mindset. You’ve changed your tune. No surprise when you found out the reality on the ground is bigger than you can chew. You didn’t and never had the means to make any difference to the facts on the ground. Marexaan are a fly and Somaliland is an elephant. Bring your best man to the battlefield. If you don’t support them now it’s worse than saving face and leaving them to the onslaught they’re facing.

[theyuusuf143]

Nacdali haku dhacdo mareexaan , warya doofaaryahaw dhulmahante waxay la dagaalamayan nation isaaqa oo ay markii hore walaalo ahaayen. Waad uun barakacise maxaad tartay. Waanu idin caraynay oo idin caraynay xitaa waxaanu idin Nidhi dhuloos waanu xasuuqayna just to provoke you. Dhillaa idin dhasshay daarodaw. Hooyadina qabxad bay ahayd . Where is your 100 technicals gift.

[Khalid Ali]

What a load of Bullshit the nabadiids have been totally destroyed and defeated Walahi calacaalkoodi meleyn meysid they didn’t bother. Asking darood for help because darood isu na hiiiyo for god sake mj handed over Ogaden to Tigray. Their supposed darood brothers Ogaden bombs marexaan with Kenyan xiniyo
Majeerteen kills wasakhgali and calll them terrorist. Bal ya baaas eeh usi micini kara qurjiile. Bal no sheeg who Daaroodku wa reer Oromo iyo midgo isu tegey oo aan dhalasha ka dhaxayn no dhiig

[Gubbet]

[eliteSomali]

Somehow you keep making the situation in lascaanood about marehan.
This is like the third thread where you try to inject your clan in this conflict.

Truly embarrassing.

[Gubbet]

Somehow you keep making the situation in lascaanood about marehan.
This is like the third thread where you try to inject your clan in this conflict.

Truly embarrassing.

This is not about "MX" or me. You are sick---idiot. I just find you uninteresting and irrelevant to be honest so I am going to block you. Maybe then you will find some other reason to be on this forum other than passive-aggressively trailing me. Very unlikeable human being wallahi.

The topic can be about dog litter & he will find some justification to displace personal malice towards me. Fock off.

eliteSomali, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.

[eliteSomali]

^Stop injecting your sorry ass clan in everything man.
and stop crying, this is a public forum. I'll ignore you kulahaa. Are we in middle school all over?

[mahoka]

[Gubbet]

Dhulbahante liici maayo, dib-u-soco lugooyadiisa loodi maayo! Wallahi waxaan marag ma doonto ahayn Dhulbahante magaca uu maanta gacanta ku qortay will be the single most powerful brand name to replace the last single most powerful Somali brand name that had been targeted with censorship since 1991; Darwiish. Reerkaan waa Haqq u dirirse eebaana la jira!

[skywalker25]

Dhulbahante liici maayo, dib-u-soco lugooyadiisa loodi maayo! Wallahi waxaan marag ma doonto ahayn Dhulbahante magaca uu maanta gacanta ku qortay will be the single most powerful brand name to replace the last single most powerful Somali brand name that had been targeted with censorship since 1991; Darwiish. Reerkaan waa Haqq u dirirse eebaana la jira!

Why did you feel the need to scream. Do you think it will make your point more true?

Look at what you wrote, read it again. Even you don't believe a word you said.

The Darod and Dhulbahnte completely lost this one.

1/ Somaliland will truly feel like alien land to most Dhulbahnte. They will not be welcome or shown any warmth. The Same of Darod. You will really feel like your in a different country not your home anymore.
2/ The same goes for Xamar. Those in Mogdisho are watching this situation closely. They will have seen giving anything to Dhulbahnte or Darod by extension is a dangerous exercise that will only bite you on the ass at some point in the near future.
3/The Majerteen gain the most even though they did zero. Dhulbahnte will really more and more on them. They will bully them and give them nothing. Like they dont give anything to anyone else.
4/ The Isaaq will face west. The land between Somalia and Somaliland will be bandit country. We will militarize that whole region.

[Gubbet]

Sxb it is called "emphasis." It is actually a reflection of how strongly I feel about a point and want to impart that along with the actual point. I can definitely see how it might annoy some lol.

As for what you said, in the mid 90's the single largest group of foot soldiers even under Caydiid and base of USC militia was Cayr.

Cayr Col Shabeel was the abaanduule of USC, Caydiid's Himmler---the reason many don't know him nationally is because it was even a direct #1 target of ours to dispose of him, not even Aideed wallahi, but him Shabeel and we did quickly even in the early part of war. We disposed of him in the most cruel way possible---the other side couldn't even receive his body or bury him. They don't even know where he was buried to this very day. Similarly that same Cayr were the primary foot soldiers in the attempt against Caabudwaaq and Balanbale (exactly similarly to this Las Anod situation). They wanted to capture Balanbale first then Cabudwaq. We fought outside Balanbale town limits. Even women who could were allowed to carry. Feero Qumumux resulted from then which Cayr Jamstreet/many nicks on this forum once disclosed the amount of Cayr "orphans" Feero Qumumux created will continue a 1,000 year active hostilities against Marehan. [Google "Feero Qumumux" within this forum over the years; like this Las Anod situation in which THEY attacked US, it wasn't us attacking Guriceel or Hobyo].

The reason why I reference all of that...

...is we ended up signing end to activate combat with Cayr as a clan out of all USC group and we even infamously went into an fficial politico-security based military alliance with them in 1997 which came to be known as JVA (in order to transport military hardware/vehicles which had been facing Hawiye in C/waaq to use against Morgan iwho ended up backstabbing us in 1997 looking to be advantaged by the Ethiopians-Al Itihad-SNF firestorm in Gedo.)

Skywalker it is even you as Habar Jeclo that I would wager an arm and leg would be the first "Isaaq" community to reach peace with Dhullo after this conflict ends.

I predict you will even reach a new dispensation with them as the Isaaq to neighbor them as a bridge and link to everything Isaaq or west of them. Any Isaaq agreement or issue or proposition towards them and through them east to Somalia until God knows when will be deputized to you to make happen.

A Dhulbahante with agency and purpose east of you is a strength for you as Habar Jeclo even and Dhulbahante under compulsion and kept unfulfilled is a loss and weakness for you as Habar Jeclo.

Sxb "PROSPERITY" is not we keep things at 4 pieces of bread which I take by force 3.75/4 and throw 0.25/4 at you.

"PROSPERITY" is not "limiting."

"PROSPERITY" is a rising tide. It means I am making 4 pieces of bread and you are with agency to make the same. It means the land has 5, 6, 7,8 pieces of bread at which every increase the sum of what I am eating is greater than 3.75. You only gain.

Prosperity is "limitless."

Dhulbahante is your partner in prosperity that is why I firm believe this circumstance will not define your future.

This is just a moment of active hostilities.

Col & Nabad.

Nabad always replaces an occurrence of col.

Col baa kaa dhex guuxaysaa. Nabad will arrest it within you in the future.

That I am confident about.

[skywalker25]

Sxb it is called "emphasis." It is actually a reflection of how strongly I feel about a point and want to impart that along with the actual point. I can definitely see how it might annoy some lol.

As for what you said, in the mid 90's the single largest group of foot soldiers even under Caydiid and base of USC militia was Cayr.

Cayr Col Shabeel was the abaanduule of USC, Caydiid's Himmler---the reason many don't know him nationally is because it was even a direct #1 target of ours to dispose of him, not even Aideed wallahi, but him Shabeel and we did quickly even in the early part of war. We disposed of him in the most cruel way possible---the other side couldn't even receive his body or bury him. They don't even know where he was buried to this very day. Similarly that same Cayr were the primary foot soldiers in the attempt against Caabudwaaq and Balanbale (exactly similarly to this Las Anod situation). They wanted to capture Balanbale first then Cabudwaq. We fought outside Balanbale town limits. Even women who could were allowed to carry. Feero Qumumux resulted from then which Cayr Jamstreet/many nicks on this forum once disclosed the amount of Cayr "orphans" Feero Qumumux created will continue a 1,000 year active hostilities against Marehan. [Google "Feero Qumumux" within this forum over the years; like this Las Anod situation in which THEY attacked US, it wasn't us attacking Guriceel or Hobyo].

The reason why I reference all of that...

...is we ended up signing end to activate combat with Cayr as a clan out of all USC group and we even infamously went into an fficial politico-security based military alliance with them in 1997 which came to be known as JVA (in order to transport military hardware/vehicles which had been facing Hawiye in C/waaq to use against Morgan iwho ended up backstabbing us in 1997 looking to be advantaged by the Ethiopians-Al Itihad-SNF firestorm in Gedo.)

Skywalker it is even you as Habar Jeclo that I would wager an arm and leg would be the first "Isaaq" community to reach peace with Dhullo after this conflict ends.

I predict you will even reach a new dispensation with them as the Isaaq to neighbor them as a bridge and link to everything Isaaq or west of them. Any Isaaq agreement or issue or proposition towards them and through them east to Somalia until God knows when will be deputized to you to make happen.

A Dhulbahante with agency and purpose east of you is a strength for you as Habar Jeclo even and Dhulbahante under compulsion and kept unfulfilled is a loss and weakness for you as Habar Jeclo.

Sxb "PROSPERITY" is not we keep things at 4 pieces of bread which I take by force 3.75/4 and throw 0.25/4 at you.

"PROSPERITY" is not "limiting."

"PROSPERITY" is a rising tide. It means I am making 4 pieces of bread and you are with agency to make the same. It means the land has 5, 6, 7,8 pieces of bread at which every increase the sum of what I am eating is greater than 3.75. You only gain.

Prosperity is "limitless."

Dhulbahante is your partner in prosperity that is why I firm believe this circumstance will not define your future.

This is just a moment of active hostilities.

Col & Nabad.

Nabad always replaces an occurrence of col.

Col baa kaa dhex guuxaysaa. Nabad will arrest it within you in the future.

That I am confident about.

Sxb we’ve done all that we could for a dhulbahnte but they’re not bright people. They don’t know who’s enemy and who’s friend who has their best interest and who doesn’t. We did not actively seek to settle any scores with them as your neighbours did with you. We encouraged and supported them to take part in what is infact a race. You people speak of this cake as some socialist project ready to be shared equally. The truth is it’s a race and everybody is losing in the east. But it doesn’t mean this will be the case in the future. You cannot go from feeling like you losing the race to destroying the whole stadium all because you couldn’t win.

The only thing Dhulbahnte shared with Isaaq is culture. They were seen as one of us. That has changed Wallahi. I’ve noticed a frosty chill has started to take place between dhulbahnte and Isaaq on ground level. The cultural grounds are shifting and the old on ease of the 80’s have started nagging the Isaaq’s. There are no longer seen as us but outsiders like the Oromo. It’s a sort of betrayal. These people we forgave, that we shared everything with have today stabbed us in the back. Some of the stories coming out is one the Dhulbahnte friend/team member who plots to get the whole battalion killed. Scheming two faced people who u can’t ever trust. As Habar jeclo we have fought and friended the Dhulbahnte but there’s certain level respect we had with each other almost like a gentlemen’s agreement. We don’t drag their dead through the streets or kill

[Kees70]

Sxb it is called "emphasis." It is actually a reflection of how strongly I feel about a point and want to impart that along with the actual point. I can definitely see how it might annoy some lol.

As for what you said, in the mid 90's the single largest group of foot soldiers even under Caydiid and base of USC militia was Cayr.

Cayr Col Shabeel was the abaanduule of USC, Caydiid's Himmler---the reason many don't know him nationally is because it was even a direct #1 target of ours to dispose of him, not even Aideed wallahi, but him Shabeel and we did quickly even in the early part of war. We disposed of him in the most cruel way possible---the other side couldn't even receive his body or bury him. They don't even know where he was buried to this very day. Similarly that same Cayr were the primary foot soldiers in the attempt against Caabudwaaq and Balanbale (exactly similarly to this Las Anod situation). They wanted to capture Balanbale first then Cabudwaq. We fought outside Balanbale town limits. Even women who could were allowed to carry. Feero Qumumux resulted from then which Cayr Jamstreet/many nicks on this forum once disclosed the amount of Cayr "orphans" Feero Qumumux created will continue a 1,000 year active hostilities against Marehan. [Google "Feero Qumumux" within this forum over the years; like this Las Anod situation in which THEY attacked US, it wasn't us attacking Guriceel or Hobyo].

The reason why I reference all of that...

...is we ended up signing end to activate combat with Cayr as a clan out of all USC group and we even infamously went into an fficial politico-security based military alliance with them in 1997 which came to be known as JVA (in order to transport military hardware/vehicles which had been facing Hawiye in C/waaq to use against Morgan iwho ended up backstabbing us in 1997 looking to be advantaged by the Ethiopians-Al Itihad-SNF firestorm in Gedo.)

Skywalker it is even you as Habar Jeclo that I would wager an arm and leg would be the first "Isaaq" community to reach peace with Dhullo after this conflict ends.

I predict you will even reach a new dispensation with them as the Isaaq to neighbor them as a bridge and link to everything Isaaq or west of them. Any Isaaq agreement or issue or proposition towards them and through them east to Somalia until God knows when will be deputized to you to make happen.

A Dhulbahante with agency and purpose east of you is a strength for you as Habar Jeclo even and Dhulbahante under compulsion and kept unfulfilled is a loss and weakness for you as Habar Jeclo.

Sxb "PROSPERITY" is not we keep things at 4 pieces of bread which I take by force 3.75/4 and throw 0.25/4 at you.

"PROSPERITY" is not "limiting."

"PROSPERITY" is a rising tide. It means I am making 4 pieces of bread and you are with agency to make the same. It means the land has 5, 6, 7,8 pieces of bread at which every increase the sum of what I am eating is greater than 3.75. You only gain.

Prosperity is "limitless."

Dhulbahante is your partner in prosperity that is why I firm believe this circumstance will not define your future.

This is just a moment of active hostilities.

Col & Nabad.

Nabad always replaces an occurrence of col.

Col baa kaa dhex guuxaysaa. Nabad will arrest it within you in the future.

That I am confident about.

Walahi oo bilahi you have an unhealthy obsession's with HGs, 24 Hours you keep mentioning HG religiously.

Get MENTAL help ASAP!

[Gubbet]

Sxb it is called "emphasis." It is actually a reflection of how strongly I feel about a point and want to impart that along with the actual point. I can definitely see how it might annoy some lol.

As for what you said, in the mid 90's the single largest group of foot soldiers even under Caydiid and base of USC militia was Cayr.

Cayr Col Shabeel was the abaanduule of USC, Caydiid's Himmler---the reason many don't know him nationally is because it was even a direct #1 target of ours to dispose of him, not even Aideed wallahi, but him Shabeel and we did quickly even in the early part of war. We disposed of him in the most cruel way possible---the other side couldn't even receive his body or bury him. They don't even know where he was buried to this very day. Similarly that same Cayr were the primary foot soldiers in the attempt against Caabudwaaq and Balanbale (exactly similarly to this Las Anod situation). They wanted to capture Balanbale first then Cabudwaq. We fought outside Balanbale town limits. Even women who could were allowed to carry. Feero Qumumux resulted from then which Cayr Jamstreet/many nicks on this forum once disclosed the amount of Cayr "orphans" Feero Qumumux created will continue a 1,000 year active hostilities against Marehan. [Google "Feero Qumumux" within this forum over the years; like this Las Anod situation in which THEY attacked US, it wasn't us attacking Guriceel or Hobyo].

The reason why I reference all of that...

...is we ended up signing end to activate combat with Cayr as a clan out of all USC group and we even infamously went into an fficial politico-security based military alliance with them in 1997 which came to be known as JVA (in order to transport military hardware/vehicles which had been facing Hawiye in C/waaq to use against Morgan iwho ended up backstabbing us in 1997 looking to be advantaged by the Ethiopians-Al Itihad-SNF firestorm in Gedo.)

Skywalker it is even you as Habar Jeclo that I would wager an arm and leg would be the first "Isaaq" community to reach peace with Dhullo after this conflict ends.

I predict you will even reach a new dispensation with them as the Isaaq to neighbor them as a bridge and link to everything Isaaq or west of them. Any Isaaq agreement or issue or proposition towards them and through them east to Somalia until God knows when will be deputized to you to make happen.

A Dhulbahante with agency and purpose east of you is a strength for you as Habar Jeclo even and Dhulbahante under compulsion and kept unfulfilled is a loss and weakness for you as Habar Jeclo.

Sxb "PROSPERITY" is not we keep things at 4 pieces of bread which I take by force 3.75/4 and throw 0.25/4 at you.

"PROSPERITY" is not "limiting."

"PROSPERITY" is a rising tide. It means I am making 4 pieces of bread and you are with agency to make the same. It means the land has 5, 6, 7,8 pieces of bread at which every increase the sum of what I am eating is greater than 3.75. You only gain.

Prosperity is "limitless."

Dhulbahante is your partner in prosperity that is why I firm believe this circumstance will not define your future.

This is just a moment of active hostilities.

Col & Nabad.

Nabad always replaces an occurrence of col.

Col baa kaa dhex guuxaysaa. Nabad will arrest it within you in the future.

That I am confident about.

Sxb we’ve done all that we could for a dhulbahnte but they’re not bright people. They don’t know who’s enemy and who’s friend who has their best interest and who doesn’t. We did not actively seek to settle any scores with them as your neighbours did with you. We encouraged and supported them to take part in what is infact a race. You people speak of this cake as some socialist project ready to be shared equally. The truth is it’s a race and everybody is losing in the east. But it doesn’t mean this will be the case in the future. You cannot go from feeling like you losing the race to destroying the whole stadium all because you couldn’t win.

The only thing Dhulbahnte shared with Isaaq is culture. They were seen as one of us. That has changed Wallahi. I’ve noticed a frosty chill has started to take place between dhulbahnte and Isaaq on ground level. The cultural grounds are shifting and the old on ease of the 80’s have started nagging the Isaaq’s. There are no longer seen as us but outsiders like the Oromo. It’s a sort of betrayal. These people we forgave, that we shared everything with have today stabbed us in the back. Some of the stories coming out is one the Dhulbahnte friend/team member who plots to get the whole battalion killed. Scheming two faced people who u can’t ever trust. As Habar jeclo we have fought and friended the Dhulbahnte but there’s certain level respect we had with each other almost like a gentlemen’s agreement. We don’t drag their dead through the streets or kill

Niyahow Gar Naqsi is something so serious I absolutely cannot and should not be allowed to speak for Dhullo. This is something that requires a Dhullo engagement.

What I will say is wallahi as God is my witness, I hold 0 malice, even any negative "feeling" towards Isaaq even as I write my support for Dhulbahante overcoming to preservere in this conflict IN Las Anod.

The worst possible conflict to observe is one where the strength of one's support for one side overcoming to persevere in it is as strong as one's sympathies for the other side in their implication in the conflict.

Wa arrin run ahaantii cajiib ah. I don't think I have ever observed such a "cajiib"moment as this in Somali politics apart from the moment the TFG in Mogadishu moment turned into "Ethiopia vs [primarily] Cayr".

Even the people who were most pro-TFG whether they supported Abdullahi Yusuf or wanted a government to set roots or were against the ICU and wanted them defeated---virtually all understand the moment had become "heavy" when it optically turned into "Ethio tanks vs Cayr/Somali clan."

Even Abdullahi Yusuf shut his mouth. He knew this was a godob moment.

Geedi was the single exception and to this day an entire clan cannot bear to look at him.

Whatever you have intended from the Somaliland side, the moment has turned into this.

It is the heaviness of the moment that must cause Muuse to deescalate and even stop.

It is the opposite of everything meant by why he would even continue in it.

Stop.

Stop.

Stop. Disengage.

Whatever happens afterwards will happen but you must accept you no longer have influence to compel it.

Stop now so where you have to walk from is not even longer and further than where you are now.